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Posted: 7/20/2016 9:16:08 AM EDT
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Comments are mixed. They start really stupid but (some) sanity shows through.
She's an ass. Once again doing business by the exact laws they made in the first place is now considered a "loop hole". FMH and her "directives". |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 9:35:56 AM EDT
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I contacted GOAL and Comm2a. Waiting to see what they say.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 9:44:57 AM EDT
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Sickening to try to read that article. Good luck guys.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:02:55 AM EDT
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The ball is in your court. What the fuck are you gonna do about it?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:44:14 AM EDT
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Comm2A is on it.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:45:20 AM EDT
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The ball is in your court. What the fuck are you gonna do about it? MA gun groups have been doing a great deal fighting the good fight here. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:19:06 AM EDT
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MA gun groups have been doing a great deal fighting the good fight here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The ball is in your court. What the fuck are you gonna do about it? MA gun groups have been doing a great deal fighting the good fight here. Goodluck and godspeed. I'd like to see this bitch tossed out of office. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:19:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:21:56 AM EDT
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the "evil features" are how YOU described what an assault weapon, bitch.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:22:13 AM EDT
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Thanks, now I'm more pissed than I was an hour ago. Hope everything gets stopped or we just say fuck it and refuse it.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:29:15 AM EDT
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Thanks, now I'm more pissed than I was an hour ago. Hope everything gets stopped or we just say fuck it and refuse it. good luck there. You can't buy new guns or lowers now. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:30:24 AM EDT
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cop says AG could have "just conducted inspections"
he means house to house I'll bet |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:33:05 AM EDT
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cop also just said he bought a firearm recently at gun shop and was NICS delayed and he was ok with it. The fucking chief was NICS delayed.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:40:12 AM EDT
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"The cost of Allowing civillians to acquire weapons of war is high"
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:46:38 AM EDT
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oh, they get their info from "the database that tracks sales in this state"
no shit. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 12:37:36 PM EDT
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fuck it
build 80's |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 1:21:22 PM EDT
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Fuggin Ma. Mf'ers
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Posted: 7/20/2016 1:32:52 PM EDT
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Sadly nothing is probably going to stop this. Nobody can or will stop the AG, it's an independent constitutional office and no other officer (Governor) can infringe on her activity legally. The legislature was requested to curtail the AG's C. 93A authority wrt guns back in 1998 and refused to do so legislatively back then. They won't do it now either as it would look like they are in favor of cop-killings, otherwise known as political suicide. I support and donate to Comm2A each month, but the cases have been lost with ridiculous rulings for a few years now. They gave the AG free rein in a recent case and this is the result. They won't stop her now either. Hopefully Comm2A will sue, but it will take years and I'm certain with the court make-up we will lose. NOTE: Not the way I want it to go, but I'm a realist not an idealist. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 1:51:36 PM EDT
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Not from MA, but this seems ridiculous to me.. Just donated $50.00 to Comm2A to help fight the fight.
Good luck guys. If it gets too bad, we have a good bit of room left in Georgia. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 2:16:26 PM EDT
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good luck there. You can't buy new guns or lowers now legally Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks, now I'm more pissed than I was an hour ago. Hope everything gets stopped or we just say fuck it and refuse it. good luck there. You can't buy new guns or lowers now legally FIFY. The black market just got bigger i am sure. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 2:23:38 PM EDT
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Not from MA, but this seems ridiculous to me.. Just donated $50.00 to Comm2A to help fight the fight. Good luck guys. If it gets too bad, we have a good bit of room left in Georgia. 
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Posted: 7/20/2016 2:30:53 PM EDT
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cop also just said he bought a firearm recently at gun shop and was NICS delayed and he was ok with it. The fucking chief was NICS delayed. Not the place for that. Edited by djsmiles |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 2:49:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2016 3:23:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHow much for a basement couch and a little heat?  
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Posted: 7/20/2016 3:48:53 PM EDT
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Quote History No kidding! I told my Wife that we will have a discussion about this when she gets home tonight! I put a copy of the AG's letter and "advisory" with today's Mail for her to read. I can't wait to escape North. Her office moves at the end of the month expanding her commute to minimum (if the T runs on time . . . hahaha!) to 3 hours/day and I want her to either retire or work from home (but move to NH!!!!). |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 3:50:45 PM EDT
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From GOAL:
Without any prior notice or public hearings and while the legislature is on break for national conventions the Massachusetts Attorney General, Maura Healey, has issued an "Enforcement Notice" to firearm retailers throughout the Commonwealth of Massachusetts changing the longstanding definition of so-called "Assault Weapons".
For nearly 18 years since the passage of the 1998 Gun Control Act firearm retailers, gun owners and state agencies have been operating under the same interpretation. Now, suddenly, without warning or any due process a single person with a clear political agenda decides to change the rules. All Massachusetts residents should be alarmed! GOAL is currently trying to decipher the enforcement letter, but with as much information that it contains, it is not very clear what it means. Statements such as the following make it very convoluted: "... a weapon is a Copy or Duplicate, for example, if the operating system and firing mechanism of the weapon are based on or otherwise substantially similar to one of the Enumerated Weapons." Virtually every semi-automatic that utilizes a detachable magazine has the same operating system or firing mechanism, so what does this mean? The short answer is we simply don't know. Our best advice to firearm retailers for now is to err on the side of caution. These new rules may cover a lot more than just what we might think. GOAL is working with people and groups around the State and the nation to clarify these new interpretations and decide the best course of action. One thing is certain that this new interpretation is purely a political stunt and has nothing to do with public safety or real law. Jim Wallace Executive Director |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 4:39:17 PM EDT
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edited out stupidity. ~djsmiles Quote HistoryQuoted:
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cop also just said he bought a firearm recently at gun shop and was NICS delayed and he was ok with it. The fucking chief was NICS delayed. edited out stupidity. ~djsmiles That's an idiotic statement, based on no facts whatsoever. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 4:57:18 PM EDT
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That's an idiotic statement, based on no facts whatsoever. Agreed. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 5:12:30 PM EDT
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What the fuck just happened ???
Got an email from MFS and was beside my self. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 5:37:46 PM EDT
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Essentially a ban on ALL semiautos, rifle and pistol alike. I thought this bitch has been too quiet since elected.
Need clarification on currently owned/ not FA-10'd lowers. This is too broad and lacks any clear thought process. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 6:23:28 PM EDT
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Essentially a ban on ALL semiautos, rifle and pistol alike. I thought this bitch has been too quiet since elected. Need clarification on currently owned/ not FA-10'd lowers. This is too broad and lacks any clear thought process. I didn't read that pistols would be in on this so called "directive" but maybe I missed something. Im sure its the next step for her anyway
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Posted: 7/20/2016 6:43:48 PM EDT
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She didn't even let you lube up first, she just force fucked every gun owner in MA.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 7:00:32 PM EDT
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Good luck up there, guys.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:17:18 PM EDT
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Hopefully she gets a legal ovary stomping.
Good luck fellas. Liberty will die with thunderous applause |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:26:08 PM EDT
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I was seriously thinking about buying a house in Seekonk. I knew i would have to neuter my rifles and buy low cap magazines. Now I refuse to step foot in MA.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:39:59 PM EDT
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Everyone who owns an evil rifle should become a policeman... the you can keep your rifles. Good luck, guys... ive been following this too.. I cant imagine what I would do with my extensive collection. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 9:33:36 PM EDT
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I don't mean to poop all over Massachusetts gun owners, but why is this thread only 2 pages? Are there only 20 gun owners in your state?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:00:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:01:12 PM EDT
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I don't mean to poop all over Massachusetts gun owners, but why is this thread only 2 pages? Are there only 20 gun owners in your state? Most MA gun owners go to Northeast Shooters. MA HTF has never seen much traffic. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:11:15 PM EDT
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I don't mean to poop all over Massachusetts gun owners, but why is this thread only 2 pages? Are there only 20 gun owners in your state? It's 200+ pages here https://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/313955-Healy-quot-closing-the-loophole-quot-letter-to-gun-dealers |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:29:04 PM EDT
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This is BS. Hope you guys in MA can get this stopped.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 6:36:05 AM EDT
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I don't mean to poop all over Massachusetts gun owners, but why is this thread only 2 pages? Are there only 20 gun owners in your state? It's 200+ pages here https://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/313955-Healy-quot-closing-the-loophole-quot-letter-to-gun-dealers
I made donations to GOAL and Comm2a and probably will be to NRA-ILA today also. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 11:06:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2016 11:10:30 AM EDT
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Email I just got from the NRA-ILA:
Yesterday, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey announced that she wants to further restrict the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Massachusetts citizens by arbitrarily changing the way her office enforces the state’s existing “assault weapons” ban. Massachusetts state law currently prohibits the possession of “assault weapons” and large capacity feeding devices (defined as devices capable of holding certain amounts of ammunition) and “copies or duplicates of the weapons.” This law mirrors the federal “assault weapons” ban that expired in 2004.
Attorney General Healey claims that gun manufacturers across the state have been selling firearms to citizens that they claim are compliant with the law, but that she says would be considered “copies or duplicates” of the “assault weapons” prohibited for possession under Massachusetts law. By doing so, Attorney General Healey has over stepped her boundaries as Attorney General and created a new definition outside of the statute that currently regulates so-called “assault weapons” in Massachusetts. This new definition could lead to a total ban of all semi-automatic firearms in the state. Your NRA-ILA will be working tirelessly to protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners in Massachusetts by looking into the legal options available to fight this egregious attack. Please stay tuned to your email inbox and www.nraila.org for further updates on this issue. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 12:16:10 PM EDT
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Not only is it an overstepping of her authority by adding definitions on what is a copy, her additions contradict the rest of the law.
It clearly says that if it is not semi automatic and operated by bolt, pump, slide, ect, it is not an AW yet her added definition contradicts that by saying if it shares common parts with a banned weapon it is an AW. provided, however, that the term assault weapon shall not include: (i) any of the weapons, or replicas or duplicates of such weapons, specified in appendix A to 18 U.S.C. section 922 as appearing in such appendix on September 13, 1994, as such weapons were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (ii) any weapon that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (iii) any weapon that has been rendered permanently inoperable or otherwise rendered permanently unable to be designated a semiautomatic assault weapon; (iv) any weapon that was manufactured prior to the year 1899; (v) any weapon that is an antique or relic, theatrical prop or other weapon that is not capable of firing a projectile and which is not intended for use as a functional weapon and cannot be readily modified through a combination of available parts into an operable assault weapon; (vi) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; or (vii) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 1:18:46 PM EDT
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Greetings from PA, Just wanted to wish you all the best fighting this tyrant AG. I hit your petition, will send some $ to the orgs and wanted you remember our thoughts are with you. We ALL must stand together as supporters of the 2A, regardless of address. Hang in there and fight the good fight! Regards, Jim |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 1:48:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2016 2:11:25 PM EDT
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My wife and I will be at Saturday's rally.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 4:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThats more like it. But keep in mind guys, simple rallies will do nothing, you need to disrupt government operations while exercising you 1st amendment rights to PEACEFULLY assemble. We got screwed in NY in 2013, and all the rallies, letters to elected officials, lawsuits, etc did NOTHING! We are still stuck with this law. When the "AW" registration deadline came there was only about 2.5% compliance, which is great, but we are still screwed. The only real way to change stuff like this would be through actually rebellion. Good luck from your neighbors in NY! |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 6:19:17 PM EDT
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There is room for you all in AZ.
If your roots are not too deep, come visit the AZHTF and ask the pertinent questions. Can you all still get preban mags still? Next SAR Show isn't until December, I think some of you should visit and get what you can while you still can. |
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