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Posted: 4/13/2015 3:22:38 PM EDT
Latest fear mongering email: Dreadful Anti-Gun Additions to Omnibus Gun Bill - Help Us Stop It!
As a result, the new omnibus bill that many gun owners supported in the past is now almost unrecognizable.
That’s because the new bill includes provisions like: A new clause that will allow anyone, even convicted felons, to submit YOUR name to the DPS or your sheriff and demand to know whether or not you have a permit to purchase or carry a firearm! Imagine a dangerous predator who is stalking your daughter as he decides whether or not to attack and rape her – if this bill passes he’ll know that he faces an unarmed victim, making him that much more likely to attack! Or imagine what a criminal gang could do, armed with this information, as they decide which houses in a neighborhood to break into. View Quote Uhh... they conveniently left out the fact that the situation now is far worse. People can get your address RIGHT NOW. The bill would change that to where if you know a person's name and one of three other things (address, phone number, date of birth) you can get a simple yes/no answer from either the sheriff or DPS on whether that person has a permit. No identifying info, and you have to leave YOUR identifying info which can then be relayed to the person you got info on. I don't like this very much, and I wish we didn't have to compromise to save the rest of the stuff in the bill, but that situation is MUCH, MUCH better than what we have right now, which is nothing. A searchable statewide database of firearms and firearms owners!
Current Iowa code only allows the Commissioner of Public Safety to have access to the list of CCW holders here in Iowa. This language, slipped in to placate the radically anti-gun Iowa State Sheriffs’ and Deputies’ Association, will create a massive new digitized list of gun owners in Iowa! View Quote Uh, first of all there are no CCW holders in Iowa. Semantics aside, the second sentence is a lie. Anyone, ANYONE, you, me, a Locust Street Liar "journalist", anybody, can make a request under the Iowa Open Records Act to any county sheriff, and get all information about all permits issued in that county. It's all public record. Second of all, it's been in the bill since the beginning. Either Aaron Dorr just discovered it, or he's lying. The proposed database would be for law enforcement purposes and I believe this is a good thing. Right now, if a LEO wants to verify your permit, he has to make a call to the county that issued it (unofficial ad-hoc databases aside.) If you're travelling out of state, good luck explaining that. Not only would this provide more peace of mind for travelling out of state, but it could increase the reciprocity Iowa enjoys with other states, some of which require this very thing in order for a permit to be recognized. This is a good thing! Worse still, this list can be accessed by employers in certain situations. View Quote Uh, yeah, no. There is a provision in the bill that allows employers to verify that an employee has a PROFESSIONAL permit to carry. If I'm an armed security firm, being able to verify that my employee's permit didn't get pulled after a weekend bender would be pretty nice. Almost everybody in Iowa that has a permit has a Non-Professional permit, so that provision nothing to worry about because it simply doesn't apply. If you do have a professional PCW, and you're worried about your employer knowing... you must be a special kind of stupid. Like, Aaron Dorr level. |
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It is unfortunate that stupid and lies like these are not illegal.
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That is impressive.
I am already banned from their facebook page, someone else will have to heckle them for me. |
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Fantastic write up pointing out the faults in this like if garbage Spart. Rather than commenting on their Facebook page and having your comments deleted I encourage you guys to raise these points in the various gun Buy/Sell/Trade groups on Facebook. They cannot delete those comments and many of their followers also frequent those groups. A great way to educate our fellow firearms owners about their shenanigans in a way that cannot be censored by Dorr & Co.
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The IGO push right now is making me sick.
These idiots want to kill the bill simply because they have gotten no movement on the bills they have supported. They are really pushing the one thing they know and that is fear and donation fishing. So they are playing up the state wide database and the fact that felons could go in and get the data. Well felons can do it now. I am trying to learn more about this. I will go out of my way to do everything in my power to deface IGO if they are successful in this. I generally don't interact with the people who work the IGO booths and what not but I would literally go to shows to stand and front of the booth and debunk everything they said. |
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Fantastic write up pointing out the faults in this like if garbage Spart. Rather than commenting on their Facebook page and having your comments deleted I encourage you guys to raise these points in the various gun Buy/Sell/Trade groups on Facebook. They cannot delete those comments and many of their followers also frequent those groups. A great way to educate our fellow firearms owners about their shenanigans in a way that cannot be censored by Dorr & Co. View Quote Been doing this since they blocked me. Boy, the IGO fanboys really come out and let ya know how much koolaid they been drinking. |
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My Senator appeared with Aaron in a video bashing the latest amendment, spreading lies. Not real happy. This better not swing too many.
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I saw it this morning and let it pass to avoid having a bad day mentally. One day they (he) are going to lie about the wrong thing or the wrong person, and something illegal is going to happen. I mean, aside from the whole Aaron Dorr election fraud, financial scandal, Sorenson going to jail thing.
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Been doing this since they blocked me. Boy, the IGO fanboys really come out and let ya know how much koolaid they been drinking. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fantastic write up pointing out the faults in this like if garbage Spart. Rather than commenting on their Facebook page and having your comments deleted I encourage you guys to raise these points in the various gun Buy/Sell/Trade groups on Facebook. They cannot delete those comments and many of their followers also frequent those groups. A great way to educate our fellow firearms owners about their shenanigans in a way that cannot be censored by Dorr & Co. Been doing this since they blocked me. Boy, the IGO fanboys really come out and let ya know how much koolaid they been drinking. The funny thing about this is most of the koolaid drinkers are friends with the Dorrs if you click their names and look at their friends list... |
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I saw it this morning and let it pass to avoid having a bad day mentally. One day they (he) are going to lie about the wrong thing or the wrong person, and something illegal is going to happen. I mean, aside from the whole Aaron Dorr election fraud, financial scandal, Sorenson going to jail thing. View Quote I'm a bit shocked that a RICO suite has not been brought by any of the Attorny Generals in the Midwest against these guys. But then, the Dorr's serve a purpose to the left in preventing good gun bills from passing and giving the Dem's cover. |
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I'm a bit shocked that a RICO suite has not been brought by any of the Attorny Generals in the Midwest against these guys. But then, the Dorr's serve a purpose to the left in preventing good gun bills from passing and giving the Dem's cover. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I saw it this morning and let it pass to avoid having a bad day mentally. One day they (he) are going to lie about the wrong thing or the wrong person, and something illegal is going to happen. I mean, aside from the whole Aaron Dorr election fraud, financial scandal, Sorenson going to jail thing. I'm a bit shocked that a RICO suite has not been brought by any of the Attorny Generals in the Midwest against these guys. But then, the Dorr's serve a purpose to the left in preventing good gun bills from passing and giving the Dem's cover. Lying isn't racketeering, so that would not apply. Corruption is legal (and a generally accepted and somewhat celebrated part of our political system) as long as no extortion, money laundering, loan sharking, obstruction of justice, or bribery are involved. |
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So sick of the nut jobs at IGO. Sent them an email with the facts, questioning their position. Doubt i hear back.
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I wish I could be inside the mind of Dorr while he tries to piece together some damage control. Iowa's gun groups on FB are on fire tonight, and it's all bad for IGO.
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He is only trying to control the message in his own little realm. We have known IGO was garbage for a while. Even at the beginning of the year I couldn't believe the number of people they had running booths for them at gun shows just raking in money. He will control the narrative on his facebook page ensuring that it shows a record of dozens of gun owners cheering on the hard work he is doing and he will continue to pump out fear mongering emails because the whole gimmick is about grabbing scared gun owners and squeezing pennies out of them while they remain ignorant.
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It's amazing how when the truth gets out there on outlets they can't control, it's virtually indefensible.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant! |
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It's amazing how when the truth gets out there on outlets they can't control, it's virtually indefensible. Sunlight is the best disinfectant! View Quote Yup. make sure you talk about how IGO is run by Aaron Dorr, and Aaron Dorr's involvement with the Sorenson federal election funding fraud and legislative ethics violations case. I read the trial exhibits, and Aaron Dorr's emails about taking money for election support are very clearly in there. The actual allocution and signed plea refer to "person A", "person B", but those match up very easily with the exhibits if you take an hour to read through them. |
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^^ almost all the comments on that post are already calling bull shit. Lol
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these guys are sickening...
you better spread the word all over the facebook gun groups, forums, etc. we're at risk of losing our legislation because of these guys and people are being swindled... this is bullshit |
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these guys are sickening... you better spread the word all over the facebook gun groups, forums, etc. we're at risk of losing our legislation because of these guys and people are being swindled... this is bullshit View Quote Agree, I cannot believe what Dorr is pedaling to make another buck of two. |
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Can you post a link to that in FB? I can't seem to find it.
I wish I would have realized how crooked this group was. Will not be renewing membership at all. |
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Can you post a link to that in FB? I can't seem to find it. I wish I would have realized how crooked this group was. Will not be renewing membership at all. View Quote The Truth About IGO There you go, also whomever did this, awesome. |
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Can you post a link to that in FB? I can't seem to find it. I wish I would have realized how crooked this group was. Will not be renewing membership at all. The Truth About IGO There you go, also whomever did this, awesome. EDIT: PAGE ADDRESS CHANGED SLIGHTLY: https://www.facebook.com/trueiowagunowners Everyone needs to go and "Invite" all of their even-moderately-interested friends to the facebook group/page. center left of the facebook page, hit "invite" for anyone you know that might care at all. Grassroots. |
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I expect to be banned from the IGO facebook page in a couple minutes. Seems to be his M.O. Someone doesn't drink the kool aid, they get banned.
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I expect to be banned from the IGO facebook page in a couple minutes. Seems to be his M.O. Someone doesn't drink the kool aid, they get banned. \ View Quote posted a firemission in GD. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1739413_.html&page=1&anc=53106068#i53106068 |
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I expect to be banned from the IGO facebook page in a couple minutes. Seems to be his M.O. Someone doesn't drink the kool aid, they get banned. \ posted a firemission in GD. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1739413_.html&page=1&anc=53106068#i53106068 thank you! |
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Guys, we need some positive comments on this article. Keep it respectful and factual.
http://www.ammoland.com/2015/04/new-lies-being-spread-about-iowas-omnibus-gun-bill |
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IGO's poster boy in the news again:
http://www.kcci.com/news/former-sen-kent-sorenson-in-trouble-with-law-again/34279510 |
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IGO's poster boy in the news again: http://www.kcci.com/news/former-sen-kent-sorenson-in-trouble-with-law-again/34279510 View Quote Let's not resort to ad-hominum attacks. plenty of other stuff IGO does that is horrible, and it sounds like there is a lot more (or less) to this specific story than is being reported. |
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