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Posted: 8/11/2003 9:46:46 AM EDT
From what I understand, an Indian gang operating near Queen Creek Road and Maricopa Road are boxing cars in, shooting a indow out and forcing the driver off the road for robbery.

One driver escaped in his SUV and fled to a gas station. He called 911 while his family hid. The gang continued to circle the area.

Not much more details on this. Anyone have anything else on this?
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 10:55:56 AM EDT
I drive that way about twice a month on my way the desert to go shooting. I would love the live fire practice. In all seriousness, I hope they catch these guys and make them do time. A few of my co workers live south of there near Maricopa.
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 11:00:20 AM EDT
I live up at Alma/Germann, I travel that route a few times a month when I head out to one of my friend's houses in Maricopa.

It would be an absolute shame if they tried that on us on our way back from a shooting trip.

It's not like we'd go out there in a Buick Le Sabre with blue hair wigs and jewelry visible to tempt them into trying it on us.
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 11:25:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tfod:
From what I understand, an Indian gang operating near Queen Creek Road and Maricopa Road are boxing cars in, shooting a indow out and forcing the driver off the road for robbery.

One driver escaped in his SUV and fled to a gas station. He called 911 while his family hid. The gang continued to circle the area.

Not much more details on this. Anyone have anything else on this?


Aren't they making enough off the Casinos they have out there? What gives with these guys? They're constantly getting busted for shoplifting at the Target (Queen Creek and Alma) as well...
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 2:49:55 PM EDT
You wouldnt belive the call volume that the PD's have out there. Its not like the stuff most of the city agencies get, very few BS whiners. More suicides, homocides, rape, robbery. Bad stuff, I have heard alot of war stories from the guys up on the Salt River. I have even thought about applying with their PD just to get into the shit! Its like a warzone man..
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 3:17:13 PM EDT
Sounds like it's time to call in the Chandler Militia, and get my money from the casino back!

Link Posted: 8/11/2003 3:21:51 PM EDT
Gee Whiz! You guys the big city have everything, don't you? I'm so jealous. NOT!
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 3:26:34 PM EDT


You mean these guys?

(sorry, I couldn't resist... I'll go back to Ohio)
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 3:32:11 PM EDT
I have heard a few reports about this.
Seems when it gets to hot, they haul ass back to the res. where jurisdiction keeps the local P.D.s and M.C.S.O. out.
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 8:33:39 PM EDT
If you get handed money, there's no incentive to work. If you don't work, then you don't value what you have. And if you're on a res and not working, there's not much else to do but hang out and that often leads to drinking. But not always.

On the other hand, if you're on a res and into the outdoors, 4 wheeling, SHOOTING, hiking, or riding horses, there's plenty to do!

If these guys are raising hell, then they'll get what's coming.
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 10:13:59 PM EDT
God, I hope the police find them before I do.
9mm? 45acp? I'll let you guys know how they both worked out.
No wonder the indians fought so hard against the white man in the old days. Their seers viewed the present and saw what the white man had done to their people. Turned them into drunken, drug addicted fat slobs who can't speak a lick of their native language, but can read off the ratio's to mix meth by heart.
It's sad, really. Killed with kindness.
-Steve
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 10:40:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/12/2003 12:55:38 AM EDT
I am trying to get some more info on this, and as soon as I do I'll post it. I guess stuff like this is farely common.

I haven't caught mention of this in the mainstream media yet.
Link Posted: 8/12/2003 10:12:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2003 10:13:27 AM EDT by Garryowen]
Link Posted: 8/12/2003 7:28:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Garryowen:
If they want to play "Cowboys & Indians" I'm more then happy to help them out... A belt-fed on top of the Humvee, we'll reintroduce these these screw heads to The CAV! It'll be "Wounded Knee" v2.0




IM THERE!
Link Posted: 8/15/2003 9:34:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2003 9:37:04 PM EDT by AZ-K9]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Hmm, I better get my non-resident permit before we get moved in down there. I can get one for Utah and AZ will honor it.

How about a ride-a-long?
id84.securedata.net/chandlerpd/cpd_site/forms/ride_along.htm



You dont need a permit to open carry knucklehead!

Guess which way I am going into Phx from now on? Bring it on!
Link Posted: 8/17/2003 8:02:09 PM EDT
Like Gary Said,

Lets Re-introduce them to the CAVALRY!!

ANYONE TRIES THIS SHIT WILL FIND OUT HOW FAST I CAN EMPTY A MAG AND SLAM HOME A FRESH ONE. I carry FMJs to make sure I can hit through a car door.
Link Posted: 8/17/2003 11:31:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By azcopwannabee:
ANYONE TRIES THIS SHIT WILL FIND OUT HOW FAST I CAN EMPTY A MAG AND SLAM HOME A FRESH ONE.



Can you actually hit anything? And do you carry enough mags to be able to that?


Originally Posted By azcopwannabee:
I carry FMJs to make sure I can hit through a car door.



Go ahead and carry JHPs, they're really not that much more expensive. And yes, they'll go thru car doors.

Link Posted: 8/17/2003 11:42:06 PM EDT
I nominate azcopwannbe to be our local Mall Ninja Native Gang Task Force Supreme Allied Commander in Chief.

So that would make him the M.N.N.G.T.F.S.A.C.C.

Now if your shooting through your car door, how much lead off do you need to get someone who is on horseback shooting arrows at you?

Link Posted: 8/18/2003 8:38:21 AM EDT
Native North Americans were a stone age civiliztion that hadn't yet made use of the wheel before the Spanish arrived.
Link Posted: 8/18/2003 7:47:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/19/2003 12:40:23 AM EDT
Yaaaaa-taaaaa-heeeyyyyyyy

They prolly smoked too much peyote after they ran out of Buttwiper and saw the fuckin bird in these cars. After of course they invented the new legend that the white devil has the peyote bird captive and they must free it at any costs to help the indian slim back down.

Why dont we just give the sanctimonious pig fuckers some more blankets to keep them busy.
Link Posted: 8/20/2003 5:41:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 3:35:00 PM EDT
The Navajo Nation (northern AZ, parts of UT, NM) has the highest instances of gang-related activity anywhere in the US. Couple that with the Census statistic that over 1/2 of the Navajo Indians are under the age of 18, and you begin to wonder if ALL history (Southwest included) will repeat itself. I am armed with my glock 17 and no less than 4 spare hi-caps, along with my ruger blackhawk .357 anytime I camp on/drive across/hike anywhere near the rez up here. You guys should see the way the Navajo drive through Flag in their new 3/4 Chevy's 4x4's. Complete disregard for every other vehicle on the road (leaving brights on ALL the time, tailgating, running reds and stop signs, etc., usually with a couple of kids in the back). Or perhaps the millions of empty Thunderbird and Tokay bottles along the rez highways. When I grew up in Chandler (Ray and Rural, when that was a dirt road intersection), it was common to have Gila Indians breaking into ranch buildings and houses.
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 5:28:07 PM EDT
... You are right Jeff_Davis_was_Right. As a young man, I spent my summers in Flagstaff (Kachina Village), we'd go into town and see Indians laying in the gutter in front of "66" bar and those other joints near Beaver Street passed out from drinking all day.
I had run ins with drunk Indians on a couple occasions there. Still, I love Flagstaff. I'm not as fond of it these days because it's been overrun by Californians and dirty hippies.

... In the 70's, did you ever think you'd see a traffic jam in Flag? Now it's an everyday experience.
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 6:37:16 PM EDT
Each day the new indictments are posted in the Clerk's office of Federal Court in Phoenix. 95% of them are Indian related. You can't believe the amount of crime that is taking place on the reservations and is being ignored by the media.
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 7:11:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2003 7:15:28 PM EDT by Desert_Nomad1]
I've seem plenty of drunk whites and other races lying around in my time. Just check out the freeway underpasses. Some even hold signs that say they're veterans or "will work for food."

Do you think the Cavalry would've been as effective if it wasn't for the skanky diseases Europeans and other immigrants brought with them? Just a thought.

You're right Winston_Wolf about the hippies and liberals in Flag. Ticks me off. They were some of the first to demonstrate against US retaliation after Sept. 11.

Link Posted: 8/24/2003 7:25:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2003 10:19:44 PM EDT by tfod]

Possibly The Army and Marines would have still been as effective. Didn't Cortez sack the Aztec Empire with a platoon sized element? I believe he just manipulated the tribes against each other, and then under Spanish rule.

Even if Europe couldn't hold the coastal colonies from day one, Jet fighters would be bombing the horseless Indians before they were forging steel blades.
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 7:30:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Desert_Nomad1:
Do you think the Cavalry would've been as effective if it wasn't for the skanky diseases Europeans and other immigrants brought with them? Just a thought.



Didn't need diseases. Just give them firewater.
Link Posted: 8/24/2003 7:49:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
Didn't need diseases. Just give them firewater.



I heard that.
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 12:23:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 12:44:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Garryowen:
If they want to play "Cowboys & Indians" I'm more then happy to help them out... A belt-fed on top of the Humvee, we'll reintroduce these these screw heads to The CAV! It'll be "Wounded Knee" v2.0



So you going to use a Minigun to kill women and children and let the wounded freeze to death? Thats the orignal Wounded Knee. Im disgusted and ashamed and voting with my wallet.
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 7:30:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/25/2003 7:33:18 AM EDT by tfod]
Hard to freeze to death out this way, they'd have to bleed for a long time first.

Link Posted: 8/25/2003 12:04:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
... You are right Jeff_Davis_was_Right. As a young man, I spent my summers in Flagstaff (Kachina Village), we'd go into town and see Indians laying in the gutter in front of "66" bar and those other joints near Beaver Street passed out from drinking all day.
I had run ins with drunk Indians on a couple occasions there. Still, I love Flagstaff. I'm not as fond of it these days because it's been overrun by Californians and dirty hippies.

... In the 70's, did you ever think you'd see a traffic jam in Flag? Now it's an everyday experience.



There is no shortage of dreadlocked "trustfund-afarians" running around here barefoot driving brand new Pathfinders and creating a leftist extremist movement against Bush (not that I am a fan of any American president with the exception of Grover Cleveland since 1865). Perhaps some people may tag me in the same bunch, due to my anti statist paleo-conservative nature... Perhaps because I wear flip-flops and ride my beach cruiser Scwinn around much faster than traffic on old US66, that I am a leftist biker-nazi. But they don't see that airweight .357 tucked away, with a couple of speed loaders to boot. Gotta keep them guessing, always, right? Back to the point (whew), there are plenty of pieces of shit drunk/high/crazy in all different colors around here, but the most unpredictable are definitely the natives.
Link Posted: 8/25/2003 3:13:39 PM EDT
You guys want drunken Indian stories? Just hang around the Casino bars when the per-capita checks come in every quarter. Welfare is such a great thing.

Just remember they aren't sovern, THEY ARE CONQUERED. Most of them that would really put up a fight have already been killed off.
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