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Posted: 6/13/2011 8:16:49 PM EDT
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Get ready to get locked for posting on the wrong forum.
Read the Forum Rules http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=8&f=23 |
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Posted: 6/14/2011 3:28:27 AM EDT
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Yes, I have heard of this. The last lower I bought was for a pistol though and it was a complete lower.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 7:28:06 AM EDT
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I buy online, and my FFL starts the clock as soon as I submit the order- so when it arrives, I'm good to go to pick it up.
 Considering I pay $70 for a stripped lower shipped, and $20 for the transfer, I find it hard to buy a stripped lower from a normal shop for $130+ anymore |
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Posted: 6/14/2011 7:38:48 AM EDT
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My understanding is that the transfer of a stripped lower is neither done as a pistol or a rifle, it is done as "other". All "others" fall under the 3-day wait in Illinois.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 3:47:08 PM EDT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ winner.
An "other" is neither pistol or rifle. As such, it is treated like a pistol, even though its not (as in you can't build a pistol out of it) The question is, if it had a stock screwed on it, is it then a rifle? |
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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:34:35 PM EDT
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locked? for posting an AR question under "AR Discussion"?
Never even looked at the hometown thingy, didn't know what it was. Funny, been here 10/11 years (formerly as RogerN- couldn't figure out how to transition when Insight became Comcast, so just started over) and never payed much attention, I guess. |
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Posted: 6/15/2011 3:17:09 AM EDT
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Technically, this thread is about matters particular to Illinois hence it was moved to this forum. There was never a reason to lock it other than to move it.
locked? for posting an AR question under "AR Discussion"? Never even looked at the hometown thingy, didn't know what it was. Funny, been here 10/11 years (formerly as RogerN- couldn't figure out how to transition when
Have fun, explore the site. There are tons of cool sub-forums here that cover a range of interests. ;)
Insight became Comcast, so just started over) and never payed much attention, I guess. |
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Posted: 6/15/2011 3:19:13 AM EDT
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That part in red - that's incorrect. A lower receiver can be built into a pistol as longer as it was never built into a rifle. The inverse is not true. If the lower receiver was ever built into a rifle, it cannot be built into a pistol.
An "other" is neither pistol or rifle. As such, it is treated like a pistol, even though its not (as in you can't build a pistol out of it) The question is, if it had a stock screwed on it, is it then a rifle? Yes.
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Posted: 6/15/2011 12:57:31 PM EDT
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If we demand repeal of Illinois' ridiculous gun control laws we won't have to worry about this any more.
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Posted: 6/15/2011 3:12:44 PM EDT
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my fully assembled lower picked up locally required a 24 hr wait, but as I understand it a stripped lower takes 3 days. so, something I can immediately slap on to an upper of some sort is "less dangerous" than something with no parts in it that has to be assembled?
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:26:02 AM EDT
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Why do hot dogs come in packages of 10 and most buns in packages of 8?
Because. IT doesnt make a lot of sense but some gun laws are there with no logic behind them and law abiding people have to follow them. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 12:19:04 PM EDT
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IT doesnt make a lot of sense but some gun laws are there with no logic behind them and law abiding people have to follow them. It does, but only if you're used to bureaucratic BS. The exemption from the 72 waiting period was only defined for longarms - that is, weapons intended to be fired from the shoulder, as opposed to handguns. While a stripped lower is not a handgun, neither is it a longarm, so it defaults to the more stringent restriction. What I love is how the media and the antis always refer to the waiting period as a "cool down" period, yet I've never found any actual statistics that showed any specific numbers of homicides were committed by folks who got so angry they went out and purchased a weapon just for that purpose. |
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Posted: 6/21/2011 7:10:13 AM EDT
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The exemption from the 72 waiting period was only defined for longarms - that is, weapons intended to be fired from the shoulder, as opposed to handguns.
While a stripped lower is not a handgun, neither is it a longarm, so it defaults to the more stringent restriction. This is what my dealer told me when I got a couple of lowers two weeks ago. One was complete with a stock and the other stripped. He said as long as an upper with a barrel was not on it, it was not a rifle, then it was treated like it was a pistol and I had to wait 3 days. |
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Posted: 6/21/2011 9:45:40 AM EDT
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IT doesnt make a lot of sense but some gun laws are there with no logic behind them and law abiding people have to follow them. It does, but only if you're used to bureaucratic BS. The exemption from the 72 waiting period was only defined for longarms - that is, weapons intended to be fired from the shoulder, as opposed to handguns. While a stripped lower is not a handgun, neither is it a longarm, so it defaults to the more stringent restriction. What I love is how the media and the antis always refer to the waiting period as a "cool down" period, yet I've never found any actual statistics that showed any specific numbers of homicides were committed by folks who got so angry they went out and purchased a weapon just for that purpose. And the "cool down" period logic, of course, makes no sense whatsoever when you're talking about a stripped lower. I figure you'd have sufficient time to cool down while you're building the thing. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:57:28 PM EDT
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[/span] This is what my dealer told me when I got a couple of lowers two weeks ago. One was complete with a stock and the other stripped. He said as long as an upper with a barrel was not on it, it was not a rifle, then it was treated like it was a pistol and I had to wait 3 days. I suppose he's just being extra cautious, but IMHO he's full of  .
The definition of "rfile" and "shotgun" include references about being "fired from the shoulder", including SBS's and SBR's. Slap a buffer tube with a threaded point of attachment for a stock and presto - by magical government [span style='font-style: italic;']fiat [/span]it's a longarm, regardless of barrel length. Unthreaded stubby tube? Presto, it's a pistol, even if you mounted a custom 22" barrel on it. No tube? Presto - it's "neither" and thus not eligible for the "rifle or shotgun" designation and thus subject to 72 hours of waiting. |
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