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Posted: 7/18/2010 6:50:21 PM EDT
Some of you saw my post asking about "Revaluation"  http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=9&t=417102
Well in yesterdays mail came our tax bill for 2010 (strange it arrives now as was due and paid Feb. 1, 2010)
About five years after we bought the house it was changed from $32,000 to $48,000 which is what we paid for it (OK fair enough) and four years ago when we added on the cost of the addition was added on, another $42,000.
Here's what was shown on the statement:
Assessors Estimates The Full Market Value of This Property at: $116,667
Uniform Percentage of Value Used to Establish Assessment is:  60%
Assessed Value of This Property Is: $70.000


Now the way I  understand it (according to the letter from the Town) "...the Board has voted to revalue Town properties to 100% of the market value..." instead of the 60% that it's been.
None of the houses on my street or the next one over have sold for over 100K
The one next door went for $93K and it's the same size with a larger lot.
There are a few new houses nearby with some of them over 200K but they are not inside the Village limits.

This is fucking bullshit!
I will be running for or at least attempting to run some of these guy out of Office....it's been the same un-opposed clique for the last two decades and it's time for a change. I've lived in, and been an active, tax paying part of this Community for over 18 years.

I need to start learning everything I can about the Town/Village/School Board, their budgets, and laws/by-laws, plus whatever else my peers here can suggest.
The Town has experienced some growth in housing and businesses, not a huge amount but we're not going backwards.

What say you?
Link Posted: 7/18/2010 9:16:49 PM EDT
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What say you?


Wellll, the last time something like this happened to a friend of mine, after he saw his new MUCH HIGHER tax bill, he tore down his flag pole, sold his beautiful lake-front home that he built himself, and moved to a free(r) state.



Link Posted: 7/18/2010 9:26:22 PM EDT
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What say you?


Wellll, the last time something like this happened to a friend of mine, after he saw his new MUCH HIGHER tax bill, he tore down his flag pole, sold his beautiful lake-front home that he built himself, and moved to a free(r) state.





He's reported to be a very happy man.  
Four more years then I'm headed South, and I don't mean PA either.
Link Posted: 7/19/2010 1:09:35 AM EDT
[#3]



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What say you?




Wellll, the last time something like this happened to a friend of mine, after he saw his new MUCH HIGHER tax bill, he tore down his flag pole, sold his beautiful lake-front home that he built himself, and moved to a free(r) state.




He's reported to be a very happy man.  

Four more years then I'm headed South, and I don't mean PA either.


Good luck with the summer weather, sir.



 
Link Posted: 7/19/2010 2:33:20 AM EDT
[#4]
You want insane property taxes... join us here in friendly ol' nassau.  My taxes are almost as much as your assessment!
Link Posted: 7/19/2010 6:55:48 AM EDT
[#5]
"Market Value" is just that.  If the value in today's market, based on a formal appraisal says your house is worth 90k, then take that info and grieve your assessment.  

It sounds like your property was already over assessed at the 116k, but an appraisal is what you'll need to back it up.  You shouldn't have to wait for the new percentage to kick in on the next bill, but you may have to wait until they have an open "grievance" period before you can get it changed.  Find out what that process is, and get your "proof" in order.

Good Luck fp...
Link Posted: 7/19/2010 2:04:05 PM EDT
[#6]
My experience has been that if you think you're going to make their lives miserable think again.



Just in my go rounds with Riverhead regarding open permits that we had to pay to reopen when we were in the right, they'll make you miserable. People line up out the door to complain, file grievances, rail at a supervisor, threaten lawsuits and lay down citizen fire and brimstone to no avail.



It doesn't work.

You can lay out the $$ for an attorney, file this, that, come up with your own estimates, expert witnesses, and you'll still lose.



Good luck.
Link Posted: 7/19/2010 2:32:41 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Some of you saw my post asking about "Revaluation"  http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=9&t=417102
Well in yesterdays mail came our tax bill for 2010 (strange it arrives now as was due and paid Feb. 1, 2010)
About five years after we bought the house it was changed from $32,000 to $48,000 which is what we paid for it (OK fair enough) and four years ago when we added on the cost of the addition was added on, another $42,000.
Here's what was shown on the statement:
Assessors Estimates The Full Market Value of This Property at: $116,667
Uniform Percentage of Value Used to Establish Assessment is:  60%
Assessed Value of This Property Is: $70.000


Now the way I  understand it (according to the letter from the Town) "...the Board has voted to revalue Town properties to 100% of the market value..." instead of the 60% that it's been.
None of the houses on my street or the next one over have sold for over 100K
The one next door went for $93K and it's the same size with a larger lot.
There are a few new houses nearby with some of them over 200K but they are not inside the Village limits.

This is fucking bullshit!
I will be running for or at least attempting to run some of these guy out of Office....it's been the same un-opposed clique for the last two decades and it's time for a change. I've lived in, and been an active, tax paying part of this Community for over 18 years.

I need to start learning everything I can about the Town/Village/School Board, their budgets, and laws/by-laws, plus whatever else my peers here can suggest.
The Town has experienced some growth in housing and businesses, not a huge amount but we're not going backwards.

What say you?



PM inbound about appraisals
Link Posted: 7/19/2010 5:41:14 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
My experience has been that if you think you're going to make their lives miserable think again.

Just in my go rounds with Riverhead regarding open permits that we had to pay to reopen when we were in the right, they'll make you miserable. People line up out the door to complain, file grievances, rail at a supervisor, threaten lawsuits and lay down citizen fire and brimstone to no avail.

It doesn't work.
You can lay out the $$ for an attorney, file this, that, come up with your own estimates, expert witnesses, and you'll still lose.

Good luck.


You might well be right, but unless people step up to the plate there's no chance of scoring....Look at what we've done to change firearms laws and the bureaucrats that twist them.

Link Posted: 7/19/2010 8:19:58 PM EDT
[#9]





Quoted:





Quoted:


My experience has been that if you think you're going to make their lives miserable think again.





Just in my go rounds with Riverhead regarding open permits that we had to pay to reopen when we were in the right, they'll make you miserable. People line up out the door to complain, file grievances, rail at a supervisor, threaten lawsuits and lay down citizen fire and brimstone to no avail.





It doesn't work.


You can lay out the $$ for an attorney, file this, that, come up with your own estimates, expert witnesses, and you'll still lose.





Good luck.






You might well be right, but unless people step up to the plate there's no chance of scoring....Look at what we've done to change firearms laws and the bureaucrats that twist them.








I agree, but the People need to perceive a problem. In the Town of Oyster Bay you can't take a tree down on your own property without a permit and that permit is only granted upon inspection. If the tree is dead there's no charge. If the tree is alive and you just want it down as it blocks your view of the neighbor's hot, undressing daughter then you pay. You can't knock down a crappy shed without a demolition permit, fee and inspection. Everyone pays and shakes their head.





 
Link Posted: 7/20/2010 12:57:47 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
My experience has been that if you think you're going to make their lives miserable think again.

Just in my go rounds with Riverhead regarding open permits that we had to pay to reopen when we were in the right, they'll make you miserable. People line up out the door to complain, file grievances, rail at a supervisor, threaten lawsuits and lay down citizen fire and brimstone to no avail.

It doesn't work.
You can lay out the $$ for an attorney, file this, that, come up with your own estimates, expert witnesses, and you'll still lose.

Good luck.


You might well be right, but unless people step up to the plate there's no chance of scoring....Look at what we've done to change firearms laws and the bureaucrats that twist them.


I agree, but the People need to perceive a problem. In the Town of Oyster Bay you can't take a tree down on your own property without a permit and that permit is only granted upon inspection. If the tree is dead there's no charge. If the tree is alive and you just want it down as it blocks your view of the neighbor's hot, undressing daughter then you pay. You can't knock down a crappy shed without a demolition permit, fee and inspection. Everyone pays and shakes their head.
 


I don't think you can get anybody would buy a Permit in the Town if Adams for anything other than a Building Permit, and that would be for something large like an addition to your house or building a new one.  
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