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Posted: 9/16/2016 8:53:39 AM EDT
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It looks like Amendment 1 creates a whole nother state level agency and is a power grab from local school boards....might be needed in some areas
Amendment 2, as I read it, is a sneaky, underhanded way for them to tax the crap out of nudie bars, it has littlte to do with children or preventing their exploitation "For the children, is the rally cry of tyrants" #3, I am not sure. I see it as a power grab by elected officials....but one that might be needed. Anyone have more insight? #4 Whatever, the money is going to be spent on something. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 8:56:55 AM EDT
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I'm in favor of Amendment 1 simply because the teacher's unions are vehemently against it. That's all I need to know. I don't know enough about the other amendments to form an opinion either way. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:35:57 AM EDT
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I saw 2 ads for and against amendment 1 last night on TV . I figured the amendments as usual were written poorly and being ignored
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:15:54 PM EDT
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I'm against 1, simply because I fear that state-run schools (as opposed to county/city) open the door for Federal run schools. Considering the bigger gov gets, the more poorly it works - does it make sense turning schools over to the state? Its bad enough to have to adhere to common core and all the other liberal bullshit. The other part of it comes from the standards being set. Who/what is to say that the state won't continue to adjust standards until all schools are state run. In theory, any educational SPLOST money would end up in the state coffers, as opposed to the municipalities. Also, failing schools are a product of failing communities, and there is nothing the state can do about that. Good schools have active parents, bad schools don't. The state can force "parents" to give a damn about their crotch fruit. Fuck big government.
As far as teacher union in GA - it is virtually non-existent. 2. Haven't looked into it yet, but seems desitined to be filled with earmarks. My local State Senator voted NAY 3. Looks like more .gov over reach 4. Works for me |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:25:21 PM EDT
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I'm against 1, simply because I fear that state-run schools (as opposed to county/city) open the door for Federal run schools. Considering the bigger gov gets, the more poorly it works - does it make sense turning schools over to the state? Its bad enough to have to adhere to common core and all the other liberal bullshit. The other part of it comes from the standards being set. Who/what is to say that the state won't continue to adjust standards until all schools are state run. In theory, any educational SPLOST money would end up in the state coffers, as opposed to the municipalities. Also, failing schools are a product of failing communities, and there is nothing the state can do about that. Good schools have active parents, bad schools don't. The state can force "parents" to give a damn about their crotch fruit. Fuck big government. As far as teacher union in GA - it is virtually non-existent. 2. Haven't looked into it yet, but seems desitined to be filled with earmarks. My local State Senator voted NAY 3. Looks like more .gov over reach 4. Works for me Maybe if they put a caveat in the constitution to only take over schools where school board is majority Democrat, I could get behind it. There are some school boards that could use a good enema. On the other hand, is the Governor going to appoint his golfing buddies/donors and their children, or will it be someone who can get things done? Definitely two sides to this coin. No simple answer, that is for certain. There needs to be some serious oversight. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 3:00:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm against 1, simply because I fear that state-run schools (as opposed to county/city) open the door for Federal run schools. Considering the bigger gov gets, the more poorly it works - does it make sense turning schools over to the state? Its bad enough to have to adhere to common core and all the other liberal bullshit. The other part of it comes from the standards being set. Who/what is to say that the state won't continue to adjust standards until all schools are state run. In theory, any educational SPLOST money would end up in the state coffers, as opposed to the municipalities. Also, failing schools are a product of failing communities, and there is nothing the state can do about that. Good schools have active parents, bad schools don't. The state can force "parents" to give a damn about their crotch fruit. Fuck big government. As far as teacher union in GA - it is virtually non-existent. 2. Haven't looked into it yet, but seems desitined to be filled with earmarks. My local State Senator voted NAY 3. Looks like more .gov over reach 4. Works for me |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 3:21:52 PM EDT
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I'm in favor of Amendment 1 simply because the teacher's unions are vehemently against it. That's all I need to know. I don't know enough about the other amendments to form an opinion either way. There is no Teachers Union in Georgia. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 3:29:46 PM EDT
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OK, tell that to my sister who has dues taken out of every check, and not voluntarily. Granted, they don't have collective bargaining powers, but they are most certainly existent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm against 1, simply because I fear that state-run schools (as opposed to county/city) open the door for Federal run schools. Considering the bigger gov gets, the more poorly it works - does it make sense turning schools over to the state? Its bad enough to have to adhere to common core and all the other liberal bullshit. The other part of it comes from the standards being set. Who/what is to say that the state won't continue to adjust standards until all schools are state run. In theory, any educational SPLOST money would end up in the state coffers, as opposed to the municipalities. Also, failing schools are a product of failing communities, and there is nothing the state can do about that. Good schools have active parents, bad schools don't. The state can force "parents" to give a damn about their crotch fruit. Fuck big government. As far as teacher union in GA - it is virtually non-existent. 2. Haven't looked into it yet, but seems desitined to be filled with earmarks. My local State Senator voted NAY 3. Looks like more .gov over reach 4. Works for me This doesn't sound accurate to me, the only program in Georgia is PAGE and its completely voluntary. I know because my wife is a teacher. I'd like to see a screenshot of these non voluntary dies from a pay stub, pays stubs can be pulled up in the new system online. I can screenshot my wife's stub after vacation, only thing we pay is PAGE due to legal coverage. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 3:32:30 PM EDT
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As for #1, Cherokee County is already looking at plans to ignore this if it passes.
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Posted: 9/16/2016 3:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This doesn't sound accurate to me, the only program in Georgia is PAGE and its completely voluntary. I know because my wife is a teacher. I'd like to see a screenshot of these non voluntary dies from a pay stub, pays stubs can be pulled up in the new system online. I can screenshot my wife's stub after vacation, only thing we pay is PAGE due to legal coverage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm against 1, simply because I fear that state-run schools (as opposed to county/city) open the door for Federal run schools. Considering the bigger gov gets, the more poorly it works - does it make sense turning schools over to the state? Its bad enough to have to adhere to common core and all the other liberal bullshit. The other part of it comes from the standards being set. Who/what is to say that the state won't continue to adjust standards until all schools are state run. In theory, any educational SPLOST money would end up in the state coffers, as opposed to the municipalities. Also, failing schools are a product of failing communities, and there is nothing the state can do about that. Good schools have active parents, bad schools don't. The state can force "parents" to give a damn about their crotch fruit. Fuck big government. As far as teacher union in GA - it is virtually non-existent. 2. Haven't looked into it yet, but seems desitined to be filled with earmarks. My local State Senator voted NAY 3. Looks like more .gov over reach 4. Works for me This doesn't sound accurate to me, the only program in Georgia is PAGE and its completely voluntary. I know because my wife is a teacher. I'd like to see a screenshot of these non voluntary dies from a pay stub, pays stubs can be pulled up in the new system online. I can screenshot my wife's stub after vacation, only thing we pay is PAGE due to legal coverage. This doesn't sound accurate to me. What's the matter, never heard of GAE (Georgia Association of Educators)? How about MACE (Metro Association of Classroom Educators)? In Georgia, teachers do not have collective bargaining powers, so these "associations" are basically neutered unions, but unions nonetheless. I'll text her and see which one she was paying, but I know it wasn't MACE as she taught in Bulloch Co. ETA - I'll match your edit  |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 3:57:53 PM EDT
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This doesn't sound accurate to me. What's the matter, never heard of GAE (Georgia Association of Educators)? How about MACE (Metro Association of Classroom Educators)? In Georgia, teachers do not have collective bargaining powers, so these "associations" are basically neutered unions, but unions nonetheless. I'll text her and see which one she was paying, but I know it wasn't MACE as she taught in Bulloch Co. ETA - I'll match your edit
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I'm against 1, simply because I fear that state-run schools (as opposed to county/city) open the door for Federal run schools. Considering the bigger gov gets, the more poorly it works - does it make sense turning schools over to the state? Its bad enough to have to adhere to common core and all the other liberal bullshit. The other part of it comes from the standards being set. Who/what is to say that the state won't continue to adjust standards until all schools are state run. In theory, any educational SPLOST money would end up in the state coffers, as opposed to the municipalities. Also, failing schools are a product of failing communities, and there is nothing the state can do about that. Good schools have active parents, bad schools don't. The state can force "parents" to give a damn about their crotch fruit. Fuck big government. As far as teacher union in GA - it is virtually non-existent. 2. Haven't looked into it yet, but seems desitined to be filled with earmarks. My local State Senator voted NAY 3. Looks like more .gov over reach 4. Works for me This doesn't sound accurate to me, the only program in Georgia is PAGE and its completely voluntary. I know because my wife is a teacher. I'd like to see a screenshot of these non voluntary dies from a pay stub, pays stubs can be pulled up in the new system online. I can screenshot my wife's stub after vacation, only thing we pay is PAGE due to legal coverage. I'll text her and see which one she was paying, but I know it wasn't MACE as she taught in Bulloch Co. ETA - I'll match your edit
Never heard of GAE or MACE, asked the wife and she's heard of GAE but not MACE. There are no forced dues on any of these groups, are all voluntary to join. That being said, I was just looking into these and that MACE group looks pretty bad. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 6:23:10 PM EDT
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imo...always vote no, unless damn sure you know what is actually in the amendment
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Posted: 9/16/2016 6:29:22 PM EDT
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#3, I am not sure. I see it as a power grab by elected officials....but one that might be needed. Anyone have more insight? Disgraced former Ga. judge behind push to abolish judicial watchdog group |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 8:47:14 PM EDT
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OK, tell that to my sister who has dues taken out of every check, and not voluntarily. Granted, they don't have collective bargaining powers, but they are most certainly existent. OK, tell your sister to change districts. I worked in Cobb, the 2nd largest district in the state, for 9 years. Union was optional, and next to 0 membership. Based on that information, I think it is safe to say that it is nearly non existent. Cobb has nearly 40k more students than the entire population of Bulloch. |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 9:06:00 AM EDT
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#3, I am not sure. I see it as a power grab by elected officials....but one that might be needed. Anyone have more insight? Disgraced former Ga. judge behind push to abolish judicial watchdog group Wow what a sorry POS. Sounds like he needs to be sued into the trailer park. |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 9:40:08 AM EDT
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Wow what a sorry POS. Sounds like he needs to be sued into the trailer park. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#3, I am not sure. I see it as a power grab by elected officials....but one that might be needed. Anyone have more insight? Disgraced former Ga. judge behind push to abolish judicial watchdog group Wow what a sorry POS. Sounds like he needs to be sued into the trailer park. He's a scuz. Was learning at my wife when we did an adoption in his court. Vote no! |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 8:02:55 PM EDT
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i know that ex judge, vote no and those voters need to throw his caboose out. His pappy was a politician and he is too...a full blown politician
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Posted: 9/19/2016 7:46:21 AM EDT
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I plan to vote no on all of them.
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Posted: 9/19/2016 5:03:47 PM EDT
[#19]
No it is
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Posted: 10/18/2016 6:23:00 PM EDT
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Bumped for more discussion
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Posted: 10/19/2016 12:08:07 AM EDT
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I'm against 1, simply because I fear that state-run schools (as opposed to county/city) open the door for Federal run schools. Considering the bigger gov gets, the more poorly it works - does it make sense turning schools over to the state? Its bad enough to have to adhere to common core and all the other liberal bullshit. The other part of it comes from the standards being set. Who/what is to say that the state won't continue to adjust standards until all schools are state run.. The answers are easy to find. Georgia SB 133 For a school to be taken over, it must receive an F grade for 3 years in a row based on criteria already set by the State Board of Education, the OSD can only accept up to 20 schools a year and can only manage 100 schools for any given school year which out of 2,200 schools in the state means only a maximum of 4.5%. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 2:35:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2016 4:07:04 PM EDT
[#23]
I plan to vote NO on all four.
Amending the constitution should be reserved for matters of GREAT importance. These issues reek of being laws that could not pass the general assembly!!! 
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Posted: 10/20/2016 6:21:05 PM EDT
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I plan to vote NO on all four. Amending the constitution should be reserved for matters of GREAT importance. These issues reek of being laws that could not pass the general assembly!!!
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:05:26 PM EDT
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I plan to vote NO on all four. Amending the constitution should be reserved for matters of GREAT importance. These issues reek of being laws that could not pass the general assembly!!!
Agreed Emu and well said. None of these issues rise to the level of Constitutional muster. These are management issues and not core principle issues. They have no business on the ballet |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 11:04:25 PM EDT
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No on all 4.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:59:14 PM EDT
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1. Yes
2. No 3. No 4. Yes |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:23:19 PM EDT
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As for #1, Cherokee County is already looking at plans to ignore this if it passes. They can ignore it all they want if they don't rely on State funds to pay their teachers. The State pays a portion of all teachers in GA and the county pays the rest. I'm willing to bet Cherokee County can't afford to pay their teachers w/o State funds. td |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 8:40:47 AM EDT
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As for #1, Cherokee County is already looking at plans to ignore this if it passes. One would think they would be better served by fixing the problems with their schools. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 7:43:15 PM EDT
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One would think they would be better served by fixing the problems with their schools. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As for #1, Cherokee County is already looking at plans to ignore this if it passes. One would think they would be better served by fixing the problems with their schools. Us citizens in Cherokee should secede. Kidding. I'm no on all 4 of them as well. I saw on local news that amendment 2 was being called a poll tax since "it would also allow the legislature to impose assessments on adult entertainment establishments." I mean government in our schools is one thing guys, but our strip clubs!?! |
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