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Posted: 3/18/2013 12:43:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2013 12:44:12 PM EDT by egutzeit78]
Nothing really new. I just posted it because its official.
http://www.governor.ny.gov/assets/documents/ffl_letter.pdf
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 1:42:01 PM EDT
Burn it.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 2:04:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Prominus:
Burn it.


Wipe your ass with it and send it back.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 2:38:49 PM EDT
Can an FFL do a NICS check on them self?
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 2:46:52 PM EDT
So, as an FFL, you cannot charge more than $10 for a transfer? Or is it just a private transfer (which is no longer private)
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 2:47:09 PM EDT
Well NICS generate a transaction number, no? So that number is written down on the copy of reciept or ID to prove it.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 2:49:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By widerstehe:
Originally Posted By Prominus:
Burn it.


Wipe your ass with it and send it back.

Wipe your ass w/ it and put it in a registered envelope to prince andy himself .
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 2:53:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Gastard:
Originally Posted By widerstehe:
Originally Posted By Prominus:
Burn it.


Wipe your ass with it and send it back.

Wipe your ass w/ it and put it in a registered envelope to prince andy himself .


+1 better than my idea.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 3:05:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DefMan:
Well NICS generate a transaction number, no? So that number is written down on the copy of reciept or ID to prove it.

The new ATF "private party" transfer procedures are here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_9/520534_so_FTF_illegal__are_FFL_s_forced_to_play_.html&page=5
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 3:29:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By deadmanmike:
So, as an FFL, you cannot charge more than $10 for a transfer? Or is it just a private transfer (which is no longer private)


Just "private transfers"
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 3:38:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2013 3:39:00 PM EDT by rkbar15]

Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By deadmanmike:
So, as an FFL, you cannot charge more than $10 for a transfer? Or is it just a private transfer (which is no longer private)


Just "private transfers"

Which means the vast majority of FFLs and firearm dealers in NYS will be doing "non-private transfers" for their regular 4473/P12 transfer fees.


Link Posted: 3/18/2013 3:39:57 PM EDT
Customer : "Will you do a private transfer for me?"

FFL : "Sure, it will cost you ten dollars. You will also have to by this Bic ballpoint pen for 30 dollars. Deal?"

Problem solved.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 3:40:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rkbar15:
Which means the vast majority of FFLs and firearm dealers in NYS will be doing "non-private transfers" for their regular 4473/P12 transfer fees.


No doubt
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 4:00:23 PM EDT
Im thinking that you just have a sign like they do at the barbers saying "Tips strongly recommended for your own good" on your front door lol
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 4:55:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cas:
Can an FFL do a NICS check on them self?



We don't have to. The only exception (as told to me by the ATF agent/inspector whatever that interviewed me) is an ffl or a police officer only if they have a letter, on department letterhead, from their superior stating that the weapon they are purchasing will be a duty weapon. Then she said that you're supposed to keep the letter on file in lieu of the 4473. If you wanted your ffl buddy to sell one of your guns on consignment and they logged the gun into their bound book and you changed your mind about selling it, your buddy would have to do a NICS check on you to give you your own gun back.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 5:48:10 PM EDT
I personally think $10 is not enough - I am not an FFL though. I will be tipping for all private transactions.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 6:17:08 PM EDT
I still fail to see how, unless the NYSP go hard with sting operations, they would ever know if two people that know each other did a private sale of a gun that they owned before the safe act went into effect.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 6:31:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By egutzeit78:
I still fail to see how, unless the NYSP go hard with sting operations, they would ever know if two people that know each other did a private sale of a gun that they owned before the safe act went into effect.


Sssshhhhhhhh, dont tell anyone.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 8:09:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By egutzeit78:
I still fail to see how, unless the NYSP go hard with sting operations, they would ever know if two people that know each other did a private sale of a gun that they owned before the safe act went into effect.


The fear will keep everyone on an even kiel, its already working, try and purchase an AR from someone....they think your a fed, you think he's a fed...fuck this state!!
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 8:41:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By junior29:
Originally Posted By egutzeit78:
I still fail to see how, unless the NYSP go hard with sting operations, they would ever know if two people that know each other did a private sale of a gun that they owned before the safe act went into effect.


Sssshhhhhhhh, dont tell anyone.


After it's a complete and utter failure, that will be their excuse to have total registration of all guns, as they goose step through the halls of the capital in albany.
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