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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:04:53 AM EDT
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...but did Dave Hendersons Outdoor column this week have it right? The renewable pistol permit thing starts up this year in a few test counties, and once your permit gets updated it's by NYSP and your permit issuance is entirely out of the loop at your local county permit office after that? That is correct. The pilot counties are Albany, Schenectady, and Fulton. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:29:18 AM EDT
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That is correct. The pilot counties are Albany, Schenectady, and Fulton. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...but did Dave Hendersons Outdoor column this week have it right? The renewable pistol permit thing starts up this year in a few test counties, and once your permit gets updated it's by NYSP and your permit issuance is entirely out of the loop at your local county permit office after that? That is correct. The pilot counties are Albany, Schenectady, and Fulton. I guess I didn't realize that while they had their hands in the renewal process that they'd actually be the source of the physical renewed permit |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:37:51 AM EDT
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Nobody should be renewing now!
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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:41:53 AM EDT
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So are we hoping for real NYS Pistol permits...without the local restrictions like hunting/range only......one can only wonder
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Posted: 12/25/2014 12:16:55 PM EDT
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So are we hoping for real NYS Pistol permits...without the local restrictions like hunting/range only......one can only wonder NYSRPA (last I asked) position was NOT in favor of State issued Licenses. It's a double edged sword that will inevitably be used to slay us all: Can you imagine every handgun owner in the State having to pay $300. every five years like NYC? How about your "non-restricted" licenses being summarily restricted to comply with the rest of the State? Rural, less populated, more laissez-faire County residents being lumped into the same restrictive premise as say those of NYC? Oh Waite, that's what the un-SAFE act did. ..It's bad enough governmental power at the local level is being centralized to Albany. (also true on the Federal level) The whole thing should be scrapped, but the do-over might be worse than what we have now. 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 12:32:30 PM EDT
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I wonder where the funding for this "renewal program" will come from.
I wonder how they will man this cluster fuck. I wonder wonder who, who wrote the book of love. Sorry my mind wanders when I wonder. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 7:41:24 PM EDT
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I wonder where the funding for this "renewal program" will come from. I wonder how they will man this cluster fuck. I wonder wonder who, who wrote the book of love. Sorry my mind wanders when I wonder. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile All that money saved by shutting down co is will now fund the renewals. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 9:25:04 PM EDT
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I'm hoping to be moved out of nys by the time i have to renew and they can do what ever the freak they want then.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:01:18 PM EDT
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I'm hoping to be moved out of nys by the time i have to renew and they can do what ever the freak they want then. The invitation will be to recertify immediately although recertification is not required prior to January 31, 2018 So what's going to happen when hundreds of thousands of Licenses need renewal all at once? 
I too will either be completely out of this State, dead, or a prisoner by the time all this bullshit is due. 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:29:21 PM EDT
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If we register now we are only showing our willingness to go along with these bullshit laws. This connecting of all other types of licensing that is issued in NYS with our drivers license is just a bunch of bullshit control by the state! And a BIG FUAC!!!
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Posted: 12/26/2014 12:18:41 PM EDT
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Does anyone sell plate carriers for dogs?
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Posted: 12/26/2014 5:49:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody should be renewing now! |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 5:51:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder where the funding for this "renewal program" will come from. I wonder how they will man this cluster fuck. I wonder wonder who, who wrote the book of love. Sorry my mind wanders when I wonder. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 8:30:15 PM EDT
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There will be some kind of renewal fee, I assume. I assume the county will still have control over what type of permits are issued. Would suck if the NYSP start altering permits Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wonder where the funding for this "renewal program" will come from. I wonder how they will man this cluster fuck. I wonder wonder who, who wrote the book of love. Sorry my mind wanders when I wonder. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 19) Recertification discrepancies must be corrected by amendment to the Licenses at the County level. Applicants will be instructed to do so. 23) The recertification application is just like a pistol permit application without the refrences. The applicant is required to list all arrests, drug or alcohol treatment, mental illness or family court petition or charge. 28) Positives will be referred to the licensing officer for revocation or clarification. 29) If the NYS Police determine that it cannot recertify the permit, the recertification is sent to the Licensing Officer. (Lt. Xxxxxxx indicated that the permit holder will have his entire application reviewed by the State Police and the application may be referred to a licensing officer for further review even if the information disclosed on the recertification application is the same as the information provided on the initial pistol permit application. This is not limited to Federal prohibitors. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 8:57:41 PM EDT
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Place your bets on the number of lawsuits this change inspires.
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Posted: 12/26/2014 9:01:58 PM EDT
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Place your bets on the number of lawsuits this change inspires. 33) After January 31, 2018 the Law states that failure to recertify is an automatic revocation. Likely it will fall to the Licensing Officer to actually revoke the permit. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 9:18:59 PM EDT
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33) After January 31, 2018 the Law states that failure to recertify is an automatic revocation. Likely it will fall to the Licensing Officer to actually revoke the permit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Place your bets on the number of lawsuits this change inspires. 33) After January 31, 2018 the Law states that failure to recertify is an automatic revocation. Likely it will fall to the Licensing Officer to actually revoke the permit. Nope, no constitutional infringement there! 
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:22:01 PM EDT
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33) After January 31, 2018 the Law states that failure to recertify is an automatic revocation. Likely it will fall to the Licensing Officer to actually revoke the permit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Place your bets on the number of lawsuits this change inspires. 33) After January 31, 2018 the Law states that failure to recertify is an automatic revocation. Likely it will fall to the Licensing Officer to actually revoke the permit. So is this where our County Sheriffs go toe to toe with the NYSP? Or is Jan 2018 the month that they release the current prisoners to make room in jail for all us poor bastards who have done nothing wrong? Fuck me sideways. I am so tired of this shit. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 12:16:46 AM EDT
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Seriously plate carriers for dogs - can stryker approve a group buy?
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Posted: 12/27/2014 12:19:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 19) Recertification discrepancies must be corrected by amendment to the Licenses at the County level. Applicants will be instructed to do so. 23) The recertification application is just like a pistol permit application without the refrences. The applicant is required to list all arrests, drug or alcohol treatment, mental illness or family court petition or charge. 28) Positives will be referred to the licensing officer for revocation or clarification. 29) If the NYS Police determine that it cannot recertify the permit, the recertification is sent to the Licensing Officer. (Lt. Xxxxxxx indicated that the permit holder will have his entire application reviewed by the State Police and the application may be referred to a licensing officer for further review even if the information disclosed on the recertification application is the same as the information provided on the initial pistol permit application. This is not limited to Federal prohibitors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder where the funding for this "renewal program" will come from. I wonder how they will man this cluster fuck. I wonder wonder who, who wrote the book of love. Sorry my mind wanders when I wonder. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 19) Recertification discrepancies must be corrected by amendment to the Licenses at the County level. Applicants will be instructed to do so. 23) The recertification application is just like a pistol permit application without the refrences. The applicant is required to list all arrests, drug or alcohol treatment, mental illness or family court petition or charge. 28) Positives will be referred to the licensing officer for revocation or clarification. 29) If the NYS Police determine that it cannot recertify the permit, the recertification is sent to the Licensing Officer. (Lt. Xxxxxxx indicated that the permit holder will have his entire application reviewed by the State Police and the application may be referred to a licensing officer for further review even if the information disclosed on the recertification application is the same as the information provided on the initial pistol permit application. This is not limited to Federal prohibitors. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 12:21:15 AM EDT
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Ah http://www.scopeny.org/NY_SAFE_ACT/Pistol%20Permit%20recertifcation%20memo.pdf
Wow they revoke your permit for owing back child support So the moral of the story is to recertify by paper and send it return receipt to make NYSP administration costs as high as possible. It's a violation of federal law for them to require social security numbers, not that they care. Sounds like discrepancies means like your current address isn't what the county pistol permit office has, so you have to file an amendment. Oh and you will have to carry and additional card with you showing you have Recertified,  |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:42:43 AM EDT
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Sooooooooo glad I am no longer in NY. It's like it was designed so most people would just say fuck it and take their pistols to the next "buy-back" program.
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Posted: 12/27/2014 6:08:12 AM EDT
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That is correct. The pilot counties are Albany, Schenectady, and Fulton. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...but did Dave Hendersons Outdoor column this week have it right? The renewable pistol permit thing starts up this year in a few test counties, and once your permit gets updated it's by NYSP and your permit issuance is entirely out of the loop at your local county permit office after that? That is correct. The pilot counties are Albany, Schenectady, and Fulton. Figures
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Posted: 12/27/2014 10:25:07 AM EDT
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...but did Dave Hendersons Outdoor column this week have it right? The renewable pistol permit thing starts up this year in a few test counties, and once your permit gets updated it's by NYSP and your permit issuance is entirely out of the loop at your local county permit office after that? That is correct. The pilot counties are Albany, Schenectady, and Fulton. Figures I just got off the phone with another regular who, when we were done talking the finer details of his next transfer, mentioned he's looking at moving to PA I have to wonder how many hard-working NY gun owners this state will ultimately lose over SAFE 1, not to mention future legislation that will continue to tighten the screws on gun owners |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 5:34:58 PM EDT
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Ah http://www.scopeny.org/NY_SAFE_ACT/Pistol%20Permit%20recertifcation%20memo.pdf http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/outdoors/safe-act-stipulations-require-reading-20141220 http://www.tenxshootingclub.com/2014/12/safe-act-pistol-permit-renewals/ It's a violation of federal law for them to require social security numbers, not that they care. Florida requires the SS# for renewal now too. In their packet, they provide the section of law that allows them to ask. The SS card that was issued to me actually says, "not to be used for identification purposes". |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 7:39:47 PM EDT
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So, what? You going to turn in your pistols or just wait for the deputies to show up at your door? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nobody should be renewing now! From what I understand what they are doing now is voluntary. If legally we do not have to renew untill Jan 2018, why would we? |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 9:11:42 PM EDT
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Sheriff Thomas Lorey of Fulton County (one of the counties in Cuomo's pistol permit re-certification pilot program under the NY SAFE Act) asks New Yorkers to throw the invitations in the garbage !
http://youtu.be/uuipnSxWN2A |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 9:20:34 PM EDT
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From what I understand what they are doing now is voluntary. If legally we do not have to renew untill Jan 2018, why would we? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nobody should be renewing now! From what I understand what they are doing now is voluntary. If legally we do not have to renew untill Jan 2018, why would we? HA! Throw a party and no one shows up.... It's long past time to tell those who would control our lives to fuck-off!
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