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Posted: 4/3/2003 3:48:07 PM EST
Ok, we need a thread to keep us all updated here. We all have busy lives, but we all are fighting this battle in every way we can.


I'm gonna tack it so we can all quickly find it.
Link Posted: 4/3/2003 5:17:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/7/2003 5:13:56 PM EST by GreenDragon]
Committee action on SB1195 has been extended until the legislature adjourns, May 23 or later. The original deadline was tomorrow, forget about that. All other gunbills have probably been extended as well. SB382 has a hearing set for April 9, so it obviously has been extended. A hearing on SB1195 will probably only have a 1 hr. notice.

If you need info on whether a Senate Committee is taking place, to see what bills are being heard, or to find out the vote of a committee call the Secretary of the Senate at 217-782-7240. On the nights that the Senate is in session past 5pm, they still answer the phone. They may transfer you to the Journal Room217-782-4517.

For the House, try the Clerk of the House at 217-782-8223. I haven't personally tried this number, so I don't know for sure about this one. I have used the Senate number.

edited to add Journal Room phone #
Link Posted: 4/7/2003 3:30:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/7/2003 3:30:54 PM EST by mw365]
The website shows SB 1195 third reading deadline pushed back until 4/9. Did I miss something?
Link Posted: 4/7/2003 5:11:03 PM EST
They are merely extending the deadline. They couldn't meet last Friday's deadline, so they extended it. If they miss the deadline on Weds, they'll extend it again. Amendment #2( or ironically, the 2nd amendment) still needs to be heard in the Judicial committee, just like the original bill was. If the Judicial hasn't heard the Amendment, and they don't extend the deadline, they need to make a decision. Let it die, or have the Third Reading, debate, and vote on the original bill. They know that it won't make it in original form, that's why they extended the deadline, to try to get the watered down version to the 3rd Reading.
Link Posted: 4/9/2003 1:21:43 PM EST
Apparently they're getting tired of extending the deadline every week. Deadline for SB1195 has been extended until December 31, 2003. Remember it could come up at any time before then.

HB2532 3rd Reading deadline still at May 2

HB2356 is back in Rules.
Link Posted: 4/9/2003 2:03:03 PM EST
So in other words, be prepared to move at a moments notice because the sneak attack is inevitable!!



"A man is not armed because he has custody of a weapon.
He is armed only if he has the skill to use it well."
Link Posted: 4/9/2003 6:02:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By GreenDragon:
Apparently they're getting tired of extending the deadline every week. Deadline for SB1195 has been extended until December 31, 2003. Remember it could come up at any time before then.

HB2532 3rd Reading deadline still at May 2

HB2356 is back in Rules.

WHO exactly is getting tired of extending the deadline? Seems like the antis are the ones extending the deadline to make US tired of keeping our guard up. We have to prevent this from happening and keep watch on this as long as it takes.
Now I must ask this. Is there a point where the legislative system will throw out or void out SB1195 if it takes too long for anyone to decide on it or where someone keeps rewriting the rules of it too many times?

Link Posted: 4/10/2003 5:13:05 PM EST
This is what I was told by several people from both Senate and House staff. No bill ever dies as long as there are politicians in that building. They can be rewritten, reintroduced, tucked into the middle of other bills, postponed to prevent dying. We saw one bill fail a vote, they repacked the committee with more anti-gunners, revoted and pass. If the leadership wants to keep a bill alive, they'll do it.

I think there are limitations about what they can do during the veto session, but I haven't had time to check into it.
Link Posted: 4/11/2003 3:45:19 AM EST
from ISRA:

SB1195 - The Daley Gun Grab and Confiscation Law. Despite overwhelming
opposition to the bill, the deadline for consideration of SB1195 has
been extended to December 31, 2003. The extension was requested by
Daley-owned Sen. Tony Munoz. Daley puppet and Senate President Emil Jones
granted the extension.

The message conveyed to the ISRA from the Senate Democratic leadership
is that Mayor Daley has demanded that the General Assembly pass SB1195
and that SB1195 will be passed whether Illinois gun owners like it or

What is wrong with the people of Chicago who put Daley back in power every election???
What arrogance this guy has. He tears apart airport runways at night like he owns the place and here he DEMANDS that SB1195 be passed WHETHER ILLINOIS GUN OWNERS LIKE IT OR NOT. The CHICAGO mayor demands over everyone else in the state what laws should be passed, not just in the city of Chicago, but yes, the whole state of Illinois.
What's next Richie ol' boy?? Wanna try to take the whole country now?? Don't like the " We the people," part of our country's constitutional rights, do you, Richie?

Chicago Mayor Richard Daley does not deserve our respect nor our kind behavior. He has disrespected this state's and this country's rule and way of life that when the people speak, the leaders listen, respect and obey the demands of the people. Not the other way around.

Message to Mayor Daley: We, the gun owners of Illinois demand that SB1195 not be passed in any form, whether YOU like it or not.

Remind me of one of the reasons why this country went to war. Something about removing an evil dictator and his puppets from power? ...Something like that.

Link Posted: 4/11/2003 12:52:09 PM EST
Keep pushing, Daley. We're ready to push back.
Link Posted: 4/11/2003 5:01:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/11/2003 5:01:54 PM EST by mw365]
I don't think Komrade Daley will find downstate to be nearly as passive as the lambs in Chicago (no offense to the non-lambs on this board and elsewhere).

Re-elected with 80%? Come try that in my district!
Link Posted: 5/7/2003 6:36:01 PM EST
HB0312 passed the Senate. It looks like it's headed for the guv's desk.

This is the bill that makes the penalty for attempted illegal purchase the same as illegal purchase.

Any bets on whether Blojo signs it?
Link Posted: 5/13/2003 5:20:21 PM EST
They added a second amendment to SB0947 today. This is the "new" gunshow bill. They've worked out a few more details with this amendment.

HB2579 used to be the vehicle secret compartment bill, until today that is. Now it's the one gun per month bill.

Desperate people taking desperate measures.

Call your legislators, make sure they know of the reworded bills.
Link Posted: 5/14/2003 2:34:58 PM EST

As early as this Friday, the Illinois House of Representatives will try to
resurrect Senate Bill 947. Senate Bill 947, if passed, will impose an
additional tax on law abiding gun owners by allowing the State Police to
charge a fee to individuals who contact the instant background system.
This would do nothing to prevent violent crime, but instead punish and
restrict law abiding gun owners. In this case, the power to tax will
clearly be the power to destroy.

The vote on SB 947 will be very close, so it is more important than ever
that you please call the Representatives listed below and respectfully let
them know that as a law abiding gun owner, you would like them to vote
"NO" on SB 947 as amended. These Representatives could be the difference
between an unnecessary tax and a victory for all Illinois law-abiding gun
owners and sportsmen.

John Millner, District 55: (217) 558-1037
Sandra Pihos, District 42:(217) 782-8037
Rosemary Mulligan, District 65: (217) 782-8007
Linda Chapa Lavia, District 83: (217) 558-1002
Jay Hoffman, District 112: (217) 782-8018
Robert Rita, District 28: (217) 558-1000
Kevin McCarthy, District 37: (217) 782-3316

The anti-gun forces in the Illinois Senate are attempting to undermine
your Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms. The Senate Health and
Human Services Committee passed an amendment to House Bill 2579 that would
limit law abiding gun owners to purchase only one gun a month. The bill
is expected to reach the floor and be voted on by the end of this week.

The vote on HB 2579 is extremely important, so we urge you to call the
Senators listed below and respectfully let them know that as a law
abiding gun owner, you would like them to vote "NO" on HB 2579. Please
make the call today. Thank you.

Edward Maloney, District 18: (217) 782-5145
Maggie Crotty, District 19: (217) 782- 9595
George Shadid, District 46: (217) 782-8250
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 10:41:46 AM EST
Daley needs to go. Until you eliminate welfare in Chicago he isn't going anywhere. This guy loves welfare, drug addicts and criminals. He keeps his job by passing out those welfare checks. It's time for Richie to go.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 5:06:24 PM EST
HB 2532 went up for a vote today and lost.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 5:26:05 PM EST
Green Dragon- do you mean HB2632 ?
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 5:45:58 PM EST
HB 2532 is the Firearms Dealers License bill. It would allow the state police to decide who could sell guns. It also would set up a registration program that is retroactive 2 yrs.

This bill is one of the few to actually make it to a floor vote.

HB 2632 never made it out of Rules.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:09:34 PM EST
OK thanks. I had my hopes up it was 2632- the house equivalent of SB1195...

Oh well, a victory is a victory!

F dick!
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 6:10:37 PM EST
The 4th amendment on SB0947 has been introduced. 22 Reps also jumped on board as co-sponsors today. We can expect to see a push made on this one. This is the new gunshow bill.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 6:07:54 AM EST
What are they amending? What provisions are they changing?
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 11:10:57 AM EST
The news has kind of waned since the furor over SB 1195 died down. With all of the amendments and votes that have happened, could someone give us a snapshot of where we are right now?
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 6:49:43 PM EST
In the beginning of all of this, we were hit with about two dozen bills. Some were minor changes to existing laws, some were extremely dangerous. At this point, only a few are on the surface.

HB1536 deals with making it impossible for certain minors to get FOIDs when they reach adulthood under certain conditions. This passed both houses and will certainly be signed by Blojo.

SB0382 makes it against the law to attempt to illegally purchase a firearm. Before, it was just illegal if the sale was completed. This passed both houses and will also be signed by Blojo.

HB2532 is the firearms dealers license w/ mandatory gun registration retroactive two yrs. It lost on a vote 50-67-00 on May 21

HB2356 is the gunshow bill. It was going nowhere and was re-referred to Rules on April 8.

SB1195 was going nowhere, so on Apr 9 they extended the deadline until Dec 31, 2003. This bill is on the back burner, but it's still on the stove.

HB2579 was the vehicle secret compartment bill, making a vehicle subject to confiscation if it had a secret compartment. This bill was making headway, it passed the House 113-00-00. When it got to the senate, they gutted it. It now is the one gun per month bill. It went up for a vote on May 16 and lost 23-36-00.

SB0947 started life as a housecleaning bill. It made a technical change in the Code of Criminal Procedures, it deleted the words "shall be known and" from an existing law. It was moving along, it passed the Senate 32-16-02. When it got to the House, it picked up a sponsor, Harry Osterman. It also was gutted and picked up new wording. It's the "new" gunshow bill, since the original(HB2356) was dead in the water. The sponsor of the original HB2356? Harry Osterman. Do you believe in coincidence? The new-improved SB0947 has been amended several times. They are fine tuning the language, working out all of the bugs. It looks like they are going to make a real push on this one.

When all of this started, they thought they had us by the balls. They proudly displayed these bills. They got their asses kicked. Now, they're trying to sneak this crap in the back door by gutting bills that have made it along so far. HB2579 and SB0947 are perfect examples of this.

We may never see SB1195 or the others again under their current bill numbers. We would probably see them reappear with new numbers, stolen from other bills.

Bottom line, we must be forever vigilant. These are desperate people that hate us. We know what depths a desperate person will stoop to.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 8:00:58 AM EST
Regarding SB 0947, surely they can't amend it and change it, then vote it in without having the new version go back to the senate, right?

BTW, thanks for the update, GreenDragon.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 4:49:45 AM EST
All amendments have to go back to the senate for a vote. This is the same for both sides.
(Per my Senator)
Rebel 13
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 4:25:16 PM EST
SB0947 passed the House and moves back to the Senate. This is the bill that would make a person to person sale illegal at a gunshow without a background check. Exchanging FOID numbers won't be good enough anymore. Many people might not think that this is a big deal. If passed, next year they could try to slightly modify it. Maybe remove the gunshow provision. Make any person to person saler illegal w/o a background check.

It's time to remind your Senator that you're still alive and kickin'.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 5:38:15 PM EST
The deadline for SB0947 has been extended to 12/31/03, just like SB1195. As far as I can tell, these are the only two bills still openly on the table. Notice that I said openly.

Apparently they decided that a budget is important, and decided to stop wasting time on the gunshow bill for awhile.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 4:44:06 PM EST
It looks like they've gone home until the fall veto session. I believe the next time they're in session is Oct 23. Then Nov 4-6,18-20.

If anyone finds out anything between now and then, let us know. If they reconvene before Oct 23, keep us posted. Have a good summer.
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 4:11:54 PM EST
A lull in the action...

Stay vigilant everyone!
Link Posted: 7/10/2003 1:52:12 PM EST
On July 1, SB0947 and SB1195 were sent back to the Rules Committee.
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