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Posted: 10/27/2009 6:47:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2009 7:01:44 PM EST by Tahawus]
From among those who live outside NYC, how many Empire State residents actually CCW on a regular basis?

1 percent?
5 percent?
10 percent?

I know it depends on what county you are in, in terms of permit restrictions, but as a whole, what percentage of the population is carrying at any given time at places like Wal-Mart or the mall.
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 7:16:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2009 7:21:19 PM EST by DaveM4P99]
Well, I am one of them, that's for sure. Been carrying a G19 IWB for a long time now.

But if I had to guess...I would say less than 10% of people in NY state even own a gun...and most of them are hunters with just long guns.

The ones with handgun permits probably don't carry very often, or have a BS restricted permit.

So yeah...I would say less than 1% of NYers carry.

FYI...I am pulling these numbers out of my ass.

ETA: I wasn't thinking about LEO...just us "regular" people.
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 7:17:12 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 8:32:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Well, I am one of them, that's for sure. Been carrying a G19 IWB for a long time now.

But if I had to guess...I would say less than 10% of people in NY state even own a gun...and most of them are hunters with just long guns.

The ones with handgun permits probably don't carry very often, or have a BS restricted permit.

So yeah...I would say less than 1% of NYers carry.

FYI...I am pulling these numbers out of my ass.

ETA: I wasn't thinking about LEO...just us "regular" people.


+1 for G19...well my kydex holster actually recently broke so...

lately its been Sig 239 9mm or USP Compact 9mm
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 9:26:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Well, I am one of them, that's for sure. Been carrying a G19 IWB for a long time now.

But if I had to guess...I would say less than 10% of people in NY state even own a gun...and most of them are hunters with just long guns.

The ones with handgun permits probably don't carry very often, or have a BS restricted permit.

So yeah...I would say less than 1% of NYers carry.

FYI...I am pulling these numbers out of my ass.

ETA: I wasn't thinking about LEO...just us "regular" people.


+1 for G19...well my kydex holster actually recently broke so...

lately its been Sig 239 9mm or USP Compact 9mm


yup, me too.
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 10:55:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2009 10:58:20 PM EST by emsjeep]
If you include illegal carry in NYC...probly around 20%....
In Nassau...probly .03% have permits (~50,000) I dunno if that is a fair guess...I'd say about 15,000 can carry every day within their restrictions (mostly retired LEO) and maybe 400 of them actually do.... so, say .0002%

for off duty, active LEO...maybe add 1000 to that number for NYC and Nassau etc.
then add about 100 for those with restrictions that carry anyway...
comes out to ~.001%
Link Posted: 10/28/2009 1:57:12 AM EST
What I find disheartening is that last weekend I carried my Sig 229 to the city line, locked it in a box, drove across the bronx, New Jersey and when I got to PA I was able to CCW for the rest of the weekend. I have better rights as a non resident in PA than I do in my own state that I pay gobs and gobs of taxes in. The only time I took it off was on the drive back home. Sadly, it's back in the safe.
Link Posted: 10/28/2009 5:43:28 AM EST
this is my ccw face,
Link Posted: 10/28/2009 9:45:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By Zoomer302:
What I find disheartening is that last weekend I carried my Sig 229 to the city line, locked it in a box, drove across the bronx, New Jersey and when I got to PA I was able to CCW for the rest of the weekend. I have better rights as a non resident in PA than I do in my own state that I pay gobs and gobs of taxes in. The only time I took it off was on the drive back home. Sadly, it's back in the safe.


+1. I hear that! It's so damn annoying driving NYC n NJ, then carry how you wish in other states...
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 9:31:58 AM EST
+1 here, a Para Warthog 45acp, Bullard leather.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 10:19:39 AM EST
I do, but I guess I count for law enforcement. I did carry before I got my badge, however.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 5:44:31 AM EST
+1 99.99% of the time.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:00:57 AM EST
still waiting for the permission to do so.. ill get back to you



btw... when i get the permission it will be on restriction anyway.. awesome
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:19:50 PM EST
I would say 75% of the people I know have a full carry permit.
Of that 75% @ 1/2 of the carry "full time".
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:45:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2009 12:47:27 PM EST by roadrash]
I know a few people that have had their permit for years,and have yet to buy a handgun,I know a few others that have their unrestricted permit for years,but still do not own a handgun suitible for CC,I know others that buy all the shit,carry for a while,then get lazy and never carry.

Me,I have been carrying almost every waking moment since 1989.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:48:11 PM EST
Can't speak for upstate, but down here legal ccw has to be WELL below 1%.

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Link Posted: 11/2/2009 3:48:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 2:10:45 AM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 4:23:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless:
.000000001% I know NO ONE outside of people I know from arfkom who carries all the time and I know a lot of people who have full carry permits, I don't even know any cops who carry off duty.

The few times I have revealed I was carrying, like entering the police station to meet with a prisoner, I have been usually been met with surprise. Even people who don't mind guns are stumped, like you told them you rode a unicycle every you go after you get home from work.


haha. so true. good one.

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 4:57:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless:
.000000001% I know NO ONE outside of people I know from arfkom who carries all the time and I know a lot of people who have full carry permits, I don't even know any cops who carry off duty.

The few times I have revealed I was carrying, like entering the police station to meet with a prisoner, I have been usually been met with surprise. Even people who don't mind guns are stumped, like you told them you rode a unicycle every you go after you get home from work.


This, I always get the when it comes out that I carry from other gun folks. Alot of people look at pistols as a sport thing not a defense thing. Even guys I know that shoot 3 guns feel the same way. Its kinda wierd.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 4:13:18 AM EST
how about "is that loaded?"

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