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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:32:17 AM EDT
And possibly this forums.
The AZ Forum has became an embarrassment for me and the Hometown Community and it will end here today. When I went to GB about the idea of a Hometown he was reluctant at first but, after much prodding he agreed if I agreed to run it. For over 2 years it has really gone on without a hitch until recently. I understand why some of you are pissed off because of previous actions that have taken place in here but, you can't mount a mutiny everytime something doesn't go your way. So I will now have GB seperate AZ and NM from each other into their own forums. If AZ continues to be a pissing fest like it has in the past, I will just ask GB to do away with it.  Before you are ready to spout off about this, think about how many other forums are in this community and the fact that none has had even 1% of the problems we have had in here. I will be out for most of the day but, I sincerely hope things are better when I return. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:36:20 AM EDT
[#1]
None of the rest are half as much fun, half as interesting or generate half as much real world shooting and cameradery as this one. This isn't the worst Hometown Forum, it's the best one. It's too bad you guys don't see that. A lot of us in Arizona are idiots. Just let us enjoy our idiot forum, please. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:39:17 AM EDT
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I rarely come here and browse. Doesn't look like I'm not missing much. It's almost sad.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:42:25 AM EDT
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Ok. Sounds fair. Not pissing but how about an explanation why the bowflex thread was locked? I can see locking the ones that are inflamatory, but why the bowflex? I see in the WA forum that there is a thread about planting lawns a topic no more related to guns than exercise equip. If there is something I'm missing compleatly let me know it seems I'm always playing catch up around here.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:42:53 AM EDT
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Here come the snowbird jackasses again.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:53:33 AM EDT
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I find it odd that NO ONE in the Arizona forum ever complains about what is said in here.
There always seems to be some staph member with his pussy hurt that raises hell about the AZ forum. My membership is set to expire in a few months, but I think I'll let it expire right now. Close down the AZ forum. That will teach those assholes who's really the boss around here. To HELL WITH YOU AND THE REST OF THE STAFF RUNNING AROUND LIKE A BUNCH OF CANDY ASS FAGGOTS WITH YOUR BUTT PLUGS ON FIRE Adios, asshole! |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:58:18 AM EDT
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Make the AZ HTF part of Ed's Bear Pit. Problem solved.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:58:24 AM EDT
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Looks like it's time to run off some more long time paying members because others NOT FROM ARIZONA want to stick their noses into dark cracks where they don't belong and whine and bitch because they're offended by something.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:03:45 AM EDT
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It would seem to me that lacking a CoC violation there is no such thing as an improper topic for a hometown forum. This is supposed to be where we can talk amongst ourselves and deal with things that are important to us on a local level. Not all things must be gun related was my understanding and we had our own local mods to police us. I am begining to feel like the staff and mods look at us as an unwelcome group to be singled out and watched. I had addressed an issue I had to most of the senior staff (via direct email) and was ignored. Prior to that I was making arrangements to get my dealer membership and and to bring another company on baord as a potential advertiser. But the treatment I received has given me pause. Why is it that friendly local arguements are dealt with like a race riot, and the selective enforcement policies of STAFF and MODS are ignored? Youre right, this has gone to far for too long. Do whatever you feel you must, but only threaten those that might actually fear you, and don't ever think any of us do.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:05:30 AM EDT
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We would not need to come here, if there weren't a few other "jackasses" trying to behave like boys instead of grown men. This forum has a lot of people I like,some of them my good friends, but it also has a small vocal minority that fucks it up for everyone else. I have asked,suggested,pleaded,etc that things here be handled with respect and without insults. While most do it,there are a few who insist on standing out as "non-conforming"individualists. What we ask for all to do in the site is very reasonable,so those of the few troublemakers who want to continue to create tempests, need to decide if they want to stay and act like grown men or behave like children and leave. I am here with the same intention 1gunrunner posted.The future of this forum will be decided today.Either you use it as it was intended, or be responsible for LOSING IT for everyone else! In the military we had blanket parties for those who fucked things up for everyone else.here,you will have to find some other way of letting the troublemakers know you do not appreciate their actions.  |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:13:26 AM EDT
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So instead of dealing with INDIVIDUALS who are having problems you blame EVERYONE and threaten to yank the forum.
There is a COC for a reason I presume ?? If someone violates it, deal with that person. Tough concept I guess.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:15:33 AM EDT
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I haven't participated in any of these so called "Uprisings" here in the past, but this is a crock of fucking shit. You come in with statements like
And then anounce that if there are any more problems you will have this forum closed. Your post is a blatent troll, your statement meant to do nothing but incite anger and another "Uprising" so that will will have all the evidence you need to closs the forum. And this is right after you come in here (A forum that you don't moderate) and lock a thread for no damn reason (The Bowflex thread). I guess you're somebody "Special" being site staff and all, but this latest round of thread locking by room seems overbearing and smells like an attempt to kick up dust. Well it worked, aren't we just a fine batch of dancing monkeys.  ETA: Mr Avila, I do understand what you are saying, and agree that at times this place gets a little out of control, but this plan to judge then sentence this forum based on how things go today is destined to end just one way, with the AZHTF dying. Do you really think that these "individualistic Jackasses" (as they seem to have been named) are not going to react negatively to the first post in this thread? Hell, have you ever had a problem with me, or seen my name here in the thick of the fight... I don't think so, but this has been enough to get me, one who doesn't get involved in this shit, upset. This won't go well, the screaming, feet kicking, and floor pounding will begin soon. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:15:43 AM EDT
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And what problems are those? I think one of the things most people, mods and Staff included tend to forget is that on the whole WE ACTUALLY KNOW EACH OTHER! Unlike most of the other forums, we all get together and shoot, have parties, and just visit with each other. If we occasionaly get into a pissing match, you can rest assured that we still like each other. Every "problem" you allude to has been excallibrated by an outside influence that has made matters worse. I'm sorry that anyone would threaten to take away our HometownForum, but then again you have the buttons and are going to do what you want, so I'm not going to change or beg to suit your idea of playing nice. I would however remind you that if you decide to remove the AZ forum, then I expect no less of any other forum that violates these same rules. I see "kill the cop" threads in GD all the time, and those appear to pass inspection. How many times do you masterbate a day, OK in GD. I just took a giant one, OK in GD. FU threads go on for 12 pages, OK in GD. Various pics that are quite improper, OK in GD. The Pit, a forum specificaly designed to bring out the worse and most obnoxious in posters, ACTUALLY CREATED FOR THAT REASON! And yet, we are not allowed to ask a question without it being locked and a smart a** comment like "take it to IM is left? I respect and like the Avilas, and really have nothing against Mods and Staff, but I honestly believe there is a double standard that has been imposed on us for the apparent amusement of some. Mr. Avila, I have nothing but respect for you, your family, and this site, so if you feel that I am out of line with what I have said above, feel free to lock my account and I will hold no ill will. Thanks, GS808/Kevin |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:18:49 AM EDT
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Bryan,we are not threatening anything.We are telling you how we do not have any time or intention of letting a few people treat this forum like their own personal playground.I have tried other ways as a friend.Apparently some here think so little of me as a friend that they piss on my requests.I can be as nice as anyone else,but i also know when people are taking advantage of my asking nicely.Believe me,asking politely as i have done IS NOT A SIGN OF WEAKNESS!
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:23:24 AM EDT
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Interestingly, I have tried not to be a "troublemaker" here with only a couple of exceptions, and that was saved for a single asshat to, IMO, deserved it.
However, never have I been enraged, offended, pissed, peeved, tweaked, or othewise insulted by ANY thread that has appeared in the Arizona forum. Never. Not when the dreaded "T" word raised its ugly head, not when someone asked a question about exercise equipment. Not when someone was disussing the merits of a certain much-maligned terrier breed. Heck, not even when someone called ME names, etc. If we, the users of said forum, are not in any sort of snit over how this is run, why should anyone else be? The Supreme Court indicated that local community standards play into the definition of what is obscene/pornographic. Thus, what is accepted in California might be downright horrifying in Indiana. That's fine. However, if someone from Indiana travels to California, then gets their panties in a wad because they see that "Manhole Magazine" exists and is for sale in San Francisco, do they have any right to complain? The same could be said about the opposite situation, where a Californian visiting Indiana cannot find a copy of "Piss Drinkers Monthly" during his vacation and starts bitching about it. It appears that Arizonans who find the AZ HTF too rough and tumble just don't visit here. Fine...just like changing the channel when a Jane Fonda movie comes on. You don't go destroying TVs or work to shut down the TMC or AMC channels, do you? Maybe you do if you're a mod from out-of-state. At least that the appearance of what I have seen here. Again, just my opinion. Either this is for the Az folks (or questions / comments from others about our state) or it is not. It appears "it is not" is the prevailing attitude, and that someone in Indiana believes s/he has the knowledge and right to know what's best for California. We already have people like that....the ones that want to run the lives of others. They are called Congressmen. Just my $0.02, for what it's worth. Tim Weaver Practical Tactical, LLC Glendale, AZ |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:25:21 AM EDT
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Ed,
It's kind of like when the police show up at a reported domestic disturbance. The police arrest the husband then the wife tries to kill the police officers claiming it was just a loud argument. The problem here is that staff assumes there is a domestic disturbance and shows up. Then evryone jumps on them. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:30:30 AM EDT
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I consider you among my friends so in that capacity,and not as an adversary I will say: The cummulative effect of problems here is such that even the moderators are wary to get involved.This forum has become a "lawless frontier town" where a few of its members want no interference from outside.Read the threads locked beginning with the pitbull thread and tell me if you do not get my drift (wiggers and ni66ers",etc). We do not want anyone to leave.The reason for this place is to have a community where we can organize and discuss things.But,when the discussion turns into a shouting match nobody can hear a thing and the place falls apart |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:37:49 AM EDT
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<COMMENT REMOVED- COC VIOLATION>
Look familiar Ed? Thats what happens everywhere else when it get out of hand. Compare that to the AZ forum version System Message -=THREAD LOCKED=- Why the difference? And please read my above post and answer. I've waited over a month since my problem with Aimless, still nothing. You got my $20 so you don't care about my $400? |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:41:37 AM EDT
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Are those magazines available through Practical Tactical? I'm tired of having to drive all the way the way to AzExarms to see the latest copy..... 
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:42:51 AM EDT
[#19]
One of the problems is that some of the people in the AZ forum think this forum is an EXCLUSIVE place ONLY for AZ members.It is NOT. If someone from NY comes here and posts an opinion that is contrarian to what AZ forum members believe you have two options. One is to discuss the issue;and another to tell ask person "WTF are you posting here for" "snow birds",don't give three shits what you think,etc. To use your analogy.Even if it is culturally acceptable for a couple/family to "beat the shit out of each other" the "law" in the area may not allow it.When that happens and the "police" arrives,it is in everyones' interest to remain calm and explain that it is a "loud argument" and see if it can be settled.If everyone jumps in,it is a free for all conducive to a bad outcome. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:46:01 AM EDT
[#20]
My plan is working!!!
 They are all just jealous anyways, AZ is the best state in the Country. They figure if they cant live here and play with cool shit, they will come to the forum and lock our threads. BTW: I think Pitbulls are illegal in WA and NY..... ETA: Muahahahahaahhahaahahhaa |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:47:16 AM EDT
[#21]
Okay, I understand why the pit bull thread was locked. But... I'm not seeing it with the bowflex thread.
The locked Bowflex thread  Not trying to stir the pot, just alleviate some of my own confusion. What was it violating? Confused, Mike |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:54:26 AM EDT
[#22]
I spent the whole weekend (Friday-Sunday) shooting instead of arguing on the internet....damn that felt good.
 as I said in another thread Welcome to Arizona, it's crazy here, and we like it that way...I think I'm going to replace the US flags on all my shooting gear with Arizona ones, I'd rather not claim association with many of the other 49. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:54:59 AM EDT
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Silly man, it was locked because a staff member thought it should be. No other reason is needed. 
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:55:14 AM EDT
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Ed,
I understand what you are talking about. However, what I don't see is why this forum has been treated differently from GD. Why was the bowflex topic locked? What was the COC violation? Why was the Pitbull topic locked? What was the COC violation? (And if the COC violations were in a specific comment, why wasn't THAT comment deleted, THAT poster punished, and THAT reason given?) Everything after that is a direct consequence of a staff member coming into this forum and locking threads with no reason. That incites the 'rebellion' in this forum. If there is a reason to lock a thread, just let us know WHY the thread was locked. If there is a person causing problems, deal with THAT person. As you know, most of us are very nice, reasonable people here. Please deal with the people who are not reasonable, not those of us who are. I'm going to lunch, and then it looks like I'm digging up my Arizonashooting.com password....
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:55:50 AM EDT
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I haven't looked at that thread for a while, but didn't somebody in Tucson offer to sell a used Bowflex to the poster? Maybe a tight ass interpretation of the COC could call that an EE violation of the COC.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:56:21 AM EDT
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Have no idea what you are referring to in red.(I do not handle memberships,money,etc for the site) Yes,there is a visible diference.The problem is that we cannot spend all day editing and babysitting comments which violate policy. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:57:19 AM EDT
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[joining the fray] As a Mod here, in this forum (regardless of my state of residence  ), I can tell you that I have used the lightest methods of 'correction'. Surely you admit that there are some here that take no greater sport than egging on a situation. The MO is something like this.... - Find a thread with a bit of dissention...(helps with boredom) - advance dissention into widespread war...(gotta get some excitement going!) - post about warring thread in GD or Team forum...(can't perform without an audience) - push the CoC until broken...(must have in order to make the next step) - Mods/Staff intervene...(each of us have different trigger points) - battle lines are drawn and the war is on...(Staff/Mods vs. AZ Posters) - Sr. Staff comes in and halts the festivities...(kind of like now) - 87 new threads about what went wrong...( and how the Staff/Mods were off base) Sound familiar? |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:00:24 AM EDT
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Wiggy, Why haven't those posters been dealt with? And why does staff seem to want to deal with this directly, and not through you and Treetop? It would seem to me that would be the correct method. When I need something done out in the shop, I don't go to the worker to deal with it directly. I speak to the shop foreman, who takes care of it. That should be what happens in this situation, also. I'm really going now... |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:01:30 AM EDT
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Naw, were just trying to get Ed to come and visit again.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:03:08 AM EDT
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And staff starts another fire. That's like three fires in two months. You guys need to stop playing with matches.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:06:38 AM EDT
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i can see why the pitbull thread was locked, that was getting a bit out of hand.. so tell me why the bowflex thread was locked. I was involved in two different threads and neither one of those was locked before it got out of hand and some VERY foul words were exchanged between me and a few other members.. if HB2325 needs support and LEO please read weren't locked before they got to 4 pages of shit slinging, why would the bowflex thread be locked for NO shit talking at all? hell, I had to get the sand out of my mangina over the flippin issues, and now they're in the past... FYI.. I got to meet a few of the guys that was involved in the other threads, and can say that I'll be in touch with them in the future, they're pretty damn good guys, and were kind enough to invite me out for more shoots
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:14:14 AM EDT
[#32]
Silly question I guess, but why ISN'T the AZ forum PRIMARILY for AZ people ?
I mean whats the point if it isn't ? I'm not saying others can't come here and ask questions regarding AZ issues or about moving to AZ, vacations etc... But many people (including some mods and staff) come here to dump a turd in the punchbowl and leave. Then the self appointed clean up crew comes along with their panties in a bunch and seem to want to fix a problem that doesn't exist. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:18:04 AM EDT
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This is what I posted in the Bowflex post.
________________________________________________________________________________ I have a bowflex down here in Tucson my wife needed for some rehab. It's about 3 years old with little use and set up in our spare room. For the right price I'll drive it up to phoenix and set it up. _________________________________________________________________________________ I sent a E-mail like they ask no big deal. I talked to EdAvilaSr he said no problem with my post. He just doesn't want any more name calling or personal attacks. Neanderthal |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:19:27 AM EDT
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It isn't being treated different.
I don't know about bowflex,but the pitbull had gotten into a pissing match.
1GUNRUNNER came here because of the the pitbull thread
Not created to bring out the worse,but rather to give the obnoxious a place to get it off their chest and avoid locking their accounts. To say otherwise is to assume a logic in line with :"jails bring out violent behavior in otherwise nice people"....etc |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:20:25 AM EDT
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Ed said it already but apparently it needs to be repeated. The AZ forum is part of AR15.com. It belongs to the Avila's..not all the members from AZ. You are here as guests. When you hang out here your asked to abide by the CoC for the site.
It's quite simple and all the other hometown forum members seem to have no problem understanding this concept and following it. Why a certain few here can't or won't is beyond me. As 1Gunrunner and Ed have already stated..this will end today. As a matter of fact it has begun. I locked Rip-Roar'n-Wacko's account after his post in this thread. We will see where it ends. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:23:43 AM EDT
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The division of labor is such that Mods are to be the first line of defense for the CoC. It is our job to be the guy you know and maybe have had a drink or gone shooting with, maybe a friendship has developed. This relationship is (normally) intended to provide a solution to 99% of these flareups before they really get out of hand. This is why Mods are only allowed to trash threads and not to have any account locking/suspending authority....with a trashing, most of these warring threads would be allowed to die. These posters you are inquiring about do not fit any mold. On some days a particular poster (usually very INNOCENT in nature, ) will begin busting someone's chops over something small and then the next day will be authoring a great thread about a Carbine Class he helped get off the ground for fellow AZ ARFCommers! A true case study in schizophrenia!The posters ID'd as truly trollish or argumentative in nature have been thrown out. Bottom line is that the members here in AZ are quite resistant to ANY authority. Kind of place that decides to NOT do Daylight Savings Time. Sheesh  This resistance to authority is manifest by (sometimes) lashing out against anyone and everyone (usually with a large audience) with a mandate to exercise some amount of authority. These authority haters could serve themselves well by growing up and realizing that we all have rules and bosses of some type and quit playing the victim card so damned much. "OK, we get it, you do not like to be told what to do....guess what, neither does anyone else. Get up, dust yourself off, brush the sand out of your mangina and drive on. Please for all that is holy, stop the incessant whining and juvenile actions!" Signed Your Local Mod, Wiggy762. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:25:57 AM EDT
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Here is the Bowflex link: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=13&t=196126
Please tell me, us, the AZ Hometown Forum which rule I/we broke and I/we will follow the rules. I don't get what was done wrong on this thread in the first place. Y- |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:28:18 AM EDT
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1GUNRUNNER since we are splitting up the AZ/NM I nominate myself to be the new AZ Hometown Mod!!!!
All  <---(commonfolk) to  <--(a320az)..... Muahahahahahaha
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:28:56 AM EDT
[#39]
I didn't lock it but I'm going to take a stab at why. It was a "for sale" thread..which belongs in the equipment exchange forum..not here. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:29:44 AM EDT
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There is a well known rule regarding any "WTS/WTT" ads showing up in the Hometown Froums instead of in the EE. Not a blow-up, can't get along with each other, "I hate you" lock, but instead a WTS ad lock. Make sense? |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:31:27 AM EDT
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No, it was a question asked in a post by the thread initiator. Someone posted that they had one if interested. It was not a "for sale" thread. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:32:38 AM EDT
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That is proof that we do not come here looking for anything in most cases UNTIL WE ARE CALLED! Had i seen the threads you refer to,I would have done something about it. LOOK GUYS.Nobody is out to get anyone here.Lets just stop the nasty comments and we can stay out of here. When i come to the AZ forum without being called,it is because i like to talk to you guys,not because I want to argue with anyone. Peace.............please? 
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:36:47 AM EDT
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The Bowflex thread was locked as it became into a thread about buying a Bowflex from another. The initial question was no problem but, when the next guys says "I got one I'll sell you" it becomes something that needs to be in the EE or handled via email after that. Nothing sinister about it. If it was that big of a deal I would have moved it to trash. His point was made he wanted to buy one locally and save the shipping. It was/is still there for everyone to see. Hell the factory is about 60 miles south of me and last year I went with a friend and he picked up 2 from there. A simple call to them would have answered to you have any dealers in AZ local to me.
The fact that it was locked is not nearly as big as you guys want to make it out to be. Just something you can find to mount another AZ Forum meltdown over. Let it go. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:37:09 AM EDT
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Actually, it was exactly what this forum is supposed to be about, local stuff. Thread title;
Thread starters first post.
This was a guy looking for a local dealer for the product, some place (IN PHOENIX ARIZONA) that sells the product so that he could just walk in a buy one. The fact that somebody else mentioned that he knew someone that might want to sell it is irrelevent since that was not what the thread was about. Because somebody got all power mad and locked the thread, the original poster never got an answer to his question. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 9:43:05 AM EDT
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You see, in your very own post you highlight (in red above...red is my doing) the offense to the CoC. Why are you angry about a situation that was not, in any way, inflammatory? Did it involve you? No. Did the original poster make contact, via email as per the request of the "power mad", with a party willing to sell a bowflex? Yes. Again, how does this involve you to the extent you get all bunched up over it? I really don't know. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:02:22 AM EDT
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So the thread starters post is locked because some one else post that they might have what they were looking for ? So screw the guy and his request for info............. Ah to hell with it, who cares, have fun, knock yourselves out. |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:04:12 AM EDT
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So, ya wanna sell me one 1GR? Just kidding, just kidding! 
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:07:13 AM EDT
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LOCK THE THREAD !!! LOCK THE THREAD !!!! So whats the total this time, how many members locked or banned today ?? |
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:10:12 AM EDT
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Spectre it is pretty early for a count.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 10:13:20 AM EDT
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