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Posted: 9/20/2005 1:19:23 AM EDT
Resident of Arizona here, wanting to purchase a handgun.

Now, seeing as how I'm only 19 years of age, I'm not able to legally purchase a handgun from a licensed dealer, this I know. However, as far as my research shows, I'm able to purchase a handgun from a private party and/or any other unlicensed seller. However, I've been denied several good deals on quality firearms sold by private parties due to my age.

If someone could please show me, or post a link to, any Federal or Arizona State law/regulation/statue/rule that states a person over 18 years of age in good standing is unable to purchase a handgun from an unlicensed seller.

After checking out several sites and reading over numerous statues, I haven't found one piece of writing that states someone over 18 years of age cannot purchase a handgun from a private party in the state of Arizona. Could someone please enlighten me as to why those few sellers passed my offers? I'd like to think my cash is just as green as the next person's...

Now then, my quest for a Sig P229R (.40 S&W), HK USP Tactical (.45), Glock 20 (10mm), and/or Steyr M9 (9mm) continues...
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 2:24:26 AM EDT
Nothing wrong with you buying a handgun from an unlicensed party. The 21 age limit is a Federal law and only applies to licensed dealers. I've got a 9mm P-226N and Berretta 96FS that I'll be selling when I get back from Texas in a couple weeks if your interested.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 9:24:09 AM EDT
I can't find it in writing. But if it makes you feel any better, I am 20 and have bought about 6 handguns since I turned 18, one I even bought from an ex-cop. I have been pulled over a few times with the pistol in the car and the cop just ran the numbers and gave it back
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 9:35:00 AM EDT
IM Sent
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 9:44:36 AM EDT
My friend looked it up, when he gets home I'll ask him for whatever he has on it.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 10:37:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sWs2:
My friend looked it up, when he gets home I'll ask him for whatever he has on it.



Much appreciated, looking forward to another input.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 1:35:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/20/2005 1:39:27 PM EDT by sWs2]
18 USC 922, United States Code TItle 18, Section 922, Subsection(s) B and X

(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed
manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or
deliver -

(1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the
licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than
eighteen years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is
other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or
rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable
cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age;

(x)
(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or
otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has
reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile -
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.


For purposes of this subsection, the term ''juvenile'' means a person who is less than 18 years of age.

Edited to bold
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 1:53:57 PM EDT
So nothing saying a non-licensed person cannot sell a handgun or handgun ammunition to a person in good standing over the age of 18?

I've read the 922 section before and noted that a person under 18 is unable to purchase a firearm. Thanks for the recap though.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 3:31:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Randall_Dubya:
So nothing saying a non-licensed person cannot sell a handgun or handgun ammunition to a person in good standing over the age of 18?

I've read the 922 section before and noted that a person under 18 is unable to purchase a firearm. Thanks for the recap though.


as far as I know its NOT against AZ law for peopel under 21 (but above 18) to buy/ own a handgun. And the way the laws about the 21 and over purchasing sounds, only FFL's can't sell handguns to people under 21. Remember laws don't tell you what you can do, only what you can't do.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 4:46:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sWs2:
Remember laws don't tell you what you can do, only what you can't do.



Very true, thanks again for the info.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 11:26:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Randall_Dubya:
Sig P229R (.40 S&W), HK USP Tactical (.45)


Just wanted to say that you have excellent, but very expensive taste.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 1:33:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Agent_Scott:

Originally Posted By Randall_Dubya:
Sig P229R (.40 S&W), HK USP Tactical (.45)


Just wanted to say that you have excellent, but very expensive taste. hr


Hehe, yeah, I don't like to settle for less when it comes to the good stuff. If I'm going to have a hobby, I might as well go with the best, right?

After all, I chose this as a "hobby" to retain and/or increase monetary value. All the money I would've otherwise spent on big rims, automotive "accessories", and/or high-end computer hardware is going towards quality firearms that will (hopefully) retain their value. On top of that, I always enjoyed going to the range as a kid, and now that I'm living on my own, I'm able to go as often as I wish. havewww.beast-enterprises.com/azgunlaw.html

Still looking like 18 and over is good-to-go here in the fine state of Arizona...
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 8:32:08 AM EDT
Talk to an attorney.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 8:52:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/21/2005 9:05:07 AM EDT by Razardica]
You're good --

http://www.endyourself.com/gunporn.jpg

I just acquired this the other day, and I'm your age.

Your only obstacle is buying ammunition, you can't at Walmart, where it's awesomely cheap, and certain other places might give you static. Best bet is to get friendly with a small gun store near you, it's what I do.

Email, we should go shooting sometime, I'm a member of the SGC.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 9:27:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Razardica:
Your only obstacle is buying ammunition, you can't at Walmart, where it's awesomely cheap, and certain other places might give you static. Best bet is to get friendly with a small gun store near you, it's what I do.


I disagree. I have never had a problem buying ammo at walmart. I just tell them it is for a 9mm carbine and they sell it to me. Usually I don't even get carded because I carry in there.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 2:21:33 PM EDT
According to my interpretation of the Arizona Gun Owners Guide, it is not illegal for a minor to transport an unloaded firearm to and from places where shooting is not prohibited, as long as the firearms remained cased and unloaded, and the minor in question has a signed note from his parent or guardian authorizing the conduct. I believe possession and transport (to and from places where shooting is not illegal) of a handgun by a minor is also okay under the above circumstances, but with the addition that the unloaded handgun be in a locked case during transport. This is all assuming an adult is not accompanying the minor. I do not believe it is legal for a minor to by a firearm from a licensed or unlicensed individual.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 3:29:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
According to my interpretation of the Arizona Gun Owners Guide, it is not illegal for a minor to transport an unloaded firearm to and from places where shooting is not prohibited, as long as the firearms remained cased and unloaded, and the minor in question has a signed note from his parent or guardian authorizing the conduct. I believe possession and transport (to and from places where shooting is not illegal) of a handgun by a minor is also okay under the above circumstances, but with the addition that the unloaded handgun be in a locked case during transport. This is all assuming an adult is not accompanying the minor. I do not believe it is legal for a minor to by a firearm from a licensed or unlicensed individual.

you are right. However, we are not talking about a minor (under 18), we are talking about over 18 and under 21.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 9:01:49 PM EDT
I do the same thing, Brandon, but they ring it up and it pops up "IS CUSTOMER OVER 21" and they say they can't override the prompt -- they'll get in trouble.
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