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Posted: 4/19/2007 8:08:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2007 8:15:15 PM EDT by variable]


Animus, You may not have to return...

The war in Iraq "is lost" and a US troop surge is failing to bring peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the US Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday.
"I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week," Reid told journalists.

Reid said he had delivered the same message to US President George W. Bush on Wednesday, when the US president met with senior lawmakers to discuss how to end a standoff over an emergency war funding bill.

"I know I was the odd guy out at the White House, but I told him at least what he needed to hear ... I believe the war at this stage can only be won diplomatically, politically and economically."

Congress is seeking to tie funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable to withdraw US troops from Iraq next year, but Bush has vowed to veto any such bill and no breakthrough was reported from the White House talks.

Bush on Thursday was addressing an Ohio town hall meeting and defending the war on terror launched in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

"It is the most solemn duty of our country, is to protect our country from harm," Bush told the invited audience in Tipp, Ohio.

"A lesson learned was that -- at least in my opinion -- that in order to protect us, we must aggressively pursue the enemy and defeat them elsewhere so that we do not have to face them here."

But Reid drew a parallel with former US president Lyndon Johnson who decided to deploy more troops in Vietnam some 40 years ago when 24,000 US troops had already been killed.

"Johnson did not want a war loss on his watch, so he surged in Vietnam. After the surge was over, we added 34,000 to the 24,000 who died in Vietnam," Reid said.

The comments came a day after bombers killed more than 200 people in a slew of car bombings in Baghdad, dealing a savage blow to the US security plan which aims to deploy an extra 30,000 troops in the country to quell sectarian unrest.

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates fly into Iraq Thursday on an unannounced visit for talks with top US military commanders there.

He met with General David Petraeus, chief of coalition forces in Iraq, his deputy Lieutenant Colonel Ray Odierno and Admiral William Fallon, chief of US forces in the Middle East.


Link Posted: 4/19/2007 8:32:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2007 8:44:03 PM EDT by BigBang]
I pray that the Republicans can field an electable candidate to run against this piece of shit next time. I plan to donate $$ and time to help defeat this scumbag.

Independent Like Nevada, my ass
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 9:19:46 PM EDT
I respectfully disagree, Mr.Reid. The war is not lost, the leadership and compass of our nation is lost.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 9:57:29 PM EDT
The man talks politics, and costs American lives. Is that what we want as the leadership of our nation? I would much prefer to see a man who can stand up and say; It isn't going to be easy, but what choice do we have.

Oh my, I guess I have excluded the female canidate...
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 4:10:53 AM EDT
This guy is a disgrace to Nevada and the United States. I literally get sick to my stomach when he spews this kind of garbage.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:09:02 AM EDT
Cnn/AP news article 16 Feb 2007;

Per 100,000 Americans, the current death rate in Iraq is 60.6 since 02 January 2004.

FBI states;

Per 100,000 Americans, the current deat rate in Washington DC is 80.4 since 01 January 2004.

That my firend, shows there is a 25% more chance to die in a viloent crime in WA DC than in Iraq.

My question to Harry Reid is; "When is American going to pull out from DC???"

Link Posted: 4/20/2007 9:45:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2007 1:02:35 PM EDT by 308Sako]



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Link Posted: 4/20/2007 10:22:11 AM EDT
Harry Reid on the podium with Pelosi gives me the feeling that were in for a World of Shit(Gee ya' Think)

Harry parades himself for saving BLM Land in Nevada( show me the Proof) I have found nothing but expansion and sell out.......SUX I tell ya'
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 10:33:10 AM EDT
Of course there is going to be an increase in violence. That comes with the desparation of insurgents that know they are about to die so they are going to get their last licks in. I, for one, welcomed the surge.

The reason we lost so many in Vietnam is due to the fucking pogues in congress not wanting to actually fight the damn war and placed restrictions on the troops like they are doing in this war.
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