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Posted: 12/14/2006 7:54:02 PM EST
HI, I will be moving to idaho and I was hoping some one could tell me the process of buying a handgun and a ar15 there. What types of documents are required, background  checks, finger printing, waiting time? Difference from private party and gun shop? Thanks.
Link Posted: 12/14/2006 8:06:39 PM EST
[#1]
fingerprinting!?...oh man
Link Posted: 12/15/2006 5:15:56 AM EST
[#2]
Welcome hotrocks.

As far as I know, Idaho doesn't have laws any more strict than Utah.

Go buy the guns at a dealer, and you'll fill out the 4473 registration form, which stays with the dealer.  
He will also do a background check on you, over the phone.  Usually takes just a few minutes.
If everything comes back good, you pay for them, maybe buy some ammo too, and you're done.  Head home with your new toys.
Fingerprinting isn't done, nor is waiting periods, in many states, including Idaho and Utah.

If you're buying them from a private party (classified ads, etc.), then it is cash & carry.
The seller cannot 'knowingly sell' to a person who is not legally able to possess firearms, like felons.
Some other people will want to see a CCW permit, others won't.


eta:  If I'm wrong on any of this info, someone feel free to correct me.

Link Posted: 12/15/2006 7:47:02 AM EST
[#3]
Thanks Primos, you mentioned some people want to see a CCW permit, do the stores want to see this also? It seems Utah and Idaho has some nice citizen friendly gun laws compared to most places :)
Link Posted: 12/15/2006 8:31:32 AM EST
[#4]
Link Posted: 12/15/2006 9:41:42 AM EST
[#5]
if you've got an Idaho CWP, you won't have to have the background check.  there is no fee for the background check if you do have to have it tho.

Primos pretty much summed up the rest.

CWP = $55.  good for 5 years.  you'll get fingerprinted.

SM
Link Posted: 12/15/2006 12:30:19 PM EST
[#6]
If you have either a DD214, NRA safety certificate or some type of firearms training certificate that will suffice for getting your Idaho CCW and waive you from having to take the class.  Otherwise it's a normal NICS call for a background check for dealer purchases, (private party sales there are no requirements on any purchases), if you clear you take possession immediately no waiting.  

Class III is legal so if you're into fullauto or suppressors then get some!

Link Posted: 12/17/2006 7:14:24 PM EST
[#7]
I dont know about OR specifically but WA does NOT recognize IDs CCW license/permit. I live in ID and carry on my WA CPL and intend to renew it with my ID address when it expires in 2009 . Also in ID your CPL is tied to your DL for traffic stop purposes, i.e." Are you carrying a weapon today?", whereas my WA is not, they had to ask for my CPL to verify I actually had one as the dispatcher couldn't tell the cop if I had a CPL or not after making me wait for 5 minutes while they ran my info and couldn't find anything. Had I just lied about not having a weapon I would have been on my way, as it was I thought I'd test the system and see what did come up, nothing apparently. ID reconizes every states permit IIRC, but not all states recognize ID's, if you intend to travel much. On top of that I didnt wanna take a class to prove I was capable, after already doing it nearly daily for the last 10 years.
Link Posted: 12/17/2006 8:31:50 PM EST
[#8]
One more question. Is there a limit on how many fire arm can be purchased at once? I know in some states there are.
Link Posted: 12/18/2006 4:19:43 AM EST
[#9]

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One more question. Is there a limit on how many fire arm can be purchased at once? I know in some states there are.


Idaho isnt one of them. There is an extra Federal form when buying from a dealer if you buy more then 2 pistols in a set time limit, like 7 days or something, from the same FFL (unless they've eliminated that in the last 10 years or so). Never had to fill one out myself as I'm not a "high volume" buyer.  
Link Posted: 12/20/2006 5:09:39 AM EST
[#10]

Quoted:

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One more question. Is there a limit on how many fire arm can be purchased at once? I know in some states there are.


Idaho isnt one of them. There is an extra Federal form when buying from a dealer if you buy more then 2 pistols in a set time limit, like 7 days or something, from the same FFL (unless they've eliminated that in the last 10 years or so). Never had to fill one out myself as I'm not a "high volume" buyer.  


They still have to fill out that multiple handgun purchase form, but that's the dealers headache not the buyers fortunately.
Link Posted: 12/20/2006 8:02:45 PM EST
[#11]

Quoted:
If you have either a DD214, NRA safety certificate or some type of firearms training certificate that will suffice for getting your Idaho CCW and waive you from having to take the class.  Otherwise it's a normal NICS call for a background check for dealer purchases, (private party sales there are no requirements on any purchases), if you clear you take possession immediately no waiting.  

Class III is legal so if you're into fullauto or suppressors then get some!



Not in Mountain Home...

I am Active Military, and tried to use that as an exemption from the class.

You take the class like it or not. They don't hassle you when getting your permit though.

I have heard that this is kind of at the Sheriff's discretion. I say kind of, because no one has challenged the issue yet.

It was a decent class with good instructors, a fromer gun dealer and a Sherrif's Deputy... I think I benefited it.

Link Posted: 12/21/2006 12:33:59 AM EST
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If you have either a DD214, NRA safety certificate or some type of firearms training certificate that will suffice for getting your Idaho CCW and waive you from having to take the class.  Otherwise it's a normal NICS call for a background check for dealer purchases, (private party sales there are no requirements on any purchases), if you clear you take possession immediately no waiting.  

Class III is legal so if you're into fullauto or suppressors then get some!



Not in Mountain Home...

I am Active Military, and tried to use that as an exemption from the class.

You take the class like it or not. They don't hassle you when getting your permit though.

I have heard that this is kind of at the Sheriff's discretion. I say kind of, because no one has challenged the issue yet.

It was a decent class with good instructors, a fromer gun dealer and a Sherrif's Deputy... I think I benefited it.



Interesting... The class is free correct?  I guess if someone really wanted to opt out of the class they could just drive to Boise and apply at the Motor Vehicle office if they're close.  In Arizona the class is mandatory and you pay for it which normally runs around $80 for the class plus your $50 application fee.
Link Posted: 12/21/2006 11:49:03 AM EST
[#13]
You will also have to prove you are an Idaho resident to purchase a handgun from a gun shop in Idaho - longarm purchases from a shop are OK interstate so proof of Idaho residency is not necessary just the regular background check.
Link Posted: 12/21/2006 3:18:53 PM EST
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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If you have either a DD214, NRA safety certificate or some type of firearms training certificate that will suffice for getting your Idaho CCW and waive you from having to take the class.  Otherwise it's a normal NICS call for a background check for dealer purchases, (private party sales there are no requirements on any purchases), if you clear you take possession immediately no waiting.  

Class III is legal so if you're into fullauto or suppressors then get some!



Not in Mountain Home...

I am Active Military, and tried to use that as an exemption from the class.

You take the class like it or not. They don't hassle you when getting your permit though.

I have heard that this is kind of at the Sheriff's discretion. I say kind of, because no one has challenged the issue yet.

It was a decent class with good instructors, a fromer gun dealer and a Sherrif's Deputy... I think I benefited it.



Interesting... The class is free correct?  I guess if someone really wanted to opt out of the class they could just drive to Boise and apply at the Motor Vehicle office if they're close.  In Arizona the class is mandatory and you pay for it which normally runs around $80 for the class plus your $50 application fee.


Not free...$35 for the class.

Link Posted: 12/21/2006 3:48:39 PM EST
[#15]

Quoted:

Not in Mountain Home...

I am Active Military, and tried to use that as an exemption from the class.

You take the class like it or not. They don't hassle you when getting your permit though.

I have heard that this is kind of at the Sheriff's discretion. I say kind of, because no one has challenged the issue yet.

It was a decent class with good instructors, a fromer gun dealer and a Sherrif's Deputy... I think I benefited it.



Not free...$35 for the class.



So.... kinda sounds like it's about money.  "Must take class hosted by Deputy, as required by the Sheriff who won't honor the normal exemptions ".
Link Posted: 12/21/2006 4:15:35 PM EST
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Not in Mountain Home...

I am Active Military, and tried to use that as an exemption from the class.

You take the class like it or not. They don't hassle you when getting your permit though.

I have heard that this is kind of at the Sheriff's discretion. I say kind of, because no one has challenged the issue yet.

It was a decent class with good instructors, a fromer gun dealer and a Sherrif's Deputy... I think I benefited it.



Not free...$35 for the class.



So.... kinda sounds like it's about money.  "Must take class hosted by Deputy, as required by the Sheriff who won't honor the normal exemptions ".


I don't know if it matters whose class you take. I would imagine thier is a certain curriculum that is required by state law.

I wanted my permit, and $35 was cheaper than fighting city hall..

However, I did learn the local attitudes on CCW, the state law, and the fact that Idaho does not have a make my day or stand your ground law. Something to do with Idaho being under the jurisdiction of the Ninth Circus...

I was also told to watch it in the Boise area. Some fo the LEO's over their are not very gun friendly...

At least local law enforcement in Mountain Home seems to be very progun. I was not hassled at all about getting my permit, nor was it delayed.

Link Posted: 12/21/2006 7:31:47 PM EST
[#17]
Where in Mtn Home does one go if they want to get their CCW?
I've been thinking about it i just havent really pursued it.
Link Posted: 12/21/2006 9:03:14 PM EST
[#18]
I recently moved to Idaho as well...youll like it here. I just purchased a 1911 here. it was my first purchase in Idaho. All i needed was to fill out the registration which stays with the dealer, Show them my State ID, they called the Feds to make sure i was clean and i walked out the door with my firearm, a few boxes of ammo and a smile in less then 15 minutes.
Link Posted: 12/22/2006 4:30:31 AM EST
[#19]

Quoted:
Where in Mtn Home does one go if they want to get their CCW?
I've been thinking about it i just havent really pursued it.


Go to the Elmore County Sherrif's office department down town (.125 S. 5th East Street). Same place you get a driver's license here. Hours are 0830 to 1600 M-F
http://www.elmorecounty.org/offices/sheriff/sheriff.htm

You should get it..When you go to buy a gun, the dealer does not have to run your name through NICS. He just writes your carry permit number on the application.






Link Posted: 12/29/2006 7:21:00 PM EST
[#20]
Hey, I moved here about a year ago, currently living in Meridian.  Anyone know who I might need to see about getting a signature to get a couple of weapons SBR'd and canned?
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 8:07:50 PM EST
[#21]
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 6:24:38 AM EST
[#22]



Try the corp, llc or trust route.  No signature, pics or fingerprints.  Anyone listed on the paperwork can access the NFA item.  Makes transfers to heirs easier too.  


FAIK, for transfers to another individual or entity it's taxed and the same CLEO/Prints/crap applies, UNLESS you bring them into the business entity as officers/owners etc.

I believe in business entities for holding NFA anyhow, so I dont disagree with you at all, just the transfer to heirs portion, since if it's still Corp property it doesn't legally change hands.

For CLEO, if you live inthe city limits  its the Chief of Police, in the county its the Sheriff.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:03:33 AM EST
[#23]
are you aware if the Meridian Chief of police signs them, or do I need to move out of town?
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:45:02 PM EST
[#24]

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are you aware if the Meridian Chief of police signs them, or do I need to move out of town?


Spend the $100 for the LLC and save yourself the headache of signoffs and finger prints and shorten your turnaround time on your paperwork.  An Idaho LLC is super easy to set up.

Link Posted: 12/31/2006 1:33:57 PM EST
[#25]

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are you aware if the Meridian Chief of police signs them, or do I need to move out of town?


Spend the $100 for the LLC and save yourself the headache of signoffs and finger prints and shorten your turnaround time on your paperwork.  An Idaho LLC is super easy to set up.



I havent lived in Meridian in like 8 + years, absolutely no idea who the Chief was then or now, and I concur with AZ_, get yerself a business entity. #1. should you personally be sued for anything, it would keep the NFA  items the entity holds from being sold off for damages #2. it legally circumvents the CLEO #3 should you decide to become a "for-profit" business down the road you'll already have the means to do so without much hassle and again, it'll seperate your personal finances from the bsuiness' finances.
Link Posted: 1/2/2007 4:39:05 AM EST
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
are you aware if the Meridian Chief of police signs them, or do I need to move out of town?


Spend the $100 for the LLC and save yourself the headache of signoffs and finger prints and shorten your turnaround time on your paperwork.  An Idaho LLC is super easy to set up.



I havent lived in Meridian in like 8 + years, absolutely no idea who the Chief was then or now, and I concur with AZ_, get yerself a business entity. #1. should you personally be sued for anything, it would keep the NFA  items the entity holds from being sold off for damages #2. it legally circumvents the CLEO #3 should you decide to become a "for-profit" business down the road you'll already have the means to do so without much hassle and again, it'll seperate your personal finances from the bsuiness' finances.


The biggest factor that drew me into getting an LLC is that legally you cannot allow access to your NFA items to ANYONE as the sole owner.  That means your wife is not allowed to have access to where you store these items.  However, if your wife is included in your LLC she can not only have access to them, she can take them out and use them when ever she likes without you having to be present.  That goes for anyone that is in your LLC.  Another benefit is if you should pass away, you do not need to worry about your NFA items having to be transfered to your heirs, as long as they are members of the LLC they belong to them already.
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