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Posted: 9/19/2020 12:38:34 PM EDT
It's been a while since I bought a firearm, and longer since I sold.
I have a BB gun I'm selling.
What's involved to stay within the law?
TIA
Link Posted: 9/19/2020 1:15:57 PM EDT
All transfers in NJ must now be carried out at an FFL, with background check, 4473, and NJ CoE filled out.  FFL will handle all paperwork for both sides.

So, find a buyer, make your deal, meet at chosen FFL, initiate transfer through said FFL.
Link Posted: 9/19/2020 9:06:04 PM EDT
Are you sure about the 4473 and NICS check?

Never was before. Just COE was needed.
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 12:00:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZ_Raptor:
Are you sure about the 4473 and NICS check?

Never was before. Just COE was needed.
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Positive.  There are no more private transfers of firearms in NJ (with the exception of between immediate family members, between LEOs, or between FFL03s).  I believe that went into effect Sept. 2019.  The bill was A2757.
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 8:21:33 PM EDT
Thanks guys.
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 11:04:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/21/2020 11:05:17 PM EDT by AZ_Raptor]
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Originally Posted By Tom488:

Positive.  There are no more private transfers of firearms in NJ (with the exception of between immediate family members, between LEOs, or between FFL03s).  I believe that went into effect Sept. 2019.  The bill was A2757.
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Familiar with that, but a bb gun is not a firearm federally, so using a 4473 is pointless. No NICS was ever done on a bb, pellet or black powder firearm in NJ. Only a COE was filled out by the dealer. I don't believe that can be changed. Are you a dealer Tom?
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:08:25 PM EDT
I apologize...  I completely missed the fact that it was a BB gun.  I read that, but my brain went right to, "NJ considers BB guns firearms - so it's no different".  So yes, the 4473 becomes moot - but that doesn't stop NJ from requiring it:

2C:58-3b(3):
Prior to a transaction conducted pursuant to this subsection, the retail dealer shall complete a National Instant Criminal Background Check of the person acquiring an antique cannon or a rifle or shotgun. In addition:

BB guns meet the definition of "Firearm":  "It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than 3/8 of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person"

and they also meet the NJ definition of "shotgun":  "or any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder which does not fire fixed ammunition".  A BB gun is a firearm, as defined above, and it does not fire fixed ammunition (that is, a self-contained cartridge).  I'm sure this was originally meant to cover things like Blunderbusses and the like, but it's also a catch-all for air rifles and such, too.  Much like NJ doesn't have SBRs, but a 14" barreled AR is by NJ definition a "sawed-off shotgun".

So...  regardless, a transfer has to occur at an FFL, receiver must have an FID, CoE must be filled out, and the FFL will just roll his eyes at the part of the law that requires a NICS check.

New Jersey...  obfuscating gun laws since 1966.

Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:00:46 PM EDT
absolutely fucking insane.

...........and i'm guessing a pellet pistol needs a handgun permit also?
Link Posted: 9/23/2020 12:00:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/23/2020 12:01:58 PM EDT by WhyTanFox]
I don't know, drive to Pennsylvania and sell the toy there?

Fuck this state.
Link Posted: 9/24/2020 9:40:45 AM EDT
Thanks guys, I may just give it to an out of state relative and let them handle it.
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