In the last 4 years, I've only been to 4 gun stores in Ohio:
1) New Albany Shooting Range
2) Olde English
3) Vandalia Tactical
4) Target World
So far, none of them have decent prices on M1's and M1A's. In fact, some of the prices are downright laughable. Is there ANY gun store in Ohio that has good prices on M1's and M1A's?
And no...I'm not going to Camp Perry!
Could I join on the spot if I just bring my police ID or OPOTA certification?
I really want an M1. But, I really, really, really want an M1A. And, since I'm a newlywed, I see my gun buying future as somewhat diminished. I guess my biggest source of hesitation is the quality of what I might get. I don't give a crap about matching serial numbers, and I can always get a new stock (if it was necessary). I just want to know if what I buy will last more than 2 trips to the range!
+1. I hope the non-Ohio guys do not see this. I consider us pretty damn lucky to be so close to Camp Perry. Yeah, it might take a few hours out of your day to get there, but hell you will basically get your rifle at almost half price.
As far as gun shops selling Garands. Good luck, as you mentioned they are way over-priced and as far as I'm concerned the new production Garands are not the genuine article.
Thing is, my brother is getting married also- On the Sunday before Labor Day to boot. If memory serves correctly, its about 30 miles East of Toledo. So, I'll be up in the area anyway... I just want to make sure I can get myself a good shooter without breaking the bank. I'm afraid if I wait too long, there will be nothing left.
Whatever you do, don't challenege Glimmerman to a Garand match.
I had something in my eye and the wind was blowing really hard....
You just need to break it in still
Are there only certain days and times when you can go to Camp Perry and buy these M1s?
If you go to www.odcmp.com/ - there's a link for the North store on either the front page or on the sales page and it will list the days and hours they are open.
You have no excuse not to go to Perry to get a Garand ... look at it this way, you can get a nice USGI Garand for $3-400 or a Century Garand at one of the local shops for $600 ... don't ask me how I know, but it still hurts to sit down.
If you need brand new Shooters Supply usually has decent prices, they are sure to be at the dayton show this weekend.
I have a SA M1A Loaded Walnut/Carbon that I am thinking about getting rid of. Only about 250 rounds through it. PM me for more details.
CMP NORTH STORE
The Civilian Marksmanship Program has opened a store in Port Clinton, Ohio at Camp Perry, Bldg 2500.
The CMP store operating hours will be Tuesday - Saturday 8:30 AM - 3:30 PM.
CLOSING: The store will be closed for inventory 28 Aug thru 5 Sep and will reopen on 6 Sept after Labor Day.
Physical Address: 2000 Lawrence Rd, Port Clinton, OH 43452
What is the requirements for buying a Rifle from them? I have read about several guys going there before, but alas I did not have the time.
By law, the CMP can sell surplus military firearms, ammunition, parts and other items only to members of CMP affiliated clubs who are also U.S. citizens, over 18 years of age and who are legally eligible to purchase a firearm.
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Thanks Slash, no problem in getting a Rifle with them
For those who are interested, I went back to Old English yesterday.
Same ridiculous prices on M1A's. They have the same 3 they've had for the past 6 months.
Anyway, the good news is, they have some pretty kick ass prices on Garands. They had an HR and a Winchester. One was 550 bucks, they other was around 650. I didn't look much at the HR, but the Winchester had a bore that looked immaculate. Nice wood also. I thought long and hard about it...but figured I should stay the course and get an M1A first.
Still...anyone in the Dayton area might want to make a run at it.
If you are still looking for an M1A, I know a guy who has one for sale, the scout w/ 4 20 rnd mags and a case of Aussie 7.62X51 for $1000 IM me if you want his addy.