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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:39:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/31/2009 7:06:46 AM EST by AR15L]
from Cantwell on the concealed carry law.

Dear Mr. C,

Thank you for contacting me with your comments regarding concealed carry laws and reciprocity agreements. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.

Under existing law, the authority to issue concealed carry permits falls within state jurisdiction. Washington State is a "shall-issue" state meaning that residents who meet the necessary criteria (e.g. at least 21 years of age) shall be issued a concealed carry permit upon request. Currently, each state decides which out-of-state permits they will honor. This is done via reciprocity and recognition agreements. In Washington State, the concealed carry permits of other states receive reciprocity only if the licensing state: (1) does not issue permits to individuals under the age of 21, and (2) requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history (RCW 9.41.073).

As you know, Senator John Thune (SD) introduced Senate Amendment 1618 (S.Amdt. 1618) to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 (S. 1390) on July 17, 2009. This amendment would have preempted reciprocity agreements, including those of Washington State. In effect, it would have created a nationalized concealed carry permit set at the lowest issuance standard. Washington State would be forced to grant reciprocity to any permit holder, even if the issuing state did not meet the basic safety and suitability requirements of Washington State law. I opposed this amendment which was not agreed to by the Senate on July 20, 2009.

As your Senator, you can be assured that I will work to protect the legitimate rights of law-abiding American gun-owners, while continuing to support responsible gun control legislation to reduce crime and make our communities safer. I believe both of these goals are important and can be simultaneously accomplished through common-sense gun laws and stricter enforcement of existing laws.

Thank you again for contacting me to share your thoughts on this matter. You may also be interested in signing up for periodic updates for Washington State residents. If you are interested in subscribing to this update, please visit my website at http://cantwell.senate.gov. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
Maria Cantwell
United States Senator
Link Posted: 7/31/2009 7:21:49 AM EST
Liberals like childrens' educations set to the lowest common denominator, why not self defense?
Link Posted: 7/31/2009 10:10:04 AM EST

"common-sense gun laws and stricter enforcement of existing laws."

So, does this mean current gun laws are not "Common sense" laws and we need more
Link Posted: 7/31/2009 10:14:28 AM EST
While I think her response is bullshit, at least it sounds better thought out than the Murray response.
Link Posted: 7/31/2009 10:14:44 AM EST
Didn't ask how things are in Auburn?

Shameful
Link Posted: 7/31/2009 10:34:06 AM EST
While I can "sort of" understand the "States' Rights" arguement , as Joe Huffman pointed out to Pattycakes, that implies that other Federal gun lws and regulations should be repealed...

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Link Posted: 7/31/2009 12:37:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By DW_Drang:
While I can "sort of" understand the "States' Rights" arguement

would that be the one where the states have the right to infringe on a citizens ability to bear arms?
Link Posted: 7/31/2009 12:39:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By FE427TP:

Originally Posted By DW_Drang:
While I can "sort of" understand the "States' Rights" arguement

would that be the one where the states have the right to infringe on a citizens ability to bear arms?

States do not have rights... they have powers... the people have rights...
Link Posted: 7/31/2009 5:25:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By FE427TP:

Originally Posted By DW_Drang:
While I can "sort of" understand the "States' Rights" arguement

would that be the one where the states have the right to infringe on a citizens ability to bear arms?


The theory is that the issuance of concealed carry permits, and recognition of permits from other states, is one for each sovereign state to determine for itself. the the Federal government is already too God-damned big and intrusive.

OTOH: A commenter on my blog pointed at a post on his blog wherein he made a cogent argument that pokes holes in the States' Rights argument:
The Thune amendment was Constitutional under Article 4, Section 1:
Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

A concealed handgun permit is a "record" proving the results of a "judicial proceeding" that occurs as a result of a "public act". It is perfectly acceptable for the Congress to determine the "effects thereof" across state lines.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 3:08:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By DoberDude:

"common-sense gun laws and stricter enforcement of existing laws."

So, does this mean current gun laws are not "Common sense" laws and we need more


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