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Posted: 11/18/2014 11:32:07 PM EDT
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Yes, these background checks are ongoing....anyone with any kind of domestic is getting FOID pulled.. We are working on a case in Mt. Carmel with a lady that allegedly slapped her estranged husband 13 years ago, plead to simple battery and had her FOID pulled 2 years ago.
The wife and I are collecting information on these cases and trying to get the ISP to change their rule. If you want to, have the denied folks contact Valinda with details...no grantees we can help, but we will try. Right now, no one else is trying to help these folks. [email protected] |
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Posted: 11/18/2014 11:46:53 PM EDT
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Are the background checks occurring in coincidence with FOID renewals and firearm purchases, or does the ISP have a non-stop background check process in place for all FOID holders?
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Posted: 11/19/2014 12:05:48 AM EDT
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Are the background checks occurring in coincidence with FOID renewals and firearm purchases, or does the ISP have a non-stop background check process in place for all FOID holders? I've read on IL Carry that the ISP runs every FOID holder through the NCIS database DAILY. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 12:36:05 AM EDT
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I've read on IL Carry that the ISP runs every FOID holder through the NCIS database DAILY. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are the background checks occurring in coincidence with FOID renewals and firearm purchases, or does the ISP have a non-stop background check process in place for all FOID holders? I've read on IL Carry that the ISP runs every FOID holder through the NCIS database DAILY. "The standard practice of completing daily mental health and criminal history reviews will continue on all FOID applicants and cardholders." 
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:21:49 AM EDT
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ISP got in trouble with Feds. for not reporting domestics. They are now scouring records and acting (mostly inappropriately) when they find them.
An application for CC will definitely trigger this search. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 12:08:55 PM EDT
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I've read on IL Carry that the ISP runs every FOID holder through the NCIS database DAILY. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are the background checks occurring in coincidence with FOID renewals and firearm purchases, or does the ISP have a non-stop background check process in place for all FOID holders? I've read on IL Carry that the ISP runs every FOID holder through the NCIS database DAILY. Which really makes you wonder why they need 90/120 days to approve or deny a CCL. I guess if they jam up enough ordinarily law abiding citizens over minor stuff, they don't have to worry about approving any CCLs. Not that I'm calling domestic abuse minor, but it seems like someone that gets accused has very little recourse and is presumed guilty. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 1:33:23 PM EDT
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Yes, these background checks are ongoing....anyone with any kind of domestic is getting FOID pulled.. We are working on a case in Mt. Carmel with a lady that allegedly slapped her estranged husband 13 years ago, plead to simple battery and had her FOID pulled 2 years ago. The wife and I are collecting information on these cases and trying to get the ISP to change their rule. If you want to, have the denied folks contact Valinda with details...no grantees we can help, but we will try. Right now, no one else is trying to help these folks. [email protected] How will 18U.S.C.&922(g)9 affect your efforts to get the ISP to change their rule? |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 7:05:13 PM EDT
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How will 18U.S.C.&922(g)9 affect your efforts to get the ISP to change their rule? This is too big of a question for this forum...The relief process is what we are targeting...We have an IL Supreme court ruling and shortcoming from the Federal relief process to hang our arguments on...ISP is not offering a functional relief process...just a denial. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 7:11:04 PM EDT
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"The standard practice of completing daily mental health and criminal history reviews will continue on all FOID applicants and cardholders." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are the background checks occurring in coincidence with FOID renewals and firearm purchases, or does the ISP have a non-stop background check process in place for all FOID holders? I've read on IL Carry that the ISP runs every FOID holder through the NCIS database DAILY. "The standard practice of completing daily mental health and criminal history reviews will continue on all FOID applicants and cardholders." Yeah. Amazing what can be discerned from little offhanded comments by those in power. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 11:27:38 PM EDT
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The ISP runs more than 1.5 million FOID BGCs everyday?
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Posted: 11/22/2014 4:15:05 PM EDT
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The ISP runs more than 1.5 million FOID BGCs everyday? seems unlikely |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 10:06:16 PM EDT
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I think that those who have Concealed carry or an C&R/SBR are being looked at as far back as possible, for anything that can be used to restrict possession.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:31:01 AM EDT
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The ISP runs more than 1.5 million FOID BGCs everyday? seems unlikely http://www.ilfvcc.org/illinoisfirearms/lawenforcementchecklists/Law%20Enforcement%20Guide.pdf FOID Revocation and Notification Process: Criminal Convictions The Firearms Information and Resources Bureau, a division of the Illinois State Police, is notified of criminal convictions of domestic battery and violations of orders of protection nightly through the Criminal History Record Information (CHRI). • If there is an order of protection or clear and present danger firearm prohibitor, action will be taken within approximately 1 business day to revoke the existing FOID card. • A letter is sent to the cardholder to provide notification of the invalid status of the card with instructions to mail the card to the ISP FIRB. FOID Revocation and Notification Process: Mental Health Facilities Each evening the Firearms Information and Resources Bureau sends the Illinois Department of Human Services (IDHS) a list of valid FOID card holders and DHS checks the list for any individuals who have been committed to a state hospital for mental health purposes. DHS then alerts the ISP FIRB of any FOID card holders that have been committed. • If there is a firearm prohibitor, action will be taken within approximately 1 business day to revoke the existing FOID card. • A letter is sent to the cardholder to provide notification of the invalid status of the card with instructions to mail the card to the ISP F Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 1:44:09 AM EDT
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The ISP runs more than 1.5 million FOID BGCs everyday? seems unlikely Illinois State Police Press Release State Police advise ATF changes will not affect FOID cards Press Release Date: October 28, 2008 || Archived January 13, 2009 The Illinois State Police (ISP) has received notification from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives that the Illinois Firearm Owner’s Identification (FOID) card will no longer qualify as an alternative to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). The notification is due to the change in the expiration of a FOID card from five to ten years effective June 1, 2008, and several recent state court decisions that required the issuance of FOID cards to federally prohibited individuals. As thorough as the process is to ensure FOID cards are kept out of the hands of those deemed ineligible, the ISP has, on occasion, been ordered by the courts to issue a FOID card to someone who was previously denied. Although these individuals may have a FOID card in their possession, they would be denied the purchase of a firearm from a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) and are not exempt from federal prosecution. The ISP will work with the legislature to eliminate the disparity between the state and federal laws. “The ISP takes great pride in its diligence to keep FOID cards, and ultimately weapons, away from those who should not have them,” said ISP Director Larry G. Trent. “While the ISP may not agree with this decision, the court is respected and the Agency complies accordingly.” Prior to the FOID card change, the Brady Law, which took effect on November 30, 1998, allowed the ISP to be the mandated point of contact between a FFL and the FBI when conducting NICS background checks before transferring a firearm to an unlicensed individual. The Brady Law also contains an exemption to the NICS check requirement which allowed the five-year FOID card to qualify as an alternative to the NICS check, authorizing the ISP to conduct the NICS check when issuing a FOID card and processing firearm transfers. The change in the FOID card’s expiration date will not affect firearm transfers since Illinois law requires a FFL to conduct a NICS background check prior to every firearm transfer, even if the person possesses a valid FOID card. The standard practice of completing daily mental health and criminal history reviews will continue on all FOID applicants and cardholders. Illinois residents who wish to acquire or possess firearms or firearm ammunition still must have in their possession a valid FOID card. ### For more information contact: Public Information Office Telephone: 217-782-6637 TDD: 1-800-255-3323 |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:41:09 AM EDT
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This is too big of a question for this forum...The relief process is what we are targeting...We have an IL Supreme court ruling and shortcoming from the Federal relief process to hang our arguments on...ISP is not offering a functional relief process...just a denial. Quote HistoryQuoted:
How will 18U.S.C.&922(g)9 affect your efforts to get the ISP to change their rule? This is too big of a question for this forum...The relief process is what we are targeting...We have an IL Supreme court ruling and shortcoming from the Federal relief process to hang our arguments on...ISP is not offering a functional relief process...just a denial. I taught a student earlier this year who had a Felony conviction, had served time in prison and held a valid FOID. The conviction was not for a crime involving Domestic Violence. I know that relief can be granted, but Domestic Violence is a priority with the Feds and I believe it can make it even more difficult to get relief from the courts. Are you aware of any case where the courts granted relief to someone who had a conviction for a crime related to Domestic Violence? |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 11:10:32 AM EDT
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I taught a student earlier this year who had a Felony conviction, had served time in prison and held a valid FOID. The conviction was not for a crime involving Domestic Violence. I know that relief can be granted, but Domestic Violence is a priority with the Feds and I believe it can make it even more difficult to get relief from the courts. Are you aware of any case where the courts granted relief to someone who had a conviction for a crime related to Domestic Violence? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How will 18U.S.C.&922(g)9 affect your efforts to get the ISP to change their rule? This is too big of a question for this forum...The relief process is what we are targeting...We have an IL Supreme court ruling and shortcoming from the Federal relief process to hang our arguments on...ISP is not offering a functional relief process...just a denial. I taught a student earlier this year who had a Felony conviction, had served time in prison and held a valid FOID. The conviction was not for a crime involving Domestic Violence. I know that relief can be granted, but Domestic Violence is a priority with the Feds and I believe it can make it even more difficult to get relief from the courts. Are you aware of any case where the courts granted relief to someone who had a conviction for a crime related to Domestic Violence? Not a lot but, a basis for moving forward was IL Supreme Ct. case Coram |
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