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Posted: 1/25/2006 2:24:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 2:26:12 AM EDT by BillyBones]
Does anyone know if the FN ps90 will be NY AWB compliant?
City of Albany Compliant?

http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/fn/FNH_CB_PS90.jpg

Regards
Billy
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:34:46 AM EDT
im guessing the Mags wont be , i believe from what i read there 50 rders ?

Joezeta
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:51:52 AM EDT
LI Shooting Center has a PS90 in the case, few friends saw it there.

10rnd mags are obviously out.

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:56:32 AM EDT
That photo of the PS90 has a 10rd mag loaded. They are being sold at around $60 ea, same price as the 30rd and 50rd mags.

The reason for 30rd mags are that some states like OH, IIRC, has a ban on anything more than 30rd.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 11:22:26 PM EDT
PRE_BAN mags are available, just NOT plentiful....I would wait till they start comming down in price, stock up on pre-bans when you can find them in the meantime
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:41:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 2:43:11 AM EDT by metroplex]
Why are they called pre-ban mags? They're made after Sept 2004.
Most of the mags you will find are LE/Military marked, unless they're really new which will not be marked in that manner.

The only 10rd or 30rd mags you will find will be no-ban/post-ban. They did not make these prior to 2004 as the PS90 did not exist.

The only difference between the 30rd and 50rd mag is the magazine bottom lock. The 30rd is taller which reduces the magazine capacity.

The 10rd mag uses an even taller spacer but the buttplate is plasti-welded to the magazine body to prevent disassembly.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 7:00:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:31:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sherm8404:

Originally Posted By Adirondack1:
PRE_BAN mags are available,



Do tell...where?



Are you referring to P90 mags made before 1994? Good luck finding post-ban mags let alone pre-ban mags. The 50rd mags are not date stamped, some are LE/Military stamped though. The P90 was made available around 1990-1992. US agencies/PDs started adopting them close to 2000. I seriously doubt you will find many pre-ban P90 mags available.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:57:11 AM EDT
Ive got a few preban mags. I have never heard of any others. Thats not to say that there arent any more, but I never heard of them.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:06:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mforgerer:
Ive got a few preban mags. I have never heard of any others. Thats not to say that there arent any more, but I never heard of them.



I haven't heard of pre-ban P90 mags, they may exist because AFAIK, the P90 went into service in the early 1990s. I don't know whether or not that was before 1994. I do know that most US agencies adopted the P90 in the late 90s/early 21s century (during the ban). You may have to look overseas for the pre-ban P90 mags and I'm not sure what markings they would use to indicate it is pre-ban.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:50:34 AM EDT
no markings = no way to prove its post ban or preban...your safe
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 11:42:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dieter122:
no markings = no way to prove its post ban or preban...your safe



Most of the 50rd mags will be marked LE/Military, I hope that is not a problem in NY.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 12:20:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
LI Shooting Center has a PS90 in the case, few friends saw it there.

10rnd mags are obviously out.




yeh they want $2900.00 with no mag

fukin jerks
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 6:27:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 8:12:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:

Originally Posted By Dieter122:
no markings = no way to prove its post ban or preban...your safe



Most of the 50rd mags will be marked LE/Military, I hope that is not a problem in NY.



that would be a problem... LE marked mags, and Military marked mags arnt legal
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 2:51:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dieter122:

Originally Posted By metroplex:

Originally Posted By Dieter122:
no markings = no way to prove its post ban or preban...your safe



Most of the 50rd mags will be marked LE/Military, I hope that is not a problem in NY.



that would be a problem... LE marked mags, and Military marked mags arnt legal



The only mag I have right now is the 30rd mag that came with the PS90. There are no markings on it other than 5.7x28, 10, 25, 50. However, from what I have heard, the 50rd mags you can buy on the market will be marked "LE/Military" or something to that extent. I am not sure if 30rd mags are legal in NY - if so, your PS90 should ship with a 30rd mag (otherwise if you're in NJ, then you can only get the 10rd plasti-welded mag because of the 15 rd limit).
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 11:28:00 AM EDT
So in other words at this point we lack the info to give a clear answer.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 2:39:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 3:39:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 2:59:25 AM EDT by metroplex]

Originally Posted By ak007:
So in other words at this point we lack the info to give a clear answer.



There are 10 rd, 30rd, and 50rd mags available. The 10 and 30rd mags were intended for the PS90 and are not marked. The 30rd mag bodies are the same as the 50rd mag bodies.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 5:00:39 PM EDT
You cant take a 30 round mag from another state and change out the lock plate there then bring it to NY and be legit.

Think AWB that never went away.

The P90 is semi auto with a detachable magazine and only has one of the forbidden features- the threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor. They are like M1a's without bayonet lugs.
legally speaking.

The PS90 is NY legal, the only restriction is the magazine capacity. I can assure you personally that there are pre-ban magazines. I have two. The preban mags look and function exactly like post ban ones. There is no difference between pre and post.

Link Posted: 1/30/2006 6:36:53 PM EDT
The latest issue of SGN has a big write-up on the PS90. It's on the cover of the glossy issue. Don't know if it available at newsstands though.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 12:56:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 2:58:42 AM EDT by metroplex]

Originally Posted By mforgerer:
You cant take a 30 round mag from another state and change out the lock plate there then bring it to NY and be legit.

Think AWB that never went away.

The P90 is semi auto with a detachable magazine and only has one of the forbidden features- the threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor. They are like M1a's without bayonet lugs.
legally speaking.

The PS90 is NY legal, the only restriction is the magazine capacity. I can assure you personally that there are pre-ban magazines. I have two. The preban mags look and function exactly like post ban ones. There is no difference between pre and post.



Well technically the flash suppressor is "permanently" attached to the barrel. The barrel is threaded, but the flash suppressor is part of the barrel shroud that is blind pinned to the barrel. If you take this off (the flash suppressor), your PS90 becomes a SBR. It's not like an AR-15 where the muzzle is threaded to take different muzzle devices. The threading is only designed for the shroud and its nothing like the threading you would see on pre-ban/no-ban ARs and AKs. The SBR PS90 barrel that is being sold is threaded only to take the P90 flash suppressor. Basically the PS90 flash suppressor is like the 14.5" M4 barrels w/ the pinned/welded flash suppressor needed to attain 16" barrel length.

It's good that the PS90 is NY legal. I wouldn't count on a steady supply of pre-ban 50rd mags though. FN may start to make unmarked 50rd mags, since the Federal AWB is over.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 10:56:04 AM EDT
my NJ FFL has 3 on order. He said that he is waiting for the NJ models. They will come with the 10 round mags. he is not sure about what will be attached to the end of the barrel. i will get a call as soon as they come in, and i will report back.
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