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Posted: 1/25/2006 5:08:09 PM EDT

I keep missing this feakin' news when I watch it or hear it on the radio or hear it on the TV.

I am having little luck finding anything out on it
FILL ME IN - - -
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:49:23 PM EDT
Dude, Limbaugh has been talking about it. There have been several threads in GD.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:00:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 6:00:51 PM EDT by Backstop]
Oh c'mon man; have a heart.

They're just sneaking across the border to do the jobs our military won't.

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Whether or not they were military depends on the reporting news source.


MSNBC
Mexico: Men in border incident not soldiers

Government says they were smugglers wearing military-style uniforms

MSNBC News Services
Updated: 12:22 p.m. ET Jan. 25, 2006

MEXICO CITY - Mexico insisted Wednesday that men in Mexican military-style uniforms who crossed the Rio Grande River and sparked an armed confrontation with Texas law officers earlier this week were drug smugglers, not Mexican soldiers.

Mexico’s presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar said the FBI supported that view, but he gave no evidence of the claim.

“These were not Mexican soldiers,” Aguilar said at a news conference. “It is known that these are drug traffickers using military uniforms and they were not even regulation military uniforms.”

Texas law enforcement officials confronted armed traffickers near the Rio Grande river on Monday as what looked like a Mexican military patrol assisted the marijuana smugglers as they escaped back into Mexico.

On U.S. side of border

Andrea Simmons, an FBI spokeswoman in El Paso, told The Associated Press that Texas Department of Public Safety troopers chased three SUVs, believing they were carrying drugs, to the banks of the Rio Grande during Monday's incident.

Men dressed in Mexican military uniforms or camouflage were on the U.S. side of the border in Texas, she said.

Simmons said the FBI was not involved and referred requests for further details to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, Calif., reported Tuesday that the incident included an armed standoff involving the Mexican military and suspected drug smugglers. The incident follows a story in the Bulletin on Jan. 15 that said the Mexican military had crossed into the United States more than 200 times since 1996.

Apparent military Humvee helped

In a news conference, Rick Glancey of the Texas Border Sheriff's Coalition, said three Hudspeth County deputies and at least two Texas Department of Public Safety troopers squared off against at least 10 heavily armed men from the Mexican side of the Rio Grande.

U.S. officials who pursued three fleeing SUVs to the Mexican border saw what appeared to be a Mexican military Humvee help one of the SUVs when it got stuck in the river, he said.

“The other two vehicles headed towards the riverbank. One of them crossed back into Mexico, and the third got stuck in the riverbed,” Zapata County Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez said on Tuesday.

An estimated 10 men in camouflage gear in what looked like a Humvee equipped with a .50 caliber machine gun unloaded what was believed to be marijuana from the stuck vehicle, set it on fire, then carried the bundles into Mexico, he said.

A second SUV had a flat tire and was left behind in the United States and its occupant ran across the border, Glancey said.

Gonzalez, also of the Texas Border Sheriffs’ Coalition, said he was skeptical about the Mexican government's claims.

“When you see a Humvee vehicle with a .50 caliber machine gun on it, this leads you to believe this is not a vehicle being used by the drug lords, but in fact is part of the Mexican military,” Gonzalez said. “I think of course the Mexican government knows about this.”

Glancey said he could not confirm whether the armed men seen at the site were Mexican Army, police officers, or drug dealers, and would not detail what markings deputies may have seen on the men's uniforms or the Humvee.

Fearing international incident

Chief Deputy Mike Doyal of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department said that Mexican army personnel had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border, the Daily Bulletin newspaper reported earlier.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal said. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

Hudspeth County Sheriff Arvin West, whose officers were involved in a similar incident last year, said he is certain that Mexican authorities know who was involved.

After the newspaper reported on Mexican military crossings earlier this month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the report was overblown and most of the incursions were just mistakes.

In eastern California, Arizona and New Mexico, the U.S.-Mexico border is largely unmarked. But in Texas, the Rio Grande separates the two countries and even when dry, is a riverbed about 200 feet wide.

In November, Doyal said Border Patrol agents in the border town of Fort Hancock called for help after confronting more than six men dressed in Mexican military uniforms. The men allegedly were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the Rio Grande, Doyal told the newspaper.

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.



Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:32:00 PM EDT
heres the link to it on the Minuteman site

minutemanhq.com/mexmilvid.php
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:25:18 PM EDT
Oh, for a couple of fully loaded Kiowas when you need them....
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:50:32 PM EDT
More than likely Zetas. Former Mexican special forces that were trained to combat drugs and they flipped sides. That have been operating north of the border for about 5 years or so.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:36:33 PM EDT
Zetas usually have AKs...

G3s => mexican army on the payroll of the cartels
AKs => zetas or salvadorans or columbians
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 12:27:27 AM EDT
Humvees and ma deuces ???
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:30:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
Oh, for a couple of fully loaded Kiowas when you need them....



Much to visiable response, causing political outcry and an international incident. This needs a more personal touch, real quiet like, something to make them think on an individual level before they cross the Texas border.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:47:37 AM EDT
Sounds like a job for the Lone Star NG Armor and maybe some defense contractors. I'm game! Maybe they didn't think we meant it when Santa Anna was sent back...
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:43:33 AM EDT
It's no secret that there are a bunch of miliraty units on the take with the drug cartels. Thet actaully escort the drug shipments right up to the border (and then some...).


Somebody needs to get shot. A bunch.

CMOS
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:31:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fyrrmann:
heres the link to it on the Minuteman site

minutemanhq.com/mexmilvid.php



Met a family this past fall who are current Minutemen. They wife shared some stories that were very disturbing.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:58:04 AM EDT

Much to visiable response, causing political outcry and an international incident. This needs a more personal touch, real quiet like, something to make them think on an individual level before they cross the Texas border.


Dunno. I'll bet the VHSLD folks in San Diego would love to get on that.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:17:59 AM EDT
rbailey,
Can you elaborate on the disturbing stories you heard?
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:32:40 AM EDT
it's a war, the media doesn't want to admit it yet.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:02:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Recon_by_Fire:
Sounds like a job for the Lone Star NG Armor and maybe some defense contractors. I'm game! Maybe they didn't think we meant it when Santa Anna was sent back...



Actually, I heard about a week or so ago that the Gov. of Arizona had deployed the AZ NG to the border, and had sent the bill to DC...... to stop these "military incursions" by the Mexican army.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:50:55 PM EDT
TIVO O'Reilly Factor tonight when it replays later tonight. He hada guy on talking about it and some pix. Also covered the tunnels.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:25:49 PM EDT
Let's take over!! I got dibs on Cabo!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:32:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Geologist2:
rbailey,
Can you elaborate on the disturbing stories you heard?



We met this couple camping one weekend and their grandkids and our kids hit it off pretty well. This couple started telling us about their new pop up camper and they had bought it for the stake outs along the border. The mentioned that the ranchers want the minutemen there because they have big problems with the illegas killing livestock and stealing from them. They told us about one of their watches along the border. I can't recall which area along the border, but they were on a ranch a few hundred feet away from the border and very close to an interstate hwy (I think) where there was a rest area. There was a tree close to the hwy which had a yellow light in it. They would witness illegals cross the border and make there way to the rest area. Every time about 6-8 people gathered the yellow light in the tree would blink. Within minutes a van would appear and load up the illegals.

Sounds like a normal problem that occurs daily, but what was most disturbing was the illegals were not just hispanic. They witnessed many muslims also crossing. The minutemen do not carry and only have a radio to inform the border patrol what is taking place. In most cases by the time the border patrol can show up the illegals have already gone.

This couple also mentioned that Bush is very aware of the border problem but has kept this activity hush hush because he does not need negative feed back since Texas is his home state. Something to do with his ratings are already low due to the Iraq war.

We talked for a couple of hours about their experiences but this is what I remember most.

Link Posted: 1/27/2006 4:38:54 PM EDT
"FILL ME IN -- WHAT IS UP wit the MEX MILITARY on our side of the border ?"

It's not REALLY a border now, is it?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:37:26 PM EDT
Mexican corruption is omnipresent , the cartels have the run of the country and it is spilling over here. A sane border and immigration policy will not happen unless we get real BALLS.. THE FOLKS AT THE TOP LET IT CONTINUE! We need Mexican workers and they need us ! We need to have a moratorium on imigration, but building fences and shooting them won't stop the flow , it will slow it for a while, but it will get old real quick. (for some of us)
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:20:09 PM EDT
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/270106incursions.htm
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