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Posted: 8/22/2006 9:16:25 AM EDT
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If you want all that........don't forget the butt lube
 Good luck though Mark |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 9:42:06 AM EDT
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Be open and honest, that's about the best you can do ...... Or do like Mark said.... 
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Posted: 8/22/2006 10:21:15 AM EDT
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ANdy |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 11:24:30 AM EDT
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Don't worry, It's not like a job interview or any other such nonsense, Just be yourself, When my FEO comes round we spend most of our time talking about fishing or bikes. They are just assesing your character so be cool! 
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Posted: 8/22/2006 11:39:38 AM EDT
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Have your driving licence ready.
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Posted: 8/22/2006 11:50:31 AM EDT
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Why? |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 12:18:25 PM EDT
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My visit was painless to be honest, although I did instruct the missus not to make any funny comments in his presence ! She made us both a cuppa and went shopping after 15mins or so anyway, but he did ask her if she was alright with having firearms in the house !?!
FEO checked my safes, and even twiddled each bolt to make sure it was tight. A guy in my club had his FEO literally try and pull his cabinet off the wall !  All in all he was in my house for 2 hours, but to be honest, I couldnt get a word in, so I just sat there and listened to what he had to say. He asked me about the club I was in etc, what sort of shooting they did etc, and went through my wishlist of firearms that I'd applied for. I got everything without any issues. I asked him about transportation of guns/ammo in cars etc, just to make out that I was concerned about safety/security etc Relax, be yourself, it wasnt like an interrogation or anything, it should be a formality if your application has got this far ? Good luck ! Cheers Steven |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 12:54:08 PM EDT
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Dunno, but I've had to show it on the last copule of visits. |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 1:34:29 PM EDT
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Strange!!
My FEO visits last around 3/4 hour max! |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 1:53:15 PM EDT
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Make sure you ain't been done for something naughty?… speeding in a 30 zone could be interpreted as showing poor judgement/irresponsible attitude. ANdy |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 2:02:25 PM EDT
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I had a court appearance for speeding....no biggy....as long as you hide nothing...nothing to worry about. I have heard that a Drink driving offence will do you more harm....under the poor judgement as Andy mentioned. Taffy |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 3:47:01 PM EDT
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There has already been a PNC and DVLA check on you before the FLO/FEO visits.
During my renewal visit (June), the FEO already had the print outs, I've been a good boy, so have a clean(ish) record. FEO also had my wife's records??? |
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Posted: 8/22/2006 10:41:31 PM EDT
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Someone where i work had been done for GBH and was still granted an FAC so make what you will of it all!!!!!
ps that was only 4 months prior to his application. 
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Posted: 8/22/2006 11:21:36 PM EDT
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Thanks for the tips everyone.
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Posted: 8/23/2006 12:08:01 AM EDT
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 ANdy |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 12:18:43 AM EDT
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Speeding or other minor traffic offences are often not reported on the application forms especially if the three year endorsement has passed. Failure to mention it gets a warning and depending on how much of an ass the FEO is, can be 'official', and it should be mentioned to the licencing dept as soon as it happens. One-offs are not so bad, it's the repeated offences, however minor, that show a poor judgment or even a disregard for the law. Then you'll have problems with the FAC process. The PNC check for my RFD didn't show up my SP30 offence, and that was 2+ years 'on the books'. Perhaps there are levels of PNC check, or they only look at the firearms database and find what you tell them or what gets reported to them directly. Matt |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 1:05:03 AM EDT
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I know someone who committed a capital offence with a shotgun....he now has a SGC
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Posted: 8/23/2006 2:23:44 AM EDT
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Good luck.
Tony |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 4:21:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/24/2006 5:40:54 AM EDT
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Just finished my meeting with the FEO. It took about an hour, and went really well. The guy was really knowledgable, courteous and friendly. He took a good look at the security, safes etc. There was a hiccup when it came to the Section 1 Shotgun–not in terms of having good reason or not, but he was unsure about the ammunition purchasing requirements for it –he thought I would need a SCG or section 2 to buy ammo for the sec 1
Didn't make sense of course so he consulted a book and then proceeded to make a few phone calls to senior people and dealers, and sorted out the matter. He had no issue with me asking for a sec 1 shotgun or any of the other calibers (or ammo amounts I asked for). I'll basically now wait and either get a call or simply get the certificate through the mail. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 5:47:02 AM EDT
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Good news Johan, sounds like it all went well.
I'd never thought of the issue of purchasing shotgun ammo (non-slug) if you didnt have a Shotgun Certificate ? Cheers Steven |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 5:55:23 AM EDT
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What was your 'good reason' for the Section 1 shottie?
ANdy |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 6:09:14 AM EDT
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It looks like you could'nt buy any shotgun ammo without at least a SCG, or Sec 1 Shotgun on your FAC. Sec 1 shotgun on FAC gives you access to slugs + unlimited normal shotgun ammmo. (i think this is how it pans out). |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 6:13:45 AM EDT
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Well, I'm a member of Marylebone R&PC, which has affiliation to bisley, so we can shoot solid slug and practical shotgun over there....and I regularly shoot practical shotgun (once a month) at Cheshunt Rifle and Pistol club. (I'm still a probationer there). That is good reason enough, but I'm not counting my chickens yet...as the FEO or his overlords may decide that they don't want to give me access to any/specific firearms. I'll just have to wait and see. PSG is very fun and tacticool, so I'd really enjoy having my own gun for that discipline. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:05:27 AM EDT
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You'll get them. 
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:17:03 AM EDT
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Saiga 12? ANdy |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:19:39 AM EDT
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Naaaaahhhhh, they're not good. It's Remington Semi's that rule the roost in PSG |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 8:22:36 AM EDT
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I know, but not so tactical… Just asking because our local FEO's seem to have a bit of an issue with the Saigas… ANdy |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 9:08:45 AM EDT
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There's only one for me really...
Benelli M1 Super 90, or M3. Guy at the club has one, and they are amazing in the build quality and simplicity. They need very little cleaning due to the recoil system (mechanical, not gas - t There's a reason why the marines use M1's out in the sandbox - they're very simple. robust and reliable. |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:00:27 AM EDT
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If you can get them over there the FN Police Standard Models (basically a Winchester 1300) are excellent guns. They use an aluminum receiver so the weight is good and for a pump they are very fast. Nice action and they use tactical chokes so you can extend the range on them a bit. In the States they sell for right around $350 usually.
Having said that, I agree with that previous poster that in the semi auto world, the M1 Super 90 is the shit. Couple of friends have Montefeltros (sp?) which is more like the sporting model (wood stock, smaller tube) and they are excellent guns all the way around. The recoil operated system they use really is sweet. -Marty |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 10:05:33 AM EDT
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But the Marines don't shoot PSG and if they did, they'd use Remingtons with their vast range of accessories. BTW, Marines also use Beretta 92's
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Posted: 8/24/2006 1:45:26 PM EDT
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I'm still baffled by the inane rules on shotgun barrel lengths that defy any logic or common sense!
…Deep in some dusty corner of the Home Office… M'lud! The villains are sawing off the barrels of their double barrel shotguns to make them easier to carry! Okie Dokie! We'll make the minumum barrel length 24" and the overall 40"! M'Lud! Someone went nuts with an AK47! Okie Dokie! We'll put all hi cap pump and semi auto shotguns under Section 1! M'lud! One of the pheasants wants to know does that mean he cut down the barrel of his Section 1 shotgun to 12" like for a Section 1 rifle? No! But if he has a double barrel shotgun he can put it under Section 1 and cut it down as short as he likes! M'Lud! But wasn't the whole idea of the 1968 act to stop people having sawn off shotguns? Ah, British Firearms Law! You really couldn't make it up…  ANdy |
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Posted: 8/24/2006 11:41:57 PM EDT
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Just to keep you straight the Marines use the new M4, which is gas piston operated.
There have been reported problems with the earlier recoil only operated models, mostly on lighter shot loads. |
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Posted: 8/25/2006 12:10:17 AM EDT
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Yeah, I also read that on Wikipedia. Are M4's available to civvies in the UK?
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Posted: 8/25/2006 2:04:41 AM EDT
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In their UK-sanitised versions, YES Technically they're no M4s, but who cares? An earlier incarnation of my Bushmaster  It now looks more like this; 
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Posted: 8/25/2006 2:20:32 AM EDT
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I think they meant one of these
 
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Posted: 8/25/2006 2:24:45 AM EDT
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Yes, that M4 and not the other M4 Matt =
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Posted: 8/25/2006 2:57:57 AM EDT
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Trouble is, the pheasant version will look something like this… not so tacticool  |
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Posted: 8/25/2006 3:44:00 AM EDT
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The M4 is listed in the Benelli catalogue as having an 18.5" barrel - no other barrel option listed....
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Posted: 8/25/2006 3:45:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2006 3:47:57 AM EDT
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Well we ain't going to be playing with that one then… ANdy |
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Posted: 8/25/2006 5:34:38 AM EDT
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Can you increase the barrel length with a permanently fixed muzzlebreak/flash hider before importing to the UK as Sec 1? |
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Posted: 8/25/2006 6:54:01 AM EDT
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Yes - if you could find someone to do it and then sort all the paperwork to export it.
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Posted: 8/27/2006 7:42:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2006 8:15:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2006 8:47:25 AM EDT
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Just a little wishlist.. |
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Posted: 8/27/2006 8:52:46 AM EDT
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Try wishing in one hand and shitting in the other and see which one gets full first.
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Posted: 8/27/2006 9:12:48 AM EDT
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  That pic is a collection of toys of someone I know in the US. I like that 9mm shortie with supressor. |
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