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Posted: 8/16/2004 4:27:42 AM EST
I got this emailed to me this morning. From what I understand, the signature counting is done. But here's a look at what the other side is doing.

FYI, my apologies for the formatting. It was forwarded a number of times and there are carrot ends all over the place.

I bolded one or two areas-- interesting that they wanted to hide. I think it proves they're not interested in checking signatures; they want to DERAIL.

Mike


Re: CALL TO ACTION: and keep Prop 200 off the
> ballot
> > > Kat Rodriguez <kat@derechoshumanosaz.net>
> > > wrote:Please forward to anyone and everyone you
> > know
> > that
> > > might be able to spare some time to verify
> > > signatures. This is a VITAL part to this
> fight—if
> > we
> > > can keep Prop 200 off of the ballot, we can
> claim
> > > victory here and now over this horrible
> > initiative!
> > >
> > > Subject: CALL TO ACTION: and keep Prop 200 off
> the
> > > ballot
>
> > > CALL TO ACTION!!!
> >
> > > Help check Prop 200 petition signatures! There’s
> a
> > > chance that we can keep Prop 200 off the
> November
> > > ballot if we come together and check
> signatures!!!
> >
> > > Please volunteer your time.
>
> > > Friday, August 13th
> > >
> > > Quaker Meeting House
> > >
> > > 931 N. 5th Ave
>
> > > 12 noon—We will be holding a training.
>
> > > If you can come earlier in the morning, please
> > > come-- Luis Avila who is holding the petition
> > > checking in Phoenix will be holding an earlier
> > > training at the Meeting House.
> >
> > > Questions:
> > >
> > > JeAnne Reyes- 623 9141, jreyes@afsc.org
>
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > JeAnne Reyes
> > > Margot Veranes
> > >
> > > American Friends Service Committee
> > >
> > > 931 North 5th Avenue
> > >
> > > Tucson, Arizona 85705
> > >
> > > 520.623.9141 telephone
> > >
> > > 520.623.5901 fax
>
> MORE INFORMATION!!! Change of Location---
>
> > Kat Rodriguez <kat@derechoshumanosaz.net>
> > > wrote:Hi Everyone, sorry for contacting you
> > through
> > this
> > > email address. This is JeAnne Reyes from AFSC.
> >
> > > After meeting today at noon with Luis Avila (who
> > is
> > > doing signature checking in Phoenix), we realize
> > it
> > > would be best to do this at a location with
> more
> > > flexible hours and that is less public.
>
> We have
> > > secured a new and more controllable location
> for
> > our
> > > signature checking!
> > >
> > > Very sorry for this confusion if you were
> > directing
> > > volunteers.
> > >
> > > From now on....
> > >
> > > THE LOCATION:
> > >
> > >
> > > Job Path
> > >
> > >
> > > 924 N. Alvernon
> > >
> > >
> > > It's near Speedway and Alvernon
> > >
> > > DATES:
> > >
> > >
> > > AUG 13- 15 (Fri-Sun)
> > >
> > >
> > > 9-5pm for now, but we are hoping to have a
> monitor
> > > on location 24/7
> > >
> > > CONTACTS:
> > >
> > >
> > > Melanie- 205 0875
> > >
> > > Melanie Emerson- 979 1812 (Saturday Afternoon)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your patience. Please direct
> > > volunteers to this location!
> > >
> > > -JeAnne Reyes
> > >
> > >
> > > AFSC
Link Posted: 8/16/2004 3:58:13 PM EST
Help me out. What's prop 200?
Link Posted: 8/16/2004 5:35:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Help me out. What's prop 200?



This'll tell you everything you need to know...

PAN (Protect Arizona Now) 2004 Initiative

Mike
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 8:29:30 PM EST
PAN has overwhelming support in AZ, from both sides of the political spectrum (Dems and Repubs). Last I checked, it had about 70% support and will probably pass EASILY.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 4:43:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By jtb33:
PAN has overwhelming support in AZ, from both sides of the political spectrum (Dems and Repubs). Last I checked, it had about 70% support and will probably pass EASILY.



It needs to GET to vote first-- that's what these groups are trying to do.

In addition, some service worker's union is challenging the validity of ALL signatures gathered by everybody because THREE individual signature gatherers weren't AZ residents.

So-- yeah, it will pass IF it gets to vote and IF it isn't derailed first in court.

This is NOT a slam dunk.

Mike
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 5:05:23 AM EST
Can the picture id to vote this bill wants be compared to a national id card?
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 7:52:13 PM EST

Can the picture id to vote this bill wants be compared to a national id card?



They want the voter to produce an AZ Dl or AZ ID card to vote, IF one cannot be produced you will STILL cast a ballot BUT they WILL confirm you eligibility status before "counting" it.

Voter fraud IS a huge issue, I for one am not happy about someone voting that is not eligible, or someone w/ multiple registrations.

I am not happy about showing ID to do anything, but if we do not try to nip this in the bud we are gonna be screwed on a LOT more issues in the very near future.

Biggame223

Out
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:36:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By DMG2FUN:
Can the picture id to vote this bill wants be compared to a national id card?



Naw-- driver's license. Biggame223's right on the money here.

Mike
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 8:55:23 AM EST

Can the picture id to vote this bill wants be compared to a national id card?





If we dont do something now you will eventully get a national ID regardless........it will just be in spanish.
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