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Posted: 12/30/2005 9:39:16 PM EDT
I went there today to price a lower ($315) and see if they had any 50 caliber ammo (they did, bought a box).
Some guy who came in at the same time asked to see a rifle, and the guy behind the counter said some really insulting stuff about tirekickers and asked the guy if he was actually looking to buy that rifle for $2300. I didn't want to point out that the tag right under it said $1300, but I'm certain that guy just cemented my not returning to pick up a Bushmaster lower (or anything else). Had I been that guy, I would have just left. I have no idea why he stayed. The staff at Wade's is less rude. I know, I know, not possible, right? No, it's possible. The guy that helped me was great, but his partner needs a change in attitude. Hate to break it to him, but he works retail. Tirekickers are part and parcel of the deal. I took TGIK to Wade's to show him how various firearms function; I made it clear to the guy behind the counter I was just showing TGIK how stuff worked and they were OK with it. Guess that's why I've bought so many firearms at Wade's: they treat everyone like a customer until they prove otherwise. |
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They must go to the same tea parties as the guys from Fed Way Discount guns.
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Someone mentioned Mo the other day. Assclown award winner. |
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Interesting information.I'm new to shooting and have been scoping out different shops. I have been meaning toget up to Kirkland to find the shop. The guys at Wade's have been helpful and patient, but I haven't bought from them yet.
On the other hand, I work about 200 yards from Champion Arms and they have been very nice. The range is having teething problems, but it works for me. And the S&W and Kimber that I bought there are working out very nicely as well. |
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I've never had a sales guy at either Wades or Discount Guns get wankish with me. When I stopped by Discount Guns to look at Eotech sights, the guy I talked to invited me to check out the view through one they had on a rifle. Hopefully the rude sales guy won't last. |
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Same here...theyve always been patient even when I kick the tires (which is often). OTOH I don't always kick the tires either...there's no fun in that and its just not natural.
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I kicked tires and then bought a PTR 91 up at Discount Gun Sale, I was treated great.......guys were all super nice.
Also always been treated well by Discount Guns in Federal Way. |
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WOW! I am amazed. I have found the guys at Discount Gun Sales in Kirkland to be top notch. They are my local gun store of choice by far.
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I have never had a problem with any of the guys at Discount guns and have always been treated like a king whenever I walk through there doors. I would call the owner/Frank and let Him know what happend. Crap like that will drive customers away and could sink His shop.
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I purchased my 1st and 2nd AR15s from discount gun sales...and they were always great....
I really like what they did with the store expansion too. Still my shop of choice... |
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+1 on giving Frank a call, they have always treated me very well. |
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Yes it will, there isn't enough markup on firearms to allow jackass sales staff to work at the store. |
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Which one is he? I've only been there a couple times, an do remember some bloody rude fool, but I don't any names. |
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I have never had an issue at Federal Way Discount Guns and have made many purchases there. They have the best prices around by far. |
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Same here. Mo was pretty courteous to me & I've had good experience w/ them thus far. Disappointing to hear that others haven't. The owner once told me that he was considering taking a group of interested customers down to '06 SHOT w/ dealer passes as his 'crew', on some sort of package trip deal or something, which I thought was rather cool of him. What's going on w/ them? |
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Thats the one. He acted like that the firsttime Iw ent in there years ago. I think I have stopped inthere twice since, but cant get that out of my head. I know at least one other member here who has major frequent flier miles with him, and has issues. Hopefully he will check in. I thought the Discount up in Kirkland was a Dealer here. |
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Is Wades generally pretty good? I haven't been there yet, I do know one of the employees, not sure what he does there.
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I like the guys at Discount guns...I'm really curious to get a description of who you had problems with.
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Wades is expensive and the help is generally in the last stages of testosterone poisoning. That said, they have a large selection and have run everyone else (WSI) out of business - so they're clearly doing something right. Good for them! |
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There were three guys behind the counter. This guy was taller than the other two. I don't remember his physical description, and I'm not going back to find out. |
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When i was shopping around for my first AR someone told me to stop into Wades in Bellevue just to look at a larger selection and then go to Discount Guns in Kirkland to buy. I went to Discount and was treated horrrible. I was a manager of a retail chain a few years ago and was very disappointed to see their lack of customer service, especially while dealing with a customer that was going to be leaving with a rifle for 1k+. I ended up going back to Wades and purchasing my first AR from them. I dealt with a guy named Rick who has been awesome every single time i have gone in there, and highly recommend dealing with him. I did however go back into Discount again one day, and was again treated with less than stellar customer service. I dont know if this has to do with the fact that im only 21 or what. But one thing that i have learned is you can never judge a book by its cover.
I have had a lot of sales people loose sales because they thought i was just a kid, including my first car purchase at Lexus. The sales manager ended up loosing a sale on a brand new IS300 because he said he didnt have time to go on a test drive unless i for sure wanted to buy the car. The next day i went back in, walked right by him, and picked up the youngest sales person in there and gave him the sale! Oh and......The older guy at Discount is the Owner Frank.....and then he has his two sons working there....the younger one who is 19 is Brett and i dont know the other ones name. |
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which one's Mo? |
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I just have to tack this one, and I promise I will any time I hear Mo's name mentioned.
Mo Sucks. Fed Way Disct Guns eats. I bought my first few handguns there, back when his sister was working behind the counter. After he sold me a defective pistol and told me to pack sand, he's lost out on over a decade of my business and anyone else's who I can inform. (Granted, he's still in business so PT Barnum to him, but he hasn't leveraged into a shooting facility either.) |
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The older taler brother is Frank Jr. |
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Mo is Federal way Discount guns. in federalway Frank is Discount Gun Sales in Kirkland |
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I'm sorry you've had such a rotten experience with Wade's. I'd like to relate two of my experiences with them, not to counter your claims, but to show you the other side of the coin. I'd wager to guess that my experiences, while not common, are probably more common than the negative ones you had. 1. I had a Colt 14.5" barrel that I wanted a flash hider permanently attached by welding. I brought it up to Wade's, who's gunsmith at the time (Dave Helton) did this kind of work at home, where he had his welding setup. He had orignally told me that it would take two weeks. I was invited to an informal shoot in the mean time, something that I wanted to use this barrel for. I called Wade and asked him if he could rush the job for me. He said that it was a bit out of his hands, soley for the reason of Dave having to do the job from home. He'd ask Dave, but couldn't make any promises. To my surprise, Dave, through Wade, not only got the job done a week early, but when I went to pick it up, not only was the job well done, but when it came time to pay for it, they only charged me for the cost of the flash hider, the labor was free! I'm not sure why or how, but I was happy none the less. 2. At the same show at WAC, a good friend of mine looked through that same stack of SKS rifles. We were there early in the morning, before the general public came in. My tables were already set up, so we went over to look through Wade's stuff. He had yet to get the ties on all of his guns, so we took the opportunity to eyeball each gun, then tied them off for him. My friend, asked Wade if he'd give him the "good guy" price on one of these guns, as he wanted to give it to his son for Christmas. Wade asked him a few questions about his kid, focusing mainly on the kids interest in shooting sports. Wade must have heard the right answers, as the good guy price turned out to be "you can just have it"! That didn't top his generosity, as later in the afternoon we went back over to Wade's table to thank him for the gun. While standing there BS'ing, the Marine taking Toys-for-Tots donations came by. Without skipping a beat, without making a scene, without expecting a pat on the back, Wade pulled out $100 and dropped it in the jug. He then asked the guy if he could come back by at the end of the show, as his family had purchased, wrapped, and marked a few toys, ready for delivery to one of the TfT's recipients. For a guy that gets his fair share of bad press, I'm impressed with him. I'd be shocked if any gun store or range in the state has as horifically huge overhead costs, yet he still shares the wealth. After seeing him drive a 10YO Chevy with close to 200K miles on it, I'd guess that he's not calling in Brinks to take home the loot everyday. |
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right but there are 3-4 emps there, which one is Mo? |
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We do these gunstore thread a few times a year or so.
I have never set foot in the Kirkland store. I already said what happened in Fed Way. I bought a Membership to Wades when I first go there. When it came time for renewal, they subtracted the amount of the Annual from a lifetime. Sold. I have been in that store a lot. All gunstores attract all kinds of people to work there. I have seen changes in Wades through the years. The guys who were real assholes are no longer there. And even the worst asshole I ever remember there, pales in comparison to Kesslerings everyday gunside manner or Fed Way. You cant treat people like shit in Bellevue and stay in business. |
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Well Stokes glad things worked out a little different for you. As for the Gunsmith, if he is the same one that wrecked my front sight, I still wouldn't let him touch my stuff. The whole reason I brought my Gold Cup to Wades is because I thought they would do the job right, I could have messed up my gun myself and stil been $50.00 ahead. If it is, go ahead and tell him about this, I know I let anybody know who wants gunsmithing work done about it. That and my gunshow experience, I'm sorry, Wade's has lost all my respect, I'll gladly take my money elsewhere.
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I wouldn't let Dave Helton touch (let alone look at or point toward) any of my guns. One of the funniest things I've heard Dave say is that HE introduced IDPA shooting to the area....yeah...sure he didn't.
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You said the K word. Those guys redefine assclowns. |
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Ah Kesselrings, home of "Hellooo, I have the stuff I want to buy in one hand, and cash in the other, why am I being ignored?"
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I've given up there a couple times. Put the stuff back and left. That was when I live up in B'ham and usually I could get whatever I was looking for at Yeagers. Not the biggest selection, but at least the guys at the gun counter weren't jerks. And at times they've had ok prices. A Bushy M4 with rails for only $940. Sold before I had the money to buy though unfortunately. I've usually gone to Bullseye. Not the greatest prices, but I haven't ran into an assclown there yet. Every employee that I've met seems ok, and they try to act like know it alls usually. And to agree with Tweak, there are like 4 employees at Fed Way, which one of them is Mo? |
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I've never had a problem at Federal Way with Mo but he has been a total ass hat to other people when I've been there.he
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You should spend your money at the gunshows, we have some very ARFCOM friendly table holders.
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This would be funny if it wasn't so true. Only place I've ever seen a less than 25% Winchester Model 12 priced at $1200. "What's so special about this one? Looks like a field model from the early 60's." "It's a commerative model." |
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I called Kesselrings the week before Christmas to ask about their EOTech selection. The guy transfered me to their "law enforcement" number for some reason and no one ever picked up. Sent them email: no reply. If it hadn't have been pushing Christmas, I think I would've gone for that shop down by Fort Lewis. Ended up buying in Kirkland because they've been OK by me, |
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Mo (Mohammed) is the middle-eastern looking guy. |
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This is a frustrating world.
I can deal with attitudes, don't like them, but I'll tolerate it if they are capable individuals. I also believe everyone has bad days and sometimes employees are misunderstood(?). OK, some flexibility for everyone, but... Gun shops aren't the only places. Transmission shops and anywhere else that performs a service often do crappy work. Yes, capable people exist... I better stop here before I begin unloading many issues I'm carrying about work and people. |
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