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Posted: 1/3/2005 4:33:41 PM EDT
Thought I just heard on king 5 that the chief left his sidearm in his car... and it was stolen. IE is acting up and I can't get on king website to confirm. Anybody else heard this?
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 4:38:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2005 4:39:38 PM EDT by JAFO]
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 4:51:18 PM EDT
but if my car gets broken into and my glock 26 gets stolen, I am a irresponsible gun owner...............
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 5:36:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bigscrun:
but if my car gets broken into and my glock 26 gets stolen, I am a irresponsible gun owner...............



And, you'll be the target of a lawsuit if that gun is used in a crime.
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 5:41:12 PM EDT
Great example to set for the troops.
The Chief of Police wandering around unarmed, while his G26 sits unsecured in his cop car.
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 5:47:37 PM EDT
friggin dipshit
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 6:12:19 PM EDT
+1
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 7:06:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 7:08:25 PM EDT
Ya think Girly-Cowski still has the one bullet in his shirt pocket?

Railgun....
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 7:26:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 7:29:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2005 7:30:51 PM EDT by bigern]
This ain't good news for the Chief.  Kind of embarrassing I'd bet.  
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 8:24:49 PM EDT
at least he still has his water pistol
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 8:28:32 PM EDT
what if this sh*t happen right in front of a police station?  HERE

I WOULD RATHER GET A METAL IF I GOT THE GUN
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 8:38:55 PM EDT
mutha freeker wasn't even on a fishing trip.
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 8:48:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 9:32:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JAFO:
Seattle Police Chief's Service Pistol Stolen



Whitcomb said the value of the gun makes the case a felony.




What?  Wouldn't stealing a gun of ANY value make it a felony?  How stupid....
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 9:37:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Scollins:

Originally Posted By JAFO:
Seattle Police Chief's Service Pistol Stolen



Whitcomb said the value of the gun makes the case a felony.




What?  Wouldn't stealing a gun of ANY value make it a felony?  How stupid....



You could steal a cheap pistol ( I think under $150 ) and it is 'Petty Theft' a misdeamenor.

Steal a pistol in excess $150 value and it becomes 'Grand Larceny' - a felony.

Link Posted: 1/3/2005 10:55:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By StrkAliteN:

Originally Posted By Scollins:

Originally Posted By JAFO:
Seattle Police Chief's Service Pistol Stolen



Whitcomb said the value of the gun makes the case a felony.




What?  Wouldn't stealing a gun of ANY value make it a felony?  How stupid....



You could steal a cheap pistol ( I think under $150 ) and it is 'Petty Theft' a misdeamenor.

Steal a pistol in excess $150 value and it becomes 'Grand Larceny' - a felony.




Nope, all firearm theft is a Felony in WA.

RCW 9A.56.300

And the Felony/Misd break is $250...
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 10:59:47 PM EDT
In Canada, the chief would be guilty of a criminal offense, punishable by up to 5 yrs in jail.
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 11:17:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bpd_p379:

Originally Posted By StrkAliteN:

Originally Posted By Scollins:

Originally Posted By JAFO:
Seattle Police Chief's Service Pistol Stolen



Whitcomb said the value of the gun makes the case a felony.




What?  Wouldn't stealing a gun of ANY value make it a felony?  How stupid....



You could steal a cheap pistol ( I think under $150 ) and it is 'Petty Theft' a misdeamenor.

Steal a pistol in excess $150 value and it becomes 'Grand Larceny' - a felony.




Nope, all firearm theft is a Felony in WA.

RCW 9A.56.300

And the Felony/Misd break is $250...



Thanks  bpd_p379

I stand corrected - no law degree here .... I was merely speculating to the best of my ability
Link Posted: 1/3/2005 11:38:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:08:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By StrkAliteN:

Originally Posted By bpd_p379:

Originally Posted By StrkAliteN:

Originally Posted By Scollins:

Originally Posted By JAFO:
Seattle Police Chief's Service Pistol Stolen



Whitcomb said the value of the gun makes the case a felony.




What?  Wouldn't stealing a gun of ANY value make it a felony?  How stupid....



You could steal a cheap pistol ( I think under $150 ) and it is 'Petty Theft' a misdeamenor.

Steal a pistol in excess $150 value and it becomes 'Grand Larceny' - a felony.




Nope, all firearm theft is a Felony in WA.

RCW 9A.56.300

And the Felony/Misd break is $250...



Thanks  bpd_p379

I stand corrected - no law degree here .... I was merely speculating to the best of my ability hr


Gotta put out good info to the people!
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:03:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 7:47:34 AM EDT
i bet they actually try to catch guy who stole his gun unlike if mine was stolen they just tell me sorry and take a report like that means anything
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:03:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By StrkAliteN:
You could steal a cheap pistol ( I think under $150 ) and it is 'Petty Theft' a misdeamenor.



Maybe if you steal a Lorcin or a Jennings or a Raven or something, it's not really a gun.  
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:14:42 PM EDT
Quit making fun of Barny and Gomer. They are brain surgens compared to "flood the streets with AK47's" Gil Girly-kowski.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 3:14:30 PM EDT
I'm off to look if chief pussnuts has EVER pushed for, signed onto, written favorably, appeared in  support of, or so much as had a wet dream about any sort of trigger lock, mandatory storage or other lock up your safety law.




CCRKBA OFFERS $500 REWARD FOR SEATTLE POLICE
CHIEF'S STOLEN HANDGUN, ARREST OF THIEF

For Immediate Release:
Contact:  Alan Gottlieb or Joe Waldron (425) 454-4911


BELLEVUE, WA - The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear
Arms (CCRKBA) is offering a $500 reward for information leading to the
arrest and conviction of a thief who stole Seattle Police Chief Gil
Kerlikowske's sidearm from his car on a downtown Seattle street Dec. 26,
and recovery of the gun.

"As it stands right now," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, "Chief
Kerlikowske has put more guns on the street than the sunsetting of the
so-called 'assault weapon' ban. Law-abiding gun owners who are
frequently criticized by the anti-gun media over alleged incidents of
careless storage absolutely want the chief's pistol recovered, and the
thief prosecuted."

Added CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron, "Statistics show that a
significant number of guns that end up being used in crimes are stolen
from law-abiding citizens. Whether it's a firearm stolen in a
residential burglary, a rifle taken from a gun shop or a pistol taken
from a police chief's car, the criminal is responsible for any harm
caused with that gun, not the victim of the theft."

Gottlieb and Waldron hope the offer of a reward will encourage someone
to step forward and identify the thief, or at least offer information
that results in the recovery of Chief Kerlikowske's pistol. The handgun
is identified as a 9mm Glock Model 26. Seattle Police officers are
issued .40-caliber Glock sidearms.

"The irony here," Gottlieb observed, "is that many gun control fanatics
have declared the 9mm to be the preferred weapon of choice for street
gangs, and now there is just one more of them on the street, obviously
in criminal circulation. The truth is that criminals use any gun they
can get their hands on. It's not the caliber of the firearm, but the
character of the person using it that makes the difference."

"There are no good guns or bad guns," Waldron concurred. "There are just
good people and bad ones. It's against the law to break into someone
else's car and steal what's inside. The law didn't stop a thief, and one
more law won't stop some thug who may think about using that stolen gun
in a crime. The chief's gun was taken in broad daylight. We want it
back, and that's why we're offering this reward."


With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens
Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of the nation's
premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the
Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through
active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots
organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the
United States.

Link Posted: 1/4/2005 7:37:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2005 7:39:33 PM EDT by JAFO]
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 7:50:29 PM EDT
He seems to have some size twelve leather shoe stuck in his throat right about now!

Imagine the fallout if the gun IS used in some crime. I sure hope some responsible person turns in the creep who ripped off the unattended firearm!

Railgun....Nice work JAFO!
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 8:11:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 8:31:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2005 8:33:30 PM EDT by JAFO]
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 11:04:52 PM EDT
I didn't realize that it was legal to keep an unsecured (locked), loaded HG in a car whenever not in the immediate possession of an individual w/ CPL.
Link Posted: 1/5/2005 9:25:12 PM EDT
CCRKBA OFFERS $500 REWARD FOR SEATTLE POLICE
CHIEF'S STOLEN HANDGUN, ARREST OF THIEF

For Immediate Release:
Contact: Alan Gottlieb or Joe Waldron (425) 454-4911

BELLEVUE, WA - The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear
Arms (CCRKBA) is offering a $500 reward for information leading to the
arrest and conviction of a thief who stole Seattle Police Chief Gil
Kerlikowske's sidearm from his car on a downtown Seattle street Dec. 26,
and recovery of the gun.

"As it stands right now," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, "Chief
Kerlikowske has put more guns on the street than the sunsetting of the
so-called 'assault weapon' ban.


Law-abiding gun owners who are
frequently criticized by the anti-gun media over alleged incidents of
careless storage absolutely want the chief's pistol recovered, and the
thief prosecuted."

Added CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron, "Statistics show that a
significant number of guns that end up being used in crimes are stolen
from law-abiding citizens. Whether it's a firearm stolen in a
residential burglary, a rifle taken from a gun shop or a pistol taken
from a police chief's car, the criminal is responsible for any harm
caused with that gun, not the victim of the theft."

Gottlieb and Waldron hope the offer of a reward will encourage someone
to step forward and identify the thief, or at least offer information
that results in the recovery of Chief Kerlikowske's pistol. The handgun
is identified as a 9mm Glock Model 26. Seattle Police officers are
issued .40-caliber Glock sidearms.

"The irony here," Gottlieb observed, "is that many gun control fanatics
have declared the 9mm to be the preferred weapon of choice for street
gangs, and now there is just one more of them on the street, obviously
in criminal circulation. The truth is that criminals use any gun they
can get their hands on. It's not the caliber of the firearm, but the
character of the person using it that makes the difference."

"There are no good guns or bad guns," Waldron concurred. "There are just
good people and bad ones. It's against the law to break into someone
else's car and steal what's inside. The law didn't stop a thief, and one
more law won't stop some thug who may think about using that stolen gun
in a crime. The chief's gun was taken in broad daylight. We want it
back, and that's why we're offering this reward."

UPDATE:

NEWS RELEASE

CCRKBA UPS REWARD OFFER FOR
SEATTLE CHIEF'S GUN, ARREST OF THIEF

For Immediate Release:
Contact: Alan Gottlieb or Joe Waldron (425) 454-4911

BELLEVUE, WA - Overnight public response to a reward offer by the
Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) has
allowed the gun rights organization to up the reward to $1,000 for
information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person who stole
a loaded 9mm pistol from Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske's
department vehicle Dec. 26, and recovery of the gun.

"Thanks to the gun rights community," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan
Gottlieb, "we're able to literally double our original reward offer in
this case. Gun owners have stepped up to the plate in support of police
efforts to find the thief and recover that pistol. We hope this reward
will lead to the arrest and conviction of the thief, and return of the
chief's pistol."

The gun was stolen from Kerlikowske's car in broad daylight while the
chief was reportedly doing some after-Christmas shopping with members of
his family. There has been no explanation why Kerlikowske left the
pistol, a 9mm Glock Model 26, which he obtained shortly after taking
over as police chief, in the unmarked vehicle rather than carry it with
him.

"Within hours after we announced the reward offer," said CCRKBA
Executive Director Joe Waldron, "the gun rights community responded.
What's ironic about this is that the gun control lobby is nowhere to be
seen in this effort. We're the ones who are putting our money where our
mouths are, to get a firearm out of obviously the wrong hands.

"The kind of response we expect from the anti-gun crowd to this sort of
high-profile crime," Waldron continued, "would be to have a bill filed
in Olympia that sets some ridiculous 'one-size-fits-all' safe-storage
standard for responsible gun owners. They don't need to be reminded
about the hazards of leaving a loaded gun in a car on a downtown Seattle
street, and they don't need to be held responsible for that, either."

"We're serious about this reward," Gottlieb stated. "The longer that
stolen gun is in circulation, the more likely it is to be involved in a
crime. Remember the off-duty King County deputy who killed a man in 2002
who apparently tried to shoot him? The man he killed was reportedly
armed with a stolen pistol. We want to find Kerlikowske's gun, and the
thief who took it, and get them both off the street."
Link Posted: 1/5/2005 9:29:43 PM EDT
Two words come to mind--Keystone Kops. . . or was that Krispy Kreme?

Could they get Officer Barbrady to replace Chief Girlyman?


hy.gif
Link Posted: 1/5/2005 10:20:42 PM EDT
This just in........


Chief gun grabber overlord left his friggin car unlocked.



He will be getting a phone call in the morning!!!!!




Link Posted: 1/6/2005 2:57:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/6/2005 2:57:30 AM EDT by redmenace]

Chief gun grabber overlord left his friggin car unlocked.


If he did then i believe he commited a crime.

RCW 9.41.050
(2): A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (a) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (b) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (c) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.
Link Posted: 1/6/2005 4:07:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By redmenace:

Chief gun grabber overlord left his friggin car unlocked.


If he did then i believe he commited a crime.

RCW 9.41.050
(2): A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (a) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (b) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (c) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.



I thought all the Concealed Carry Permit laws were aimed at the "Citizen" and the "Law Enforcement" was exempt from the laws as written. I could be wrong but I thought thats the way it is. Special exemptions for cops.

Railgun....
Link Posted: 1/6/2005 6:06:58 AM EDT
Does the northwest have the worlds worst cops or what? Tacoma chief stalks and kills own wife, Seattle lets gang members beat people to death and then fails control a sidearm.

Snocounty sheriff 2nd command into child porn, state trooper molesting assualting women when patrolling and on and on it goes.

And they want us to rely on them for the security of the nation? I think not.
Link Posted: 1/6/2005 6:32:48 AM EDT
But all of our dogs seem to be OK!
Link Posted: 1/6/2005 6:49:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 2whiskeyP:
But all of our dogs seem to be OK!



No not really, i know the former trainer of the K-9 units for sno-county, the police dogs bit the officers more often then not as well as chewing up suspects causing a law suit that cost the county thousands and the suspect turn loose.

He is no longer the trainer but once again the NW gets the idiot cop award.
Link Posted: 1/6/2005 6:58:31 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/6/2005 7:12:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JAFO:
...where was it said he left the car unlocked? If that is true then I think some disciplinary action should be taken. What kind of example is this to set for those who enforce and the citizenry?



It was said last night on KING5 news.
Link Posted: 1/6/2005 7:47:36 AM EDT
I never beleive anything king5 says on news. Probably more bs but seriously if he lefted unlocked then he idiot(wait he is already a idiot according to the article)

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By JAFO:
...where was it said he left the car unlocked? If that is true then I think some disciplinary action should be taken. What kind of example is this to set for those who enforce and the citizenry?



It was said last night on KING5 news.

Link Posted: 1/10/2005 5:23:54 PM EDT
New guy here.

I asked Mayor Greg Nickels today (via email on KUOW) to comment on the theft of Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske's pistol.

His response was:  "these things happen" and he "stood by his chief".

Not impressed.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 10:57:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 11:23:43 PM EDT
They're willing to pay $1000 to get the gun back? How much did it cost in the first place? I'm willing to bet that it was less than $1000.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 11:58:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By headpulper:

Originally Posted By bigscrun:
but if my car gets broken into and my glock 26 gets stolen, I am a irresponsible gun owner...............



And, you'll be the target of a lawsuit if that gun is used in a crime.



Funny thing you mention this... In early 2001 I had a Glock 19 and 3 hicaps stolen out of my Jeep.  The Seattle Police came out and took my report,  dusted for finger prints, and snapped some pictures.  About a year later I called the Seattle Police (just for shits and giggles) and asked about my case number.  They then transfer me over to a homicide Det. Ramirez.  At this point I know something is wrong.  He explains to me that the firearm was used in a homicide, and my handgun is being held for evidence.  I asked if I could ever get my gun back.  He acutually seemed shocked that I would ask for it back and stated it would have to be held incase there was ever an appeal by the defendent.  I said, "Oh, that sounds like along time", his reply was "yeah, more like never"...  I should call them again on it and see if I can get it back.  
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:34:13 AM EDT
Maybe i'm confused, our police chief, girl-kowski neglects to lock the vehicle he left his taxpayer purchased, loaded firearm in. It is subsequently stolen, arming yet another wrong- doer and is immune to prosecution for this careless, possibly lethal act? BUT us NRA type whackos should turn in our implements of destruction to further the UN and allow law enforcement to protect us? MY PRESIDENT, Charlton Heston had it right , FROM MY COLD,DEAD, HANDS!
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