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Posted: 9/17/2009 7:03:22 PM EST
Howdy y'all.

I'm gonna be in Virginia next month for a wedding, and have a couple questions about reciprocity and such. Does your state honor the Texas CHL? Any legal issues I should know about? Knives, longguns, etc?

Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:31:58 PM EST
http://www.usconcealedcarry.com/public/402.cfm

Should answer some of your questions. David
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 9:38:52 PM EST
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/downloads/2005%20Summary%20of%20Virginia%20Firearms%20L­aws.pdf

An important issue that is sometimes unknown by out-of-staters is that you cannot carry a concealed firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol for on-premises consumption (lots of restaurants fit this description and therefore you must open carry or not carry at all)
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 11:58:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman:
Howdy y'all.

I'm gonna be in Virginia next month for a wedding, and have a couple questions about reciprocity and such. Does your state honor the Texas CHL? YES Any legal issues I should know about? As mentioned before, to be safe I don't carry anywhere that has an alcohol license. Private property is the exception (owners rules) Knives I think we have a 3" blade law. Long guns All good, etc?

Thanks.


Welcome to Virginia, what area will you be in?
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 4:13:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By Arms_Reach:
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman:
Howdy y'all.

I'm gonna be in Virginia next month for a wedding, and have a couple questions about reciprocity and such. Does your state honor the Texas CHL? YES Any legal issues I should know about? As mentioned before, to be safe I don't carry anywhere that has an alcohol license. Private property is the exception (owners rules) Knives I think we have a 3" blade law. Long guns All good, etc?

Thanks.


Welcome to Virginia, what area will you be in?


Only place that specifies a length on the knife is on school property. There if the knife is over 3" it is a crime.

Also a note for the OP. In VA we do not have a standard for signs prohibiting concealed carry like TX does. Meaning any no guns or ghostbuster type signs are notification that concealed carry is not allowed on private property.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:38:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By novaDAK:
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/downloads/2005%20Summary%20of%20Virginia%20Firearms%20L­aws.pdf

An important issue that is sometimes unknown by out-of-staters is that you cannot carry a concealed firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol for on-premises consumption (lots of restaurants fit this description and therefore you must open carry or not carry at all)


Can I open carry, being out of state?

Originally Posted By Arms_Reach:
Welcome to Virginia, what area will you be in?


Virginia Beach, VA

Originally Posted By VaFish:
Only place that specifies a length on the knife is on school property. There if the knife is over 3" it is a crime.

Also a note for the OP. In VA we do not have a standard for signs prohibiting concealed carry like TX does. Meaning any no guns or ghostbuster type signs are notification that concealed carry is not allowed on private property.


What is defined as private property? All private homes? Or only if the owner of said private property says no.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 6:41:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman:
Originally Posted By novaDAK:
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/downloads/2005%20Summary%20of%20Virginia%20Firearms%20L­aws.pdf

An important issue that is sometimes unknown by out-of-staters is that you cannot carry a concealed firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol for on-premises consumption (lots of restaurants fit this description and therefore you must open carry or not carry at all)


Can I open carry, being out of state?

Originally Posted By Arms_Reach:
Welcome to Virginia, what area will you be in?


Virginia Beach, VA

Originally Posted By VaFish:
Only place that specifies a length on the knife is on school property. There if the knife is over 3" it is a crime.

Also a note for the OP. In VA we do not have a standard for signs prohibiting concealed carry like TX does. Meaning any no guns or ghostbuster type signs are notification that concealed carry is not allowed on private property.


What is defined as private property? All private homes? Or only if the owner of said private property says no.


Private is anything not owned by government, at any level (state, county, city, town, village, etc.).

All that really happens is that if you are asked to leave and refuse you can be charged with trespassing.

ALL Virginia lethal force law is case (common) law.
We have NO statute law defining how and when lethal force may be used.

If you are going to carry here, be sure you understand when you can use lethal force.

This is the Virginia concealed handgun statute

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308


Brandishing IS a crime in Virginia.
http://law.justia.com/virginia/codes/toc1802000/18.2-282.html

§ 18.2-282. Pointing, holding, or brandishing firearm, air or gas operated weapon or object similar in appearance; penalty.

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to point, hold or brandish any firearm or any air or gas operated weapon or any object similar in appearance, whether capable of being fired or not, in such manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another or hold a firearm or any air or gas operated weapon in a public place in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another of being shot or injured. However, this section shall not apply to any person engaged in excusable or justifiable self-defense. Persons violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor or, if the violation occurs upon any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds or upon public property within 1,000 feet of such school property, he shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony.

B. Any police officer in the performance of his duty, in making an arrest under the provisions of this section, shall not be civilly liable in damages for injuries or death resulting to the person being arrested if he had reason to believe that the person being arrested was pointing, holding, or brandishing such firearm or air or gas operated weapon, or object that was similar in appearance, with intent to induce fear in the mind of another.

C. For purposes of this section, the word "firearm" means any weapon that will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel single or multiple projectiles by the action of an explosion of a combustible material. The word "ammunition," as used herein, shall mean a cartridge, pellet, ball, missile or projectile adapted for use in a firearm.

(Code 1950, § 18.1-69.2; 1968, c. 513; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1990, cc. 588, 599; 1992, c. 735; 2003, c. 976; 2005, c. 928.)


You might want to at least look through 'The Virginia gun Owner's Guide.'

Some local PDs do not have a clear understanding of the law.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 8:46:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman:

What is defined as private property? All private homes? Or only if the owner of said private property says no.



Sorry I think I'm confusing you.

I'm pretty sure that Texas has a standard for no guns signs, IIRC it's the 30-06 sign that specifies how big the sign has to be, what color, ect. if the sign doesn't meet that spec you can't be charged with carrying a concealed weapon into the property. VA is not like that.

Private Property owners such as a restaurant, shopping mall, or even a residence can post any type of sign or tell you in person not to bring a gun onto their property.


Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:16:04 PM EST
Open carry is legal.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:46:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By novaDAK:
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/downloads/2005%20Summary%20of%20Virginia%20Firearms%20L­aws.pdf

An important issue that is sometimes unknown by out-of-staters is that you cannot carry a concealed firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol for on-premises consumption (lots of restaurants fit this description and therefore you must open carry or not carry at all)


Almost correct.....

You cannot carry a handgun concealed into a restaurant or club that serves alcohol for on premises consumption. The Code of Virginia defines what a restaurant or club is. Let's say that you went to a baseball game at the Tides Stadium in Norfolk. The beer vendors that you see in the hallways have an ABC license as a "concession stand", so concealed carry would be perfect legal there....just an example.

There are about a dozen ABC license types where concealed carry is perfectly legal, winery, banquet facility, concession stand, etc. You can go to the ABC website and search a particular facility to see what their license designation is..
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:48:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By voodochild:
Open carry is legal.


Yep, even for out of staters. As long as you can legally possess the handgun you're good to go.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:49:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By GlockSergeant:
Originally Posted By novaDAK:
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/downloads/2005%20Summary%20of%20Virginia%20Firearms%20L­aws.pdf

An important issue that is sometimes unknown by out-of-staters is that you cannot carry a concealed firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol for on-premises consumption (lots of restaurants fit this description and therefore you must open carry or not carry at all)


Almost correct.....

You cannot carry a handgun concealed into a restaurant or club that serves alcohol for on premises consumption. The Code of Virginia defines what a restaurant or club is. Let's say that you went to a baseball game at the Tides Stadium in Norfolk. The beer vendors that you see in the hallways have an ABC license as a "concession stand", so concealed carry would be perfect legal there....just an example.

There are about a dozen ABC license types where concealed carry is perfectly legal, winery, banquet facility, concession stand, etc. You can go to the ABC website and search a particular facility to see what their license designation is..


yes that's true. Another place that has ABC licenses includes supermarkets that sample wines to customers. Wegman's is one.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 3:23:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By novaDAK:
Originally Posted By voodochild:
Open carry is legal.


Yep, even for out of staters. As long as you can legally possess the handgun you're good to go.


In bars?
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 5:28:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman:
Originally Posted By novaDAK:
Originally Posted By voodochild:
Open carry is legal.


Yep, even for out of staters. As long as you can legally possess the handgun you're good to go.


In bars?


Virginia doesnt have bars (technically) but the places you would consider bars in other states, yes you must carry openly in those here in Va.
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