User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 8/9/2014 7:35:20 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
.....thinking of taking it to deer camp this year with my FUDD relatives at Chickasawhatchee near Albany... GTG? I say yes gtg. Keep track of the laws for your own sake though. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/9/2014 7:43:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I say yes gtg. Keep track of the laws for your own sake though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
.....thinking of taking it to deer camp this year with my FUDD relatives at Chickasawhatchee near Albany... GTG? I say yes gtg. Keep track of the laws for your own sake though. Source? I didn't think the DNR has ruled on this yet???? I hope I am wrong. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/9/2014 8:24:05 PM EDT
[#3]
So far the regs say private property with the owner's permission. I haven't seen anything about public land yet.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/10/2014 3:35:35 AM EDT
[#4]
WMAs fall under the DNR, and according to one local warden, it is up to the individual warden.
I am sure that the individual warden will be directed by the higher ups at the DNR. So get on the phones and emails, and contact the State DNR and make your voices heard. Great strides were made in getting the bill passed, but do not give up. The whole permission things needs to be done away with, and with pressure it can be done. Rich |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/10/2014 4:40:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So far the regs say private property with the owner's permission. I haven't seen anything about public land yet. This is my understanding as well. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/10/2014 4:53:37 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is my understanding as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
So far the regs say private property with the owner's permission. I haven't seen anything about public land yet. This is my understanding as well. Did some digging around online. Like you said, the hunting regs for this year only address private property. Guess I will leave the can at home and not risk getting "permission" from some warden over the phone. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/10/2014 5:54:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Game warden permission is a crap idea .
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/10/2014 9:57:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Game warden permission is a crap idea . +1 |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 8:32:12 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Game warden permission is a crap idea . Yup. Pretty dumb. Tired of govt. permission slips. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 8:42:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Just downloaded the new hunt regs pdf. The word suppressor only appears twice:
• Suppressors: Lawfully possessed suppressors may be used for hunting
on private property. Permission of the landowner is required. So no suppressors on WMAs is my interpretation, regardless of DNR permission. Regs PDF here. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 9:47:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just downloaded the new hunt regs pdf. The word suppressor only appears twice: So no suppressors on WMAs is my interpretation, regardless of DNR permission. Regs PDF here. I unfortunately came to the same conclusion. WMA isn't private property and the DNR was presumably strongly against hunting with suppressors to begin with so they won't find in our favor. My property actually borders a WMA and I can walk to my hunting spot, but I am rejoining a club down the road mainly so I can hunt with a suppressor this year. It sounds like there is still work to be done to get this officially expanded to public land. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 9:56:37 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I say yes gtg. Keep track of the laws for your own sake though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .....thinking of taking it to deer camp this year with my FUDD relatives at Chickasawhatchee near Albany... GTG? I say yes gtg. Keep track of the laws for your own sake though. What does that even mean? How can you endose an action as GTG without even knowing the law? This is the type of "advice" that gets people in all sort of trouble, to include arrest and prosecution. And the game warden will not be impressed when someone says "but arfcom said I was gtg!". Here is the actual law. (9) The use of silencers or suppressors for hunting within this state is prohibited; provided, however, that a silencer or suppressor may be used for hunting on the private property of the person using such silencer or suppressor, on private property for which the owner of such property has provided verifiable permission to the person using such silencer or suppressor, and on public lands in areas designated by the department. (b) (1) It shall be illegal to use a silencer or suppressor for hunting in violation of paragraph (9) of subsection (a) of this Code section. A person who violates the provisions of this paragraph shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (2) The hunting privileges of any person who has been convicted of violating the provisions of this title or any rule or regulation promulgated pursuant thereto by hunting without landowner permission, hunting in an area that is closed for hunting, or hunting big game out of season or at night with a firearm equipped with a suppressor shall be suspended for three years. It would seem to be a reasonable ASSUMPTION that DNR has declined to make any public lands "designated", interpreting the 2014-15 hunting booklet. But the only way to know for sure would be to call DNR and ask.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 10:36:44 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
What does that even mean? How can you endose an action as GTG without even knowing the law? This is the type of "advice" that gets people in all sort of trouble, to include arrest and prosecution. And the game warden will not be impressed when someone says "but arfcom said I was gtg!". Here is the actual law. (9) The use of silencers or suppressors for hunting within this state is prohibited; provided, however, that a silencer or suppressor may be used for hunting on the private property of the person using such silencer or suppressor, on private property for which the owner of such property has provided verifiable permission to the person using such silencer or suppressor, and on public lands in areas designated by the department. (b) (1) It shall be illegal to use a silencer or suppressor for hunting in violation of paragraph (9) of subsection (a) of this Code section. A person who violates the provisions of this paragraph shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (2) The hunting privileges of any person who has been convicted of violating the provisions of this title or any rule or regulation promulgated pursuant thereto by hunting without landowner permission, hunting in an area that is closed for hunting, or hunting big game out of season or at night with a firearm equipped with a suppressor shall be suspended for three years. It would seem to be a reasonable ASSUMPTION that DNR has declined to make any public lands "designated", interpreting the 2014-15 hunting booklet. But the only way to know for sure would be to call DNR and ask. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
.....thinking of taking it to deer camp this year with my FUDD relatives at Chickasawhatchee near Albany... GTG? I say yes gtg. Keep track of the laws for your own sake though. What does that even mean? How can you endose an action as GTG without even knowing the law? This is the type of "advice" that gets people in all sort of trouble, to include arrest and prosecution. And the game warden will not be impressed when someone says "but arfcom said I was gtg!". Here is the actual law. (9) The use of silencers or suppressors for hunting within this state is prohibited; provided, however, that a silencer or suppressor may be used for hunting on the private property of the person using such silencer or suppressor, on private property for which the owner of such property has provided verifiable permission to the person using such silencer or suppressor, and on public lands in areas designated by the department. (b) (1) It shall be illegal to use a silencer or suppressor for hunting in violation of paragraph (9) of subsection (a) of this Code section. A person who violates the provisions of this paragraph shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (2) The hunting privileges of any person who has been convicted of violating the provisions of this title or any rule or regulation promulgated pursuant thereto by hunting without landowner permission, hunting in an area that is closed for hunting, or hunting big game out of season or at night with a firearm equipped with a suppressor shall be suspended for three years. It would seem to be a reasonable ASSUMPTION that DNR has declined to make any public lands "designated", interpreting the 2014-15 hunting booklet. But the only way to know for sure would be to call DNR and ask. I posted that before the updated regs came out. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 10:48:55 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
What does that even mean? How can you endose an action as GTG without even knowing the law? This is the type of "advice" that gets people in all sort of trouble, to include arrest and prosecution. And the game warden will not be impressed when someone says "but arfcom said I was gtg!". Here is the actual law. (9) The use of silencers or suppressors for hunting within this state is prohibited; provided, however, that a silencer or suppressor may be used for hunting on the private property of the person using such silencer or suppressor, on private property for which the owner of such property has provided verifiable permission to the person using such silencer or suppressor, and on public lands in areas designated by the department. (b) (1) It shall be illegal to use a silencer or suppressor for hunting in violation of paragraph (9) of subsection (a) of this Code section. A person who violates the provisions of this paragraph shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (2) The hunting privileges of any person who has been convicted of violating the provisions of this title or any rule or regulation promulgated pursuant thereto by hunting without landowner permission, hunting in an area that is closed for hunting, or hunting big game out of season or at night with a firearm equipped with a suppressor shall be suspended for three years. It would seem to be a reasonable ASSUMPTION that DNR has declined to make any public lands "designated", interpreting the 2014-15 hunting booklet. But the only way to know for sure would be to call DNR and ask. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
.....thinking of taking it to deer camp this year with my FUDD relatives at Chickasawhatchee near Albany... GTG? I say yes gtg. Keep track of the laws for your own sake though. What does that even mean? How can you endose an action as GTG without even knowing the law? This is the type of "advice" that gets people in all sort of trouble, to include arrest and prosecution. And the game warden will not be impressed when someone says "but arfcom said I was gtg!". Here is the actual law. (9) The use of silencers or suppressors for hunting within this state is prohibited; provided, however, that a silencer or suppressor may be used for hunting on the private property of the person using such silencer or suppressor, on private property for which the owner of such property has provided verifiable permission to the person using such silencer or suppressor, and on public lands in areas designated by the department. (b) (1) It shall be illegal to use a silencer or suppressor for hunting in violation of paragraph (9) of subsection (a) of this Code section. A person who violates the provisions of this paragraph shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (2) The hunting privileges of any person who has been convicted of violating the provisions of this title or any rule or regulation promulgated pursuant thereto by hunting without landowner permission, hunting in an area that is closed for hunting, or hunting big game out of season or at night with a firearm equipped with a suppressor shall be suspended for three years. It would seem to be a reasonable ASSUMPTION that DNR has declined to make any public lands "designated", interpreting the 2014-15 hunting booklet. But the only way to know for sure would be to call DNR and ask. I think you are right. The lack of wording regarding state land worries me, phone approval or not. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 10:55:16 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just downloaded the new hunt regs pdf. The word suppressor only appears twice: So no suppressors on WMAs is my interpretation, regardless of DNR permission. Regs PDF here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just downloaded the new hunt regs pdf. The word suppressor only appears twice: • Suppressors: Lawfully possessed suppressors may be used for hunting
on private property. Permission of the landowner is required. So no suppressors on WMAs is my interpretation, regardless of DNR permission. Regs PDF here. Aren't laws usually meant to restrict actions rather than grant them? Shouldn't that mean that we are allowed because they are not strictly forbidding it? |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 12:24:26 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Aren't laws usually meant to restrict actions rather than grant them? Shouldn't that mean that we are allowed because they are not strictly forbidding it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Just downloaded the new hunt regs pdf. The word suppressor only appears twice: • Suppressors: Lawfully possessed suppressors may be used for hunting
on private property. Permission of the landowner is required. So no suppressors on WMAs is my interpretation, regardless of DNR permission. Regs PDF here. Aren't laws usually meant to restrict actions rather than grant them? Shouldn't that mean that we are allowed because they are not strictly forbidding it? Interesting angle here. State code would seemingly apply to state property no? |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 3:09:59 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't laws usually meant to restrict actions rather than grant them? Shouldn't that mean that we are allowed because they are not strictly forbidding it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just downloaded the new hunt regs pdf. The word suppressor only appears twice: • Suppressors: Lawfully possessed suppressors may be used for hunting on private property. Permission of the landowner is required. So no suppressors on WMAs is my interpretation, regardless of DNR permission. Regs PDF here. Aren't laws usually meant to restrict actions rather than grant them? Shouldn't that mean that we are allowed because they are not strictly forbidding it? It IS strictly forbidden, with exceptions. Exception one: on private property Exception two: On state land that the DNR approves. The DNR apparently approves no state land. Thus, hunting on state land with silencers is forbidden (at this moment in time).
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 3:26:47 PM EDT
[#18]
I am not arguing with you because I believe you are correct, but where it is strictly forbidden? In the GA state law or the hunting regs?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 5:32:49 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I am not arguing with you because I believe you are correct, but where it is strictly forbidden? In the GA state law or the hunting regs? The regs are written directly from the OCGA |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 5:45:49 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I posted that before the updated regs came out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
.....thinking of taking it to deer camp this year with my FUDD relatives at Chickasawhatchee near Albany... GTG? I say yes gtg. Keep track of the laws for your own sake though. What does that even mean? How can you endose an action as GTG without even knowing the law? This is the type of "advice" that gets people in all sort of trouble, to include arrest and prosecution. And the game warden will not be impressed when someone says "but arfcom said I was gtg!". Here is the actual law. (9) The use of silencers or suppressors for hunting within this state is prohibited; provided, however, that a silencer or suppressor may be used for hunting on the private property of the person using such silencer or suppressor, on private property for which the owner of such property has provided verifiable permission to the person using such silencer or suppressor, and on public lands in areas designated by the department. (b) (1) It shall be illegal to use a silencer or suppressor for hunting in violation of paragraph (9) of subsection (a) of this Code section. A person who violates the provisions of this paragraph shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (2) The hunting privileges of any person who has been convicted of violating the provisions of this title or any rule or regulation promulgated pursuant thereto by hunting without landowner permission, hunting in an area that is closed for hunting, or hunting big game out of season or at night with a firearm equipped with a suppressor shall be suspended for three years. It would seem to be a reasonable ASSUMPTION that DNR has declined to make any public lands "designated", interpreting the 2014-15 hunting booklet. But the only way to know for sure would be to call DNR and ask. I posted that before the updated regs came out. I was in a class with a DNR Ranger on Thursday. He said as of right now there are NO public lands designated for supressors yet. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 6:13:12 PM EDT
[#21]
Thanks to everyone in this thread. Looks like the post above has me leaving the can at home.
Oh well, should still be fun with the 10" blackout this year. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2014 6:54:19 PM EDT
[#22]
I asked and got the following response on the GA DNR facebook page here: https://www.facebook.com/gadnrle/posts/393338280818370
For those that don't have Facebook: Question: "I see in the new regulations that just came out for 2014-2015 that there is no mention of hunting with suppressors of WMA land specifically. The new law that was passed allows for use on private property with landowner permission and "and on public lands in areas designated by the department." Does that mean that DNR is not going to allow hunting with suppressors on public WMA land? Thanks for any clarification you can provide." Response: "That is correct. Unless a WMA is specifically designated as such, you cannot use a suppressor on it. I can't speak as to what might happen in the future, but if it is a concern to you I would encourage you to come to any of the public meeting held around the state regarding the hunting regulations and voice your opinion. And Happy Hunting!" Sounds like its a solid "no". Feel free to let them know what you think on the link above or on their page. I certainly intend to light up phone lines and let my opinion be known. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/12/2014 6:11:16 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I asked and got the following response on the GA DNR facebook page here: https://www.facebook.com/gadnrle/posts/393338280818370 For those that don't have Facebook: Question: "I see in the new regulations that just came out for 2014-2015 that there is no mention of hunting with suppressors of WMA land specifically. The new law that was passed allows for use on private property with landowner permission and "and on public lands in areas designated by the department." Does that mean that DNR is not going to allow hunting with suppressors on public WMA land? Thanks for any clarification you can provide." Response: "That is correct. Unless a WMA is specifically designated as such, you cannot use a suppressor on it. I can't speak as to what might happen in the future, but if it is a concern to you I would encourage you to come to any of the public meeting held around the state regarding the hunting regulations and voice your opinion. And Happy Hunting!" Sounds like its a solid "no". Feel free to let them know what you think on the link above or on their page. I certainly intend to light up phone lines and let my opinion be known. Yep. I am afraid the FUDD is strong with them. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/12/2014 6:33:12 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yep. I am afraid the FUDD is strong with them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I asked and got the following response on the GA DNR facebook page here: https://www.facebook.com/gadnrle/posts/393338280818370 For those that don't have Facebook: Question: "I see in the new regulations that just came out for 2014-2015 that there is no mention of hunting with suppressors of WMA land specifically. The new law that was passed allows for use on private property with landowner permission and "and on public lands in areas designated by the department." Does that mean that DNR is not going to allow hunting with suppressors on public WMA land? Thanks for any clarification you can provide." Response: "That is correct. Unless a WMA is specifically designated as such, you cannot use a suppressor on it. I can't speak as to what might happen in the future, but if it is a concern to you I would encourage you to come to any of the public meeting held around the state regarding the hunting regulations and voice your opinion. And Happy Hunting!" Sounds like its a solid "no". Feel free to let them know what you think on the link above or on their page. I certainly intend to light up phone lines and let my opinion be known. Yep. I am afraid the FUDD is strong with them. Actually you would be surprised. Most of the Rangers I know have zero issue with suppressors being used. I think most of the issues are at the top. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/12/2014 6:51:24 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Actually you would be surprised. Most of the Rangers I know have zero issue with suppressors being used. I think most of the issues are at the top. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I asked and got the following response on the GA DNR facebook page here: https://www.facebook.com/gadnrle/posts/393338280818370 For those that don't have Facebook: Question: "I see in the new regulations that just came out for 2014-2015 that there is no mention of hunting with suppressors of WMA land specifically. The new law that was passed allows for use on private property with landowner permission and "and on public lands in areas designated by the department." Does that mean that DNR is not going to allow hunting with suppressors on public WMA land? Thanks for any clarification you can provide." Response: "That is correct. Unless a WMA is specifically designated as such, you cannot use a suppressor on it. I can't speak as to what might happen in the future, but if it is a concern to you I would encourage you to come to any of the public meeting held around the state regarding the hunting regulations and voice your opinion. And Happy Hunting!" Sounds like its a solid "no". Feel free to let them know what you think on the link above or on their page. I certainly intend to light up phone lines and let my opinion be known. Yep. I am afraid the FUDD is strong with them. Actually you would be surprised. Most of the Rangers I know have zero issue with suppressors being used. I think most of the issues are at the top. I'd believe that. The folks in the field tend to relate better to hunters, vs the higher ups in the city. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/12/2014 7:35:18 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not arguing with you because I believe you are correct, but where it is strictly forbidden? In the GA state law or the hunting regs? There is no conflict in state law vs what the rulebook says, but if there were ever a conflict I'm going to err on the side of the OCGA.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/12/2014 11:43:16 AM EDT
[#27]
Who should we contact about this? Since it's an election year, I'm willing to bet the old Fudds at the DNR/Gov's office will be more receptive than usual.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/12/2014 12:36:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who should we contact about this? Since it's an election year, I'm willing to bet the old Fudds at the DNR/Gov's office will be more receptive than usual. Your elected reps first of all. You can also attend one of these and voice your opinion, perhaps. http://www.georgiawildlife.com/node/3679
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
