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Posted: 3/24/2005 1:24:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 3:11:59 AM EDT by long-rifle-tactical]
Applied for Ammunition manufacturing FFL and the check was cashed yesterday, so by past experience I would give it an eta of June or July.

So, sometime in the near future Virginia shooters will have a supply of .223 and 308 ammunition, Also I will offer match grade ammo and hunting hand loads.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 2:35:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 4:25:31 AM EDT
Great news.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 4:31:47 AM EDT
As long as your local zoning is OK, you shouldn't have a problem.

Once you get your license, shoot me an email, I have several 5 gallon buckets of brass that I thought I would have time to reload but never did.

Steve.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 4:59:53 AM EDT
I have some nice .308 brass that I would trade toward reloads. Let me know if you need some brass.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 5:04:33 AM EDT
Mark, Ill take a Nato spec 556 load with sealed primers and bullets using 77grn SMK's for $200 per K please
And a 168grn 762 using the same...........UDOG
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 6:20:08 AM EDT
Man you just opened up a can of worms didn't you.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 6:34:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Man you just opened up a can of worms didn't you.



He sure did, now he gets to find out what it's like to sell dollars bills for 25 cents.




Link Posted: 3/24/2005 7:38:26 AM EDT
You've got me spun up! What type of ammo are we talking about?

77gr SMKs?
168gr SMKs?

Thanks
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 7:57:36 AM EDT
You make it, they will come......

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out from everywhere like termites to a woodpile.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 8:05:24 AM EDT
.....
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 8:53:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hallmark_Ent:

Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Man you just opened up a can of worms didn't you.



He sure did, now he gets to find out what it's like to sell dollars bills for 25 cents.







Geeezzz, i said Please
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 1:27:43 PM EDT
What kind of reloading press are you going to use? Dillon 1050 or something else? Are you trying to sell alot of bulk or just special reloads?

Link Posted: 3/24/2005 1:53:19 PM EDT
When talking last weekend (or was it the weekend before?) he said he was going to use Dillon 1050s.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 2:01:37 PM EDT
Cleaning my A4gery as we speak, getting it ready for some some MK262 clone ammo.

L-R-T loads our .338 LM and with 300gr Sierra MatchKings HPBT has shot .5" at 200yds, and we didn't even the the worshipped 'barrel breakin' on this rifle. Did do it on the .50 and will be loading some soon. I want to load some 750gr AMAX loads and try them at 1000yds at Quantico.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 2:07:27 PM EDT
Congrats!

Lemme axe you sumfin......

What kind of insurance is required/necessary to become a ammo manufacturer?

I've thought many time about wanting to load an sell high end "match" and hunting ammo for rifles right here in my spare room at home.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 2:21:38 PM EDT
GReat, now we have to worry about his trembeling hands dropping double loads!!!!

I need some .32 ACP!!!!
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 2:23:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2005 2:24:17 PM EDT by grywlf52]

Originally Posted By Hydguy:
GReat, now we have to worry about his trembeling hands dropping double loads!!!!

I need some .32 ACP!!!!



Who's renovating his bench to accept his walker? Or is the loader a tactical add-on.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 2:37:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By grywlf52:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:
GReat, now we have to worry about his trembeling hands dropping double loads!!!!

I need some .32 ACP!!!!



Who's renovating his bench to accept his walker? Or is the loader a tactical add-on.


He's getting a special bench that is low enough that he can use it from a wheelchair. All profit from the ammunition manufacturing is going towards paying 'Miss Betty' to push him around the house.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 3:53:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hallmark_Ent:
As long as your local zoning is OK, you shouldn't have a problem.

Once you get your license, shoot me an email, I have several 5 gallon buckets of brass that I thought I would have time to reload but never did.

Steve.



Here is the irony about zoning in my area, they refused to sign off for my 01 transfer to the house due to density in my area since I hand to have files and office as you know, they told me if I could not have an office they would approve it.

The same man approved my other FFL since I told him no foot traffic or office in the house, he sighed off and said thanks for going thru the legal process.


So to do this I will have to either meet the folks off the property or ship to them, I cannot explain the zoning any better since it is confusing as Chinese mathematics.


That brass would get you deep discounts as long as it is clean and not deformed.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 3:54:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DamonL:
I have some nice .308 brass that I would trade toward reloads. Let me know if you need some brass.



I will offfer brass swaps as a discounts towards reloads.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 3:55:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Man you just opened up a can of worms didn't you.



Negative!

I am tired of seeing others raped for third choice ammo.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 3:57:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dayglo:
You've got me spun up! What type of ammo are we talking about?

77gr SMKs?
168gr SMKs?

Thanks



My loads will vary from pull down reloads to first class hand spun loads, will complete the list sometime next week for what I will start out with and will adjust to demands.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 4:00:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 7:
What kind of reloading press are you going to use? Dillon 1050 or something else? Are you trying to sell alot of bulk or just special reloads?




Dillon 1050 that will be here some time at the end of april, I am having Dillon set the dies for specific bullets and loads. Said and done I will have 7 sets of dies for just .223 and .308.

All the match loads will be one at a time on the RCBS press that I load the .338 .308 and 50bmg on, all the hand loads wil be done with match dies.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 4:01:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By txgp17:
Congrats!

Lemme axe you sumfin......

What kind of insurance is required/necessary to become a ammo manufacturer?

I've thought many time about wanting to load an sell high end "match" and hunting ammo for rifles right here in my spare room at home.



I will have 3 different types of insurance, depends on your State laws and agent, basic is as your agent would advise.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 4:02:21 PM EDT
Tagged ......'cuz I got lots of once fired Black Hills .308 brass and I need some more
ammo for my bolt rifle.



Link Posted: 3/24/2005 4:03:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:

Originally Posted By grywlf52:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:
GReat, now we have to worry about his trembeling hands dropping double loads!!!!

I need some .32 ACP!!!!



Who's renovating his bench to accept his walker? Or is the loader a tactical add-on.


He's getting a special bench that is low enough that he can use it from a wheelchair. All profit from the ammunition manufacturing is going towards paying 'Miss Betty' to push him around the house.



Send her over!

Oh wait, may have to cancel that idea since the Mrs. may get wise to her.
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 5:54:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:

Originally Posted By grywlf52:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:
GReat, now we have to worry about his trembeling hands dropping double loads!!!!

I need some .32 ACP!!!!



Who's renovating his bench to accept his walker? Or is the loader a tactical add-on.


He's getting a special bench that is low enough that he can use it from a wheelchair. All profit from the ammunition manufacturing is going towards paying 'Miss Betty' to push him around the house.



Send her over!

Oh wait, may have to cancel that idea since the Mrs. may get wise to her.



Hell, the Mrs. shouldn't have anything to worry about with you in your condition!!!

Link Posted: 3/24/2005 6:40:06 PM EDT





And to think afplyboy was worried about getting on you. [DOH]
Link Posted: 3/24/2005 7:29:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2005 7:30:17 PM EDT by Hoplophile]

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:
Oh wait, may have to cancel that idea since the Mrs. may get wise to her.


Hell, the Mrs. shouldn't have anything to worry about with you in your condition!!!


Link Posted: 3/25/2005 12:29:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:
Oh wait, may have to cancel that idea since the Mrs. may get wise to her.


Hell, the Mrs. shouldn't have anything to worry about with you in your condition!!!


www.e-marketinglab.com/viagra.jpg




Link Posted: 3/25/2005 5:57:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:
Oh wait, may have to cancel that idea since the Mrs. may get wise to her.


Hell, the Mrs. shouldn't have anything to worry about with you in your condition!!!


www.e-marketinglab.com/viagra.jpg



THat would be a waste...by the time it started working, he would forget what to use the results for!!!
Link Posted: 3/25/2005 6:15:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:
Oh wait, may have to cancel that idea since the Mrs. may get wise to her.


Hell, the Mrs. shouldn't have anything to worry about with you in your condition!!!


www.e-marketinglab.com/viagra.jpg



THat would be a waste...by the time it started working, he would forget what to use the results for!!!



Yeah he is past that "some-timers" phase.
Link Posted: 3/25/2005 8:27:54 AM EDT
And a double tag, I've got bunches of LC 5.56 brass waiting.....
Link Posted: 3/25/2005 5:06:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:
Oh wait, may have to cancel that idea since the Mrs. may get wise to her.


Hell, the Mrs. shouldn't have anything to worry about with you in your condition!!!


www.e-marketinglab.com/viagra.jpg



THat would be a waste...by the time it started working, he would forget what to use the results for!!!



Use for what????
Link Posted: 3/25/2005 5:07:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By grywlf52:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:

Originally Posted By Hydguy:

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:
Oh wait, may have to cancel that idea since the Mrs. may get wise to her.


Hell, the Mrs. shouldn't have anything to worry about with you in your condition!!!


www.e-marketinglab.com/viagra.jpg



THat would be a waste...by the time it started working, he would forget what to use the results for!!!



Yeah he is past that "some-timers" phase.




Have to take notes next time
Link Posted: 3/28/2005 10:52:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2005 10:58:06 AM EDT by Banzai]

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:
I will offfer brass swaps as a discounts towards reloads.



Woooo Hooooo....I got 900 PMC 308 and 1000 assorted military 308 available for trade in! IM or email if you're interested!

Tom
Link Posted: 5/7/2005 12:06:11 PM EDT
Here's some feedback on L-R-Ts loads. This was his 55gr Ballistip Tip (TAP replica)


9x19 shot this group at 25yds, 30 rounds into roughly 1/2" or less from her M4gery. This was at the NRA Range off their wobbly ass tables. Need to try off their better non-moving bench.


Link Posted: 5/7/2005 2:30:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gotm4:
Here's some feedback on L-R-Ts loads. This was his 55gr Ballistip Tip (TAP replica)
img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/6b465669.jpg

9x19 shot this group at 25yds, 30 rounds into roughly 1/2" or less from her M4gery. This was at the NRA Range off their wobbly ass tables. Need to try off their better non-moving bench.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Picture013.jpg



It dont count when you touch the barrel to the paper.

Looks good.
Link Posted: 5/7/2005 3:09:38 PM EDT
Guess its time to start saving my brass
Link Posted: 5/7/2005 6:05:12 PM EDT
Tagged, as I'm going to need some .308 Match for the new boltgun......
Link Posted: 5/8/2005 1:20:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tanker06:
Tagged, as I'm going to need some .308 Match for the new boltgun......



That will be easy to do since I load match .308 often, just will need the specs on your rifle so I know what may work aincw no two rifles shoot the same.

Link Posted: 5/8/2005 11:58:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:

Originally Posted By Tanker06:
Tagged, as I'm going to need some .308 Match for the new boltgun......


That will be easy to do since I load match .308 often, just will need the specs on your rifle so I know what may work aincw no two rifles shoot the same.


Well, it's a Savage 10FP-LE, that also happens to be a pre Accu-Trigger model. They must have
changed over right after this one was made. It's still in the box, and I still haven't picked up a base,
rings or optic for it. (I think that the trigger is a bit rough, which I've heard is a Savage trait. Can you
touch that up, or know a good man to point me to?)

I did some computer work for a guy, and he offered it to me in lieu of cash payment. For what I had
done, I felt like I was ripping him off, and told him so, but he said that it was just taking up space,
and that I'd make better use of it than he. I wasn't going to argue too much!
Link Posted: 5/9/2005 11:58:43 AM EDT
tag

Guess i need to start saving my brass.
Link Posted: 5/9/2005 2:32:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:

Originally Posted By Tanker06:
Tagged, as I'm going to need some .308 Match for the new boltgun......



That will be easy to do since I load match .308 often, just will need the specs on your rifle so I know what may work aincw no two rifles shoot the same.




Oh so true. I need to show you the targets I got with your loads. Sorry no pics. Haven't measured the groups yet either. Hey I am busy over here. Let me know when you are at the NRA range and I will swing over and hand the stuff over.
Link Posted: 5/9/2005 3:59:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By grywlf52:

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:

Originally Posted By Tanker06:
Tagged, as I'm going to need some .308 Match for the new boltgun......



That will be easy to do since I load match .308 often, just will need the specs on your rifle so I know what may work aincw no two rifles shoot the same.




Oh so true. I need to show you the targets I got with your loads. Sorry no pics. Haven't measured the groups yet either. Hey I am busy over here. Let me know when you are at the NRA range and I will swing over and hand the stuff over.



Roger that

So how did it do?

The green tip were 150 grain TAP clones and the BTHP 175 grain was loaded for 1000 yards.


Please post the results since I need input for everyone even if it looks like buckshot.

Link Posted: 5/9/2005 6:28:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:

Originally Posted By grywlf52:

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:
Originally Posted By Tanker06:
snip



snip




Roger that

So how did it do?

The green tip were 150 grain TAP clones and the BTHP 175 grain was loaded for 1000 yards.


Please post the results since I need input for everyone even if it looks like buckshot.


150's were just over 2.5". The 175's were a little wider (3.5" but my barrel is a 1 in 12 and not ???? fast/slow???? enough for 175's. It likes the 125-165 range. Though out of a 6 lb rifle the 175's left an impression

Also take note that I should have taken a more stable target holder. I shot at Hite Hollow and the wind was up causing havoc on the fence and wire. So I would not hold much weight with those results. I know both the rifle and myself are up for better. I also shot some of my ADI which I know will hold sub MOA and it was a 2" group as well.

Bad shooting day+high wind+ wobbling target holder= INCONCLUSIVE results. I will not put the blame on these loads under these conditions.
Link Posted: 5/9/2005 6:50:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By grywlf52:

150's were just over 2.5". The 175's were a little wider (3.5" but my barrel is a 1 in 12 and not ???? fast/slow???? enough for 175's. It likes the 125-165 range. Though out of a 6 lb rifle the 175's left an impression

Also take note that I should have taken a more stable target holder. I shot at Hite Hollow and the wind was up causing havoc on the fence and wire. So I would not hold much weight with those results. I know both the rifle and myself are up for better. I also shot some of my ADI which I know will hold sub MOA and it was a 2" group as well.

Bad shooting day+high wind+ wobbling target holder= INCONCLUSIVE results. I will not put the blame on these loads under these conditions.



175gr and above works best in 1x10 (fast twist barrels).
Link Posted: 5/10/2005 4:27:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gotm4:

175gr and above works best in 1x10 (fast twist barrels).



Knew it was something. Just couldn't remember which way it went. The rifle in question was my Win 70 Lightweight carbine. The only adjustments it has had in the last 20 years was to float the barrel and adjust the trigger down to 2.5-3 lbs. Some of my handloads are three shot touching groups with 125's and 150's at 100 yards. For an out of the box gun, I cannot complain.
Link Posted: 5/10/2005 5:28:37 AM EDT
Well, according to their info, the 10FP has a 1x10 barrel, so the 175gr will work. Hmmmm.......
Link Posted: 5/10/2005 5:46:05 AM EDT
Tagged...

fantastic... consider me a customer!

Here is what I would like...

A lot of range/economy mil spec grade grade, similar to XM193 and lesser amounts of 75 gr or 77 gr TAP grade

thanks!
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