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Posted: 1/22/2014 9:05:43 AM EDT
Just got my assignment and will be arriving in April to work as a Active Duty guy with the Army Reserves.
Yall have a welcome FAQ for Florida Rednecks? Anyone know the Long Beach/Los Alimitos area? I would prefer living outside of the sprawl so where are good places to commute from? My wifes family is there so I should be good to go, just wanted to consult with the hive. I have a ton of guns as well.... I know some stuff will have to stay home... Anyone have a summary? I will have to re-read the CA gun FAQ a few times but from what I have gathered I might have to buy bullet buttons and shit soon. Below is a summary if anyone wants to que me up. I have all standard cap mags for my pistols. And im sure my 30 round ar mags will have to stay at home. AK47 preban fixed stock AK74 preban fixed stock Polish Tantal preban folding stock 4 M4 type AR15's AR15 configured as a NRA Service Rifle Glock 17 Glock 19 1911's Remington 1100 for 3 gun Beretta 92FS Looks like I can get a active duty military permit to bring a few assault weapons if I can justify it... Permit Paperwork |
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Quoted: Just got my assignment and will be arriving in April to work as a Active Duty guy with the Army Reserves. Yall have a welcome FAQ for Florida Rednecks? Anyone know the Long Beach/Los Alimitos area? I would prefer living outside of the sprawl so where are good places to commute from? My wifes family is there so I should be good to go, just wanted to consult with the hive. View Quote How far are you willing to drive? Have you looked at a map of LA recently?
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_11/212690_and_9733California_Firearms_and_Weapons_Primer___check_here_for_CA_weapons_laws_pleaseand_9733.html FAQ The down and dirty is no mags over 10 rds unless possessed before 2000. No threaded barrels on pistols. Any off list lowers or guns semi autos will have to be featureless or have bullet buttons. There are some exemptions for AWs and military members but Paul would have to help fill you in with those as he knows how to go about it. I'm not sure if military are required to register their firearms within 60 days like civilians who move into the state. Commuting will suck balls no matter where you are. You will have to head out to the inland empire to get away from living in the big city. The problem is you are looking at a 60 minute or more commute during regular business hours to the Long beach area depending on where you live out there. You may try around Torrance or San Pedro for housing but be prepared for sticker shock on rentals. I don't know much about the area south of long beach. Orange county may have some areas. |
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Just got my assignment and will be arriving in April to work as a Active Duty guy with the Army Reserves. Yall have a welcome FAQ for Florida Rednecks? Anyone know the Long Beach/Los Alimitos area? I would prefer living outside of the sprawl so where are good places to commute from? My wifes family is there so I should be good to go, just wanted to consult with the hive. How far are you willing to drive? Have you looked at a map of LA recently? BAH is $3000 so hopefully I can find a decent place. My commute was 30 minutes at my last assignment. |
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I welcome another gun owner to California. Long Beach is dead-nutz centered as far away as you can get from anything that isn't "sprawl". |
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Please define "sprawl". Most of that area is tract homes. Most were built in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Are tract homes sprawl?
Please define "BAH"? During rush hour, it is difficult to get very far in 30 minutes. A key strategy is to live in a place which means your commute to work is in the opposite direction from the predominant rush hour traffic pattern. Consider Rossmoor. It's right there next to the base. Seal Beach is just a bit farther south. The type(s) of community you pick is probably dependent mostly upon your lifestyle within your budget. Without that info, it's hard to recommend a location. Use Zillow.com to show you the real estate info ($, size, etc). It's the "Google Earth" of real estate. Set the filters for rentals and a price range. You are renting, at least to start out, correct? Regarding the guns (pistols and rifles) - no magazines over 10 rounds. Period! We need to know the make and model of the receivers to evaluate the M4' and AR's. If they're listed names - no go. If they're not listed, there are options. |
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Quoted: im close to MT.baldy so I wouldn't know what that craziness is like kinda far from long beach though View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I welcome another gun owner to California. Long Beach is dead-nutz centered as far away as you can get from anything that isn't "sprawl". im close to MT.baldy so I wouldn't know what that craziness is like kinda far from long beach though Unless you live in San Antonio Heights (even that is a stretch), you still live in urban sprawl. |
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$3000 will cover rent and utilities in a decent area, barely.
in LB, you are between the ocean and suburbia. anything beyond the sprawl will take hours to commute. so, my advice is, live close, get family time during the week, and be ready, willing, and able to drive on the weekends. there is a LOT of public land and open space, it is just a few hours away from LB. LB has its good parts. like fishing. |
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Can you get into Base Housing at the LA Air Force Station on old Ft. MacArthur in San Pedro? There may still be some military housing at Seal Beach. There are some nice areas in northwest Orange County, in pockets, surrounded by ok to not so nice areas. Commuting from outside sprawl?? not going to happen.
Contact Jeff Smith, at Railmasters Hobbies in Bellflower. IIRC he's one of the First Sgts down there, or was. Also on Bellflower Chamber of Commerce, he's pretty familiar with the area. I live up in Brea and for a while I commuted to the Hughes Raytheon facility at the intersection of the 405 and 710 freeways, and it was around an hour each way usually. I'd take about 15 minutes off at most from here to Los Al. |
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It's been in the low 80's most days for most of the last few months. that's NOT typical. I was going to mention that you're going to be about 2.5-3 hours from the wide open spaces in the desert for shooting. Then again looking at your avatar and location, that might not be that interesting for you.
The LA area has just about everything for everybody but hunting and fresh-water fishing, but as active duty military you do get licenses breaks from DFG. With some selective attention and shopping around, you can get to see some outstanding live theater at a variety of venues at reasonable prices. Even some where the ladies keep their clothes on and don't use poles. If you have kids a lot of interesting museums. Lakers, Clippers, Dodgers, Angels, Kings, Ducks, USC, UCLA |
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Please define "sprawl". Most of that area is tract homes. Most were built in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Are tract homes sprawl? they are the very definition of "sprawl." Let the OP answer. No one else can. It's his move and only his definition that is important. The question was not directed to anyone else and certainly not open season for wise ass answers. Paul, thank you for your response. I suspected as much. It's $3k/month, correct? |
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OP can answer, but if you want only the OP to answer you should have directed your question at him. you did not, which leaves it open season for everybody else, and their answers. why the name calling? I wasn't being a wise-ass, tract homes actually are the definition of sprawl. don't be butt-hurt.
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Let the OP answer. No one else can. It's his move and only his definition that is important. The question was not directed to anyone else and certainly not open season for wise ass answers. Paul, thank you for your response. I suspected as much. It's $3k/month, correct? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Please define "sprawl". Most of that area is tract homes. Most were built in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Are tract homes sprawl? they are the very definition of "sprawl." Let the OP answer. No one else can. It's his move and only his definition that is important. The question was not directed to anyone else and certainly not open season for wise ass answers. Paul, thank you for your response. I suspected as much. It's $3k/month, correct? Sprawl- endless rows of suburbia type houses. Which is what google maps indicates. Commuting seems to be out of the question as mentioned as going a few miles might take half a hour during the wrong times according to what my wifes family indicates. I listed Long Beach as my first choice assuming I wouldnt get it Suprised the shit out of me as I was mentally prepared to go to Texas. I'm still less than a year back from Afghanistan so I guess my career manager decided to give me a break from the "Real" Army. |
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$3000 will cover rent and utilities in a decent area, barely. in LB, you are between the ocean and suburbia. anything beyond the sprawl will take hours to commute. so, my advice is, live close, get family time during the week, and be ready, willing, and able to drive on the weekends. there is a LOT of public land and open space, it is just a few hours away from LB. LB has its good parts. like fishing. View Quote Thanks. The wife has family at Long Beach so they are gonna start scouting places to rent for us. I want to live close but in a decent location. |
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Can you get into Base Housing at the LA Air Force Station on old Ft. MacArthur in San Pedro? There may still be some military housing at Seal Beach. There are some nice areas in northwest Orange County, in pockets, surrounded by ok to not so nice areas. Commuting from outside sprawl?? not going to happen. Contact Jeff Smith, at Railmasters Hobbies in Bellflower. IIRC he's one of the First Sgts down there, or was. Also on Bellflower Chamber of Commerce, he's pretty familiar with the area. I live up in Brea and for a while I commuted to the Hughes Raytheon facility at the intersection of the 405 and 710 freeways, and it was around an hour each way usually. I'd take about 15 minutes off at most from here to Los Al. View Quote I am really not sure about housing so I will look into it. Thanks. My last stateside assignment was in South GA so I opted to live in Savannah and commute half a hour each way. |
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It's been in the low 80's most days for most of the last few months. that's NOT typical. I was going to mention that you're going to be about 2.5-3 hours from the wide open spaces in the desert for shooting. Then again looking at your avatar and location, that might not be that interesting for you. The LA area has just about everything for everybody but hunting and fresh-water fishing, but as active duty military you do get licenses breaks from DFG. With some selective attention and shopping around, you can get to see some outstanding live theater at a variety of venues at reasonable prices. Even some where the ladies keep their clothes on and don't use poles. If you have kids a lot of interesting museums. Lakers, Clippers, Dodgers, Angels, Kings, Ducks, USC, UCLA View Quote Thanks. Its just the wife, the cat, and I. |
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Quoted: Thanks. Its just the wife, the cat, and I. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's been in the low 80's most days for most of the last few months. that's NOT typical. I was going to mention that you're going to be about 2.5-3 hours from the wide open spaces in the desert for shooting. Then again looking at your avatar and location, that might not be that interesting for you. The LA area has just about everything for everybody but hunting and fresh-water fishing, but as active duty military you do get licenses breaks from DFG. With some selective attention and shopping around, you can get to see some outstanding live theater at a variety of venues at reasonable prices. Even some where the ladies keep their clothes on and don't use poles. If you have kids a lot of interesting museums. Lakers, Clippers, Dodgers, Angels, Kings, Ducks, USC, UCLA Thanks. Its just the wife, the cat, and I. If you are open to to a apartment or a condo, you can find a nice place to rent in Long Beach/Seal Beach/ Huntington Beach near the ocean. |
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Thanks for the input all. Below is some random info that you all can trouble shoot. Please pick apart any issues you see.
The goal is to find a 3br 2bath house to rent for around two years. I dont want to purchase. I like to fish, hunt, shoot, ride dirtbikes/sportbikes on track days, play paintball, and drink bourbon. My wife is artsy and has family in the area so she should be happy. I am also secretly plotting to sell my bikes and buy a boat or some shit since I will be close to the ocean. I would like to be able to shoot NRA Service Rifle, F class 1000 yard, Three Gun, and Action pistol type shooting. For the move it will be, My Wife Me One stupid housecat. Vehicles, I am a Florida resident are there out of state vehicle emissions testing or anything? Volkswagen Passat TDI 50mpg diesel Chevy Duramax 2500 diesel pick up 17mpg Suzuki DRZ400 dual sport bike 2 Dirtbikes GSXR600 track bike that still needs a few parts from the last time I highsided. Gun stuff besides what I listed above, 5k rounds 5.56mm 4k rounds 7.62x39mm 10k 5.45x39mm 2k 9mm 1k 45 Various reloading equipment I will try and update this as I come up with stuff. |
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California has some of the best dirt biking in the world but you'll need a truck or a trailer to get to it. Ride in the mountains in the summer, where it's cooler. Ride in the deserts in the winter, where it's warmer.
If suburban housing is to be avoided, you are out of luck with that work assignment. You can go 50 miles in any direction and you will find everything has been developed. My guess is, your best bet is to go to Seal Beach or the surrounding areas. You will pay a premium but the neighborhoods are nice and your commute will be short. This will give you easy access to the Pacific Ocean, if you really want to go boating. There are boat launches available, if you trailer your boat, and also marinas, if you want to keep your boat in the water. |
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California has some of the best dirt biking in the world but you'll need a truck or a trailer to get to it. Ride in the mountains in the summer, where it's cooler. Ride in the deserts in the winter, where it's warmer. If suburban housing is to be avoided, you are out of luck with that work assignment. You can go 50 miles in any direction and you will find everything has been developed. My guess is, your best bet is to go to Seal Beach or the surrounding areas. You will pay a premium but the neighborhoods are nice and your commute will be short. This will give you easy access to the Pacific Ocean, if you really want to go boating. There are boat launches available, if you trailer your boat, and also marinas, if you want to keep your boat in the water. View Quote Rgr all hope of country living was a herpderp moment on my part. I am thinking in terms of Army posts in the middle of nowhere not Army Reserve installations smack dab in the middle of LBC |
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Closest range to LB with any distance is the Angeles Shooting Range.
Also check out Burro Canyon. |
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I looked into F class a few years ago, and IIRC that was done out at the bases in the desert. 3 gun and action are done at several places not all that far away . (not that far away as defined by SoCal standards). Dirt biking and shooting are great out in the desert. The ammunition should be no problem, except and steel cored or steel jacketed. It's pretty damn dry out here and anything that might spark or otherwise light a fire is and rightly so banned at most out door ranges We've had some big fires started by careless shooters and that doesn't help our cause.
An artsy wife, well she'll be in hog heaven around here. |
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Camp Pendleton now hosts 1,000 yard matches. They also do across the course competitions.
I think Piru is the BIG deal when it comes to USPSA, Steel Challenge and action pistol but there are others, too. |
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Thanks. Its just the wife, the cat, and I. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's been in the low 80's most days for most of the last few months. that's NOT typical. I was going to mention that you're going to be about 2.5-3 hours from the wide open spaces in the desert for shooting. Then again looking at your avatar and location, that might not be that interesting for you. The LA area has just about everything for everybody but hunting and fresh-water fishing, but as active duty military you do get licenses breaks from DFG. With some selective attention and shopping around, you can get to see some outstanding live theater at a variety of venues at reasonable prices. Even some where the ladies keep their clothes on and don't use poles. If you have kids a lot of interesting museums. Lakers, Clippers, Dodgers, Angels, Kings, Ducks, USC, UCLA Thanks. Its just the wife, the cat, and I. Palos Verdes area offers the closest "non-sprawl" area that's commutable if you can afford it - you can get property with horse stables. I lived in the Stafford Square area of LB (Bellflower & Spring) '97- '00 and would live there again - it's tract housing but it's a good compromise IMO. Hungry Valley SVRA, Big Bear, Cal City/Jawbone, Stoddard Valley/Johnson Valley are all easy day trips for dirt bike riding. Kennedy Meadows is a bit too far for the day. Check out AMA D37 dualsport website. |
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Gotcha,
I am tracking no steel core and no tracers. Ive got a couple thousand rounds of Yugo M67 ball for my SKS/AK's and a bunch of M193 for my AR's. |
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Steel core is legal, you just may not be allowed to shoot it at some ranges during the summer. Just dont shoot it during fire season.
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Quoted: BAH is $3000 so hopefully I can find a decent place. My commute was 30 minutes at my last assignment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just got my assignment and will be arriving in April to work as a Active Duty guy with the Army Reserves. Yall have a welcome FAQ for Florida Rednecks? Anyone know the Long Beach/Los Alimitos area? I would prefer living outside of the sprawl so where are good places to commute from? My wifes family is there so I should be good to go, just wanted to consult with the hive. How far are you willing to drive? Have you looked at a map of LA recently? BAH is $3000 so hopefully I can find a decent place. My commute was 30 minutes at my last assignment. E9 I take it? I used to draw Los Angeles BAH, COLA & special duty pay. San Diego E7 BAH is currently @ $2,300. Welcome to fixed magazines and no CCW unless you live in the Inland Empire. |
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Some one mentioned Palos Verdes. 3K won't get you anywhere near a 3 bed, 2 bath house here. Someone also mentioned looking into Air Force housing in San Pedro. There are three locations. Two are in very desirable areas with some homes having good sea views. The other, the one located on the former Fort MacArthur has some with nice harbor views, and is just a steps away from the beach, literally. If you can get in any of these, you won't be dissatisfied.
As stated, out of urban sprawl means at least a 90 minutes and more likely 120 minutes drive, and if traffic is heavy, double it. A bad accident, and all bets are off. If you end up living somewhere you need to take freeways, learn the surface streets. I'm constantly amazed just how many folks will just sit on the freeway instead of getting off and taking surface streets. Then again, I'm glad they don't. It would make things worse for me. I don't know what firearms you can bring into the state since you are military. But forget even trying to get a CCW, it just won't happen in just about any county in SoCal. Ranges, as mentioned, the closest is Angeles. Pretty good range, but like all ranges of the type, it has it's share of "special" people. Burro Canyon is very good, but farther to drive. There are quite a few indoor ranges in the area, but they are naturally limited to about 25 yds, and generally no rifles except for maybe .22lr. If you want to get to BLM land that open to shooting, its at least a two hour drive. |
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E9 I take it? I used to draw Los Angeles BAH, COLA & special duty pay. San Diego E7 BAH is currently @ $2,300. Welcome to fixed magazines and no CCW unless you live in the Inland Empire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just got my assignment and will be arriving in April to work as a Active Duty guy with the Army Reserves. Yall have a welcome FAQ for Florida Rednecks? Anyone know the Long Beach/Los Alimitos area? I would prefer living outside of the sprawl so where are good places to commute from? My wifes family is there so I should be good to go, just wanted to consult with the hive. How far are you willing to drive? Have you looked at a map of LA recently? BAH is $3000 so hopefully I can find a decent place. My commute was 30 minutes at my last assignment. E9 I take it? I used to draw Los Angeles BAH, COLA & special duty pay. San Diego E7 BAH is currently @ $2,300. Welcome to fixed magazines and no CCW unless you live in the Inland Empire. O3 with dep. I've pretty much accepted that my gun hobby is going under ground for a while. |
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Steel core is legal, you just may not be allowed to shoot it at some ranges during the summer. Just dont shoot it during fire season. Thanks It was cloudy yesterday. I think you missed winter this year. Thank god. Winter is sucking balls on the east coast right now. |
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Some one mentioned Palos Verdes. 3K won't get you anywhere near a 3 bed, 2 bath house here. Someone also mentioned looking into Air Force housing in San Pedro. There are three locations. Two are in very desirable areas with some homes having good sea views. The other, the one located on the former Fort MacArthur has some with nice harbor views, and is just a steps away from the beach, literally. If you can get in any of these, you won't be dissatisfied. As stated, out of urban sprawl means at least a 90 minutes and more likely 120 minutes drive, and if traffic is heavy, double it. A bad accident, and all bets are off. If you end up living somewhere you need to take freeways, learn the surface streets. I'm constantly amazed just how many folks will just sit on the freeway instead of getting off and taking surface streets. Then again, I'm glad they don't. It would make things worse for me. I don't know what firearms you can bring into the state since you are military. But forget even trying to get a CCW, it just won't happen in just about any county in SoCal. Ranges, as mentioned, the closest is Angeles. Pretty good range, but like all ranges of the type, it has it's share of "special" people. Burro Canyon is very good, but farther to drive. There are quite a few indoor ranges in the area, but they are naturally limited to about 25 yds, and generally no rifles except for maybe .22lr. If you want to get to BLM land that open to shooting, its at least a two hour drive. View Quote Thanks. I've got a few months to figure out where I want to live but the search is on for sure. |
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Thanks. I've got a few months to figure out where I want to live but the search is on for sure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Some one mentioned Palos Verdes. 3K won't get you anywhere near a 3 bed, 2 bath house here. Someone also mentioned looking into Air Force housing in San Pedro. There are three locations. Two are in very desirable areas with some homes having good sea views. The other, the one located on the former Fort MacArthur has some with nice harbor views, and is just a steps away from the beach, literally. If you can get in any of these, you won't be dissatisfied. As stated, out of urban sprawl means at least a 90 minutes and more likely 120 minutes drive, and if traffic is heavy, double it. A bad accident, and all bets are off. If you end up living somewhere you need to take freeways, learn the surface streets. I'm constantly amazed just how many folks will just sit on the freeway instead of getting off and taking surface streets. Then again, I'm glad they don't. It would make things worse for me. I don't know what firearms you can bring into the state since you are military. But forget even trying to get a CCW, it just won't happen in just about any county in SoCal. Ranges, as mentioned, the closest is Angeles. Pretty good range, but like all ranges of the type, it has it's share of "special" people. Burro Canyon is very good, but farther to drive. There are quite a few indoor ranges in the area, but they are naturally limited to about 25 yds, and generally no rifles except for maybe .22lr. If you want to get to BLM land that open to shooting, its at least a two hour drive. Thanks. I've got a few months to figure out where I want to live but the search is on for sure. I mentioned Palos Verdes - before knowing the monthly budget:) I'd try to stay within a 15 mile radius of your work location (basically 605/405 interchange) - that could be a 20 minute commute or it could be over 1 hour depending on the time you leave the house and direction you're going. |
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I've pretty much accepted that my gun hobby is going under ground for a while. why? you just need to drive a little on the weekends. Don't own to much that's Cali legal. Might install a bullet button or two and convert a few mags to 10 rounders but that will be it. |
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