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Posted: 3/6/2005 8:22:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/8/2005 4:46:09 PM EST by motown_steve]
- Blackjacks
- Telescoping Batons
- Billy Clubs
- Switchblades
- Butterfly Knives

I checked through the Texas Weapons code, and I couldn't find anything about tazers. Are they legal in TX?
Link Posted: 3/6/2005 8:30:11 PM EST
only if you get caught....
Link Posted: 3/6/2005 8:44:07 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 3:39:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/7/2005 3:40:12 AM EST by txinvestigator]

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
- Blackjacks
- Telescoping Batons
- Billy Clubs
- Switchblades
- Butterfly Knives



The first 3 are clubs. According to the Texas Penal Code, section 46.02 , A person commits an offense if he intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his person a handgun, illegal knife, or club.

The second two are switchblade knives by Texas Definition


(11) "Switchblade knife" means any knife that has a blade
that folds, closes, or retracts into the handle or sheath, and that:

(A) opens automatically by pressure applied to a button or
other device located on the handle; or

(B) opens or releases a blade from the handle or sheath by
the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force.



§46.05. Prohibited weapons.

(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or
knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs, or sells:

(1) an explosive weapon;

(2) a machine gun;

(3) a short-barrel firearm;

(4) a firearm silencer;

(5) a switchblade knife;




There are exceptions you can find.
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 4:19:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

(B) opens or releases a blade from the handle or sheath by
the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force.




i think that covers just about every "tactical" folder made
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 4:37:29 AM EST
The better questions is which one of those aren't illegal.
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 9:13:15 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 10:42:26 AM EST
So ASP batons are illegal then....that sucks.
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 11:08:20 AM EST
I was under th eimpression you oculd carry a club if you had CCW......... which is somewhat pointless as you cold then carry a firearm.........


and that knife law looks almost identical to ours up here...... Up here we can have a knife that has s thumbstud, so long as the blade does not move under it's own weight when the knife is moved in a closed position. Ohterwise centrifugal force makes it illegal (like butterfly knives and the like)

Most Kershaws are legal up here for some reason, which is good because i like Kershaws
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 5:47:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/7/2005 5:47:50 PM EST by JC_Conn]

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:
So ASP batons are illegal then....that sucks.



Weren't you the one over at the Lightfighter Tactical Forums running off at the mouth about how you whipped out your ASP baton to intimidate someone at work?

lightfighter.net/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/5436084761/m/5901012011


Originally posted by KangarooAR-15:
Interesting day at work today.... last night I caught 2 guys stealing company info and making deals with a competitor. Was here late lasy nite goin thru their computers and documenting the deeds.
Today when one of em came in he was informed of his change in status (terminated) I escorted him out, after handing him his box of shit.
He came back an hour later and I found him in payroll, trying to collect a check.
I asked him to leave, whereupon he decided to get physical.
I carry an impact baton and snapped her out.
Amazing the psychological effect it had.
LOL New shorts were in order.
The ironic thing is that I am not charged with any of these duties at work but somehow the boss picks me.
Those little batons are helpful, used the same one years ago at a gas station with a guy who wanted some cash for free.
Just me ranting, hope it isn't in the wrong forum.



Please don't come over to this forum acting the fool like you did at the Lightfighter forum.

Jeremy


Link Posted: 3/7/2005 5:51:10 PM EST

I was under th eimpression you oculd carry a club if you had CCW


Texas does not have a CCW, only CHL; Concealed Handgun License.

Florida has CCW, as well as a few other states. Texas is only for handguns.
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 5:57:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/7/2005 5:58:27 PM EST by double_r76]

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:
So ASP batons are illegal then....that sucks.



Not to mention the fact that two people from LF.net informed him last week that carrying a baton was illegal. I guess the legal opinions of those people don't count for anything, and he had to come over here and hear it from someone else.

Good luck,
-Randy
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 6:36:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

I was under th eimpression you oculd carry a club if you had CCW


Texas does not have a CCW, only CHL; Concealed Handgun License.

Florida has CCW, as well as a few other states. Texas is only for handguns.



What he is referring to is Texas CHL NONAPPLICABILITY (section 46.15) applies to section 46.02, not handguns per se. So if you have a CHL AND you are carrying it with a valid license, 46.02 does not apply to you.

Not the intent, but that is the law.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 6:55:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By JC_Conn:

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:
So ASP batons are illegal then....that sucks.



Weren't you the one over at the Lightfighter Tactical Forums running off at the mouth about how you whipped out your ASP baton to intimidate someone at work?

lightfighter.net/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/5436084761/m/5901012011


Originally posted by KangarooAR-15:
Interesting day at work today.... last night I caught 2 guys stealing company info and making deals with a competitor. Was here late lasy nite goin thru their computers and documenting the deeds.
Today when one of em came in he was informed of his change in status (terminated) I escorted him out, after handing him his box of shit.
He came back an hour later and I found him in payroll, trying to collect a check.
I asked him to leave, whereupon he decided to get physical.
I carry an impact baton and snapped her out.
Amazing the psychological effect it had.
LOL New shorts were in order.
The ironic thing is that I am not charged with any of these duties at work but somehow the boss picks me.
Those little batons are helpful, used the same one years ago at a gas station with a guy who wanted some cash for free.
Just me ranting, hope it isn't in the wrong forum.



Please don't come over to this forum acting the fool like you did at the Lightfighter forum.

Jeremy





Sounds like you are bragging about your past experiences.
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 7:08:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
- Blackjacks
- Telescoping Batons
- Billy Clubs
- Switchblades
- Butterfly Knives




You can have switchblades, batons, etc.-- for collecting purposes. Carrying them is another story... try carrying a baseball bat at night, down the street. Be sure to bring a baseball glove, ball, and cleats to help prove you have a valid reason to have the bat...

Link Posted: 3/7/2005 7:15:54 PM EST
All you need is a baseball to carry a bat. just make sure you have it.
Link Posted: 3/7/2005 7:23:48 PM EST
Dude! You own a gun. Why the F$&%& are you using a club?
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 4:29:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/8/2005 4:30:51 AM EST by txinvestigator]

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

I was under th eimpression you oculd carry a club if you had CCW


Texas does not have a CCW, only CHL; Concealed Handgun License.

Florida has CCW, as well as a few other states. Texas is only for handguns.



What he is referring to is Texas CHL NONAPPLICABILITY (section 46.15) applies to section 46.02, not handguns per se. So if you have a CHL AND you are carrying it with a valid license, 46.02 does not apply to you.

Not the intent, but that is the law.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm



Not actually. 46.15


Text (b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:



(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license
issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a
concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is
carrying;


So 46.02 DOES apply to a person carrying a club or a knife, even if they have a CHL.

Link Posted: 3/8/2005 5:43:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/8/2005 5:44:58 AM EST by RenegadeX]

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

I was under th eimpression you oculd carry a club if you had CCW


Texas does not have a CCW, only CHL; Concealed Handgun License.

Florida has CCW, as well as a few other states. Texas is only for handguns.



What he is referring to is Texas CHL NONAPPLICABILITY (section 46.15) applies to section 46.02, not handguns per se. So if you have a CHL AND you are carrying it with a valid license, 46.02 does not apply to you.

Not the intent, but that is the law.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm



Not actually. 46.15


Text (b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:



(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license
issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a
concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is
carrying;


So 46.02 DOES apply to a person carrying a club or a knife, even if they have a CHL.





Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is carrying;

So if I leave my house "carrying a concealed handgun", and "a valid license issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun", then 46.02 does not apply to me.

Nowhere does it say only certain portions of 46.02 do not apply. All of 46.02 does not apply. Like I said, that is not what they meant to do, but until they fix it, that is what it says. Anything else is revisionist thinking on the part of the DPS.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 5:58:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
- Blackjacks
- Telescoping Batons
- Billy Clubs
- Switchblades
- Butterfly Knives



What is your definition of illegal? possession? use of?
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 6:19:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 7:00:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

The second two are switchblade knives by Texas Definition


(11) "Switchblade knife" means any knife that has a blade
that folds, closes, or retracts into the handle or sheath, and that:
...
(B) opens or releases a blade from the handle or sheath by
the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force.



... (5) a switchblade knife;




There are exceptions you can find.



What about a Gerber LST? You can open it with a flick of the wrist. A la "centrifugal force".
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 7:39:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

I was under th eimpression you oculd carry a club if you had CCW


Texas does not have a CCW, only CHL; Concealed Handgun License.

Florida has CCW, as well as a few other states. Texas is only for handguns.



What he is referring to is Texas CHL NONAPPLICABILITY (section 46.15) applies to section 46.02, not handguns per se. So if you have a CHL AND you are carrying it with a valid license, 46.02 does not apply to you.

Not the intent, but that is the law.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm



Not actually. 46.15


Text (b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:



(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license
issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a
concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is
carrying;


So 46.02 DOES apply to a person carrying a club or a knife, even if they have a CHL.





Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is carrying;

So if I leave my house "carrying a concealed handgun", and "a valid license issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun", then 46.02 does not apply to me.

Nowhere does it say only certain portions of 46.02 do not apply. All of 46.02 does not apply. Like I said, that is not what they meant to do, but until they fix it, that is what it says. Anything else is revisionist thinking on the part of the DPS.



Yes, I see your point; however, I can't afford nor desire to be a test case!
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 2:29:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

I was under th eimpression you oculd carry a club if you had CCW


Texas does not have a CCW, only CHL; Concealed Handgun License.

Florida has CCW, as well as a few other states. Texas is only for handguns.



What he is referring to is Texas CHL NONAPPLICABILITY (section 46.15) applies to section 46.02, not handguns per se. So if you have a CHL AND you are carrying it with a valid license, 46.02 does not apply to you.

Not the intent, but that is the law.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm



Not actually. 46.15


Text (b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:



(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license
issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a
concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is
carrying;


So 46.02 DOES apply to a person carrying a club or a knife, even if they have a CHL.





Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is carrying;

So if I leave my house "carrying a concealed handgun", and "a valid license issued under Article 4413(29ee), Revised Statutes, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun", then 46.02 does not apply to me.

Nowhere does it say only certain portions of 46.02 do not apply. All of 46.02 does not apply. Like I said, that is not what they meant to do, but until they fix it, that is what it says. Anything else is revisionist thinking on the part of the DPS.



Yes, I see your point; however, I can't afford nor desire to be a test case!



Me neither as the DPS position is they are illegal. Either way, if I am carrying a gun, why also carry a stick or illegal knife when you can legally carry a gun and a legal knife?
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 3:12:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:


Most Kershaws are legal up here for some reason, which is good because i like Kershaws




Kershaws are legal because they do not open by pressing a devise on the handle. Other knifes that we open with a flick of the wrist are not DISINED to be opened so, like your car is not DISINED to exceed the speed limit. So they are legal.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 6:50:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
- Blackjacks
- Telescoping Batons
- Billy Clubs
- Switchblades
- Butterfly Knives

I checked through the Texas Weapons code, and I couldn't find anything about tazers. Are they legal in TX?



tazers are legal
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 7:10:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

The second two are switchblade knives by Texas Definition


(11) "Switchblade knife" means any knife that has a blade
that folds, closes, or retracts into the handle or sheath, and that:
...
(B) opens or releases a blade from the handle or sheath by
the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force.



... (5) a switchblade knife;




There are exceptions you can find.



What about a Gerber LST? You can open it with a flick of the wrist. A la "centrifugal force".



If you can "flick" it open without assiatance of friction or force applied to the blade, you risk arrest.
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 9:56:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
I was under th eimpression you oculd carry a club if you had CCW......... which is somewhat pointless as you cold then carry a firearm.........


and that knife law looks almost identical to ours up here...... Up here we can have a knife that has s thumbstud, so long as the blade does not move under it's own weight when the knife is moved in a closed position. Ohterwise centrifugal force makes it illegal (like butterfly knives and the like)

Most Kershaws are legal up here for some reason, which is good because i like Kershaws



Kershaw knives are considered "assisted opening" knives. You must start the opening process manually but pushing the blade out, at which point the tension bar takes over and finishes the process. Completely legal by Texas law, and they can be purchased at Wal-Mart, Academy, and most other sporting goods shops in Texas. I keep breaking blades on Whirlwinds, usually at the tip, but I don't feel to bad about abusing them either.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 3/8/2005 10:33:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:

The second two are switchblade knives by Texas Definition


(11) "Switchblade knife" means any knife that has a blade
that folds, closes, or retracts into the handle or sheath, and that:
...
(B) opens or releases a blade from the handle or sheath by
the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force.



... (5) a switchblade knife;




There are exceptions you can find.



What about a Gerber LST? You can open it with a flick of the wrist. A la "centrifugal force".



If you can "flick" it open without assiatance of friction or force applied to the blade, you risk arrest.



But it takes talent. Unless you can depress the lock. Then all back-lock blades are illegal for those who can depress the backspring. The older style front locks are all legal because the back spring is independent of the lock.

Bummer law. I guess I have to stop flicking it open, lest a LEO sees me doing something "illegal".
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 6:57:51 AM EST
This whole argument is why pepper spray is so great. It's totally legal, and since it's non-lethal, if you have to use it, the courts will look favorably on you because you didn't cut the perp up, bash his skull in with a club, beat him with your hands, throw him on the concrete, etc...

The stuff is totally effective for most situations where a gun is not warranted. Forget all that plastic crap, though, and carry the ASP defender...

Don't get me wrong, I think a tele baton is one of the best non-lethal devices out there, but here in Texas, it's a no-go for civilian carry. Mine is dusty in a drawer somewhere, while I have worn out about 4 ASP defender pepper sprays. My Glocks don't seem to wear out so much, but I get extras and rotate them out just because.......

Link Posted: 3/9/2005 7:08:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheNorm:
This whole argument is why pepper spray is so great. It's totally useless.



Fixed it for you. I've been sprayed. Hurt like hell, but if I truly had my mind set on hurting someone, it wouldn't have stopped me.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 7:47:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By photokirk:

Originally Posted By TheNorm:
This whole argument is why pepper spray is so great. It's totally useless.



Fixed it for you. I've been sprayed. Hurt like hell, but if I truly had my mind set on hurting someone, it wouldn't have stopped me.



I have been sprayed too. I also teach Security Guards in Texas, and we teach an OC class monthly. 90% of those sprayed are immediately out of it. The other 10% it takes 3-5 seconds.

I also have seen many LEO's trained with the same results.

Link Posted: 3/9/2005 8:12:34 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 8:30:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:

Originally Posted By TheNorm:
I have worn out about 4 ASP defender pepper sprays.


What in the Sam Houston are you doing that causes you to use so much pepper spray?



LOL Thast what I was thinking too. I carry an ASP Defender too.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 8:49:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:

Originally Posted By TheNorm:
I have worn out about 4 ASP defender pepper sprays.


What in the Sam Houston are you doing that causes you to use so much pepper spray?



Well, assuming he is a Police Officer, by Pepper Spraying people, he is not Punching, Clubbing, Shooting or otherwise inflicting permanent bodily harm on the people he serves. I think that is good police work.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 9:25:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:

Originally Posted By TheNorm:
I have worn out about 4 ASP defender pepper sprays.


What in the Sam Houston are you doing that causes you to use so much pepper spray?



Well, assuming he is a Police Officer, by Pepper Spraying people, he is not Punching, Clubbing, Shooting or otherwise inflicting permanent bodily harm on the people he serves. I think that is good police work.



They have replaceable canisters. From his post, I imagine the devices being worn out, not used up...just the way he worded it.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 9:53:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:

Originally Posted By TheNorm:
I have worn out about 4 ASP defender pepper sprays.


What in the Sam Houston are you doing that causes you to use so much pepper spray?



Spraying it on his food. [Homer Simpson] The taste of old Mexico! Arggggllrrrgglll....[/Homer Simpson]

Link Posted: 3/9/2005 1:26:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/9/2005 1:27:50 PM EST by Texan-Cowboys]
Switchblades are illegal and
will be confiscated if found on you while in the public.
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 3:51:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By jadams951:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
- Blackjacks
- Telescoping Batons
- Billy Clubs
- Switchblades
- Butterfly Knives

I checked through the Texas Weapons code, and I couldn't find anything about tazers. Are they legal in TX?



tazers are legal




The night shift brass have elected me as their ginipig for when they start trainging for the new tazers
Link Posted: 3/9/2005 6:57:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By Texan-Cowboys:
Switchblades are illegal and
will be confiscated if found on you while in the public.



...that depends if hte officer gives a shit or not.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 7:37:56 AM EST
Good thead. I carry a Glock, even though I love it, it looks like a club, so am I in trouble?
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 8:23:00 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 11:51:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ngog_Nrythrng:

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:

Originally Posted By TheNorm:
I have worn out about 4 ASP defender pepper sprays.


What in the Sam Houston are you doing that causes you to use so much pepper spray?



Spraying it on his food. [Homer Simpson] The taste of old Mexico! Arggggllrrrgglll....[/Homer Simpson]




I was thinking more along the lines of breath spray before knocking on a date's door to pick her up for dinner and a movie.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 11:52:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:

Originally Posted By usma89:
Good thead. I carry a Glock, even though I love it, it looks like a club, so am I in trouble?



Only when it blows up in your hand.

TRG



f'n hilarious posts......... both of y'all.........


Link Posted: 3/11/2005 12:17:54 AM EST
I live in a "gray" neighborhood..... as in most of the folks 'round here are older. I always see them walking in the evenings (i.e. dusk) carrying those "walking sticks" (i.e. clubs).

Funny, as I could never recall age having anything to do with nonapplicability.........
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 8:32:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
I live in a "gray" neighborhood..... as in most of the folks 'round here are older. I always see them walking in the evenings (i.e. dusk) carrying those "walking sticks" (i.e. clubs).

Funny, as I could never recall age having anything to do with nonapplicability.........



I took the CHL class, and it struck me as any 'long swinging device' would be illegal, be it cane, crutch etc. What would be the deal with my hiking stick (yes, specifically made for that purpose)?

Along those lines, what about Class lll ownership? Any ownership of mahineguns?
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:13:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By junker46:
Originally Posted By wise_jake:


I took the CHL class, and it struck me as any 'long swinging device' would be illegal, be it cane, crutch etc. What would be the deal with my hiking stick (yes, specifically made for that purpose)?

Along those lines, what about Class lll ownership? Any ownership of mahineguns?



here is the TPC definition of a club


(1) "Club" means an instrument that is specially designed,
made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting serious bodily injury
or death by striking a person with the instrument, and includes but is
not limited to the following:

(A) blackjack;

(B) nightstick;

(C) mace;

(D) tomahawk.


Walking sticks, critches, even baseball bats are not in and of themselves illegal to carry. What matters is the adaptation of its use.

The rumors of needing to carry a baseball with a bat to be legal stem from case law, and may or may not accurately reflect the results of a particular case. Drilling a hole in a bat, filling it with lead and taping the handle could easily be seen as adapting the bat for the purposes set out in the definition.

Officers and the courts will look at the totality of the circumstances when evaluating a potential club.

***far fetched example*** a guy your sister is dating tries to score against her wishes. She comes home upset and crying. You never liked the arrogant, cocky SOB, so you decide to go have a little "chat" with him.

Before you leave you throw your baseball bat in the car. You find Romeo at the local Taco Bell parking lot. You and he get into a heated argument, fighting words are exchanged and you grab your bat. Someone called in a disturbance and the PoPo show up about this time. You could have a problem.

Or as you are leaving the PD pulls you over as you drive away because you were reported involved in the disturbance. Said bat is found in the car.

****end of far fetched story****

Way to many variables to make a concrete blaket statement about things like bats and walking sticks.

Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:59:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By jadams951:

Originally Posted By Texan-Cowboys:
Switchblades are illegal and
will be confiscated if found on you while in the public.



...that depends if hte officer gives a shit or not.



Yeah that is true.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 6:37:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By txinvestigator:
here is the TPC definition of a club

(1) "Club" means an instrument that is specially designed,
made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting serious bodily injury
or death by striking a person
with the instrument, and includes but is
not limited to the following:




txinvestigator,

I was kinda just pokin' fun at the oldies who carry their walking sticks / clubs. The italicized portion of what is in red is what [technically] saves them from becoming law-breakers........ their clubs aren't intended/designed to inflict injury on persons, rather on biting/attacking dogs. The fact that they can/could jack up a person is incidental to their primary purpose of doggie self-defense tool. That, and the fact that nobody wants to cite/arrest their mom's/dad's bridge partner and potential future nursing home roommate.............
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 8:44:55 PM EST
Thanks for the reply, txinvestigator. Lets tackle this issue: scanning thru the link i didn't see a provision for legally registered Class llls.

§ 46.05. PROHIBITED WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an
offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures,
transports, repairs, or sells:

(2) a machine gun;
(3) a short-barrel firearm;


An oversight or a case waiting to be tested by trial?
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 5:17:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By junker46:
Thanks for the reply, txinvestigator. Lets tackle this issue: scanning thru the link i didn't see a provision for legally registered Class llls.

§ 46.05. PROHIBITED WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an
offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures,
transports, repairs, or sells:

(2) a machine gun;
(3) a short-barrel firearm;


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(c) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that
the actor's possession was pursuant to registration pursuant to the
National Firearms Act, as amended.
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