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Posted: 5/28/2014 2:38:25 PM EDT
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Is switch single or is there more than one in the same panel?
Is there a ceiling fan or ceiling light in the room? What kind of room is the switch in? |
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Posted: 5/28/2014 2:49:39 PM EDT
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15 yr commercial Sparky here...
 Resd. too. With references
I don't have a 16 ft ladder though  MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.
The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no fixture, it controls an outlet. If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it my prices go up a bit  I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also 
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Posted: 5/28/2014 3:17:58 PM EDT
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15 yr commercial Sparky here... Resd. too. With references
I don't have a 16 ft ladder though MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.
The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no fixture, it controls an outlet. If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it my prices go up a bit I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also
IM me So can I get you to come do some work for me this winter? I'm cheap and bud light works for me.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 4:22:43 PM EDT
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Where are you located?
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Posted: 5/28/2014 4:24:17 PM EDT
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15 yr commercial Sparky here... Resd. too. With references
I don't have a 16 ft ladder though MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.
The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no fixture, it controls an outlet. If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it my prices go up a bit I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also
IM me I need a couple days worth of work out at my range so we can have another HTF shoot. 
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Posted: 5/28/2014 5:45:36 PM EDT
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Is there a fire place in the room? Might control the gas logs?
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Posted: 5/28/2014 5:49:46 PM EDT
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Is there a fire place in the room? Might control the gas logs? I hadn't thought about that. I think it's an exterior light with a blown bulb maybe. |
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Posted: 5/28/2014 5:52:59 PM EDT
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Is there a fire place in the room? Might control the gas logs? Did you try any outlets in the next room / hallway? I've worked on a house in Atl that had switches that led to cut wires in the crawl space. Yikes! Be very careful if you find the cut end of a wire - it may be hot. I'm sure the pro's have enough horror stories to write a book about this! |
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Posted: 5/28/2014 6:27:25 PM EDT
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Damn, lots of responses
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Is switch single or is there more than one in the same panel? Is there a ceiling fan or ceiling light in the room? What kind of room is the switch in? Single switch No fan or light on the ceiling Its like a "formal" living room. Quoted:
15 yr commercial Sparky here... Resd. too. With references
I don't have a 16 ft ladder though MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.
The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no fixture, it controls an outlet. If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it my prices go up a bit I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also
IM me It might be more complicated, its on the 1st floor of a 2 story home. Has a room above it. Quoted:
Where are you located? NE GA, Braselton/Hoschton area Quoted:
Is there a fire place in the room? Might control the gas logs? Fireplace in the home, but not in this room Quoted:
I hadn't thought about that. I think it's an exterior light with a blown bulb maybe. Only exterior light on this side of the house works, also would be a strange place for an exterior switch
I have not checked the outlets closest to the room, I'm going to do that now. Nope, doesn't work on those either On a side note, I pulled the switch cover off and it is wired. |
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Posted: 5/28/2014 7:04:53 PM EDT
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Damn, lots of responses
On a side note, I pulled the switch cover off and it is wired. If you have a meter or just a dummy light, check it for voltage. If there is, and your dummy light is sensitive enough you may be able to follow the hot wire a little bit. At least enough to tell if it goes into the ceiling or not. Eta And you're sure it doesn't control any outlets? Did you try flipping it on and off with some turned on at each outlet? |
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Posted: 5/28/2014 7:07:24 PM EDT
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I have not checked the outlets closest to the room, I'm going to do that now.[/span] Nope, doesn't work on those either On a side note, I pulled the switch cover off and it is wired. Start looking for the trap door.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 7:14:37 PM EDT
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Start looking for the trap door. That crossed my mind as well! This thread might be going places. |
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Posted: 5/28/2014 7:16:25 PM EDT
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That crossed my mind as well! This thread might be going places. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Start looking for the trap door. That crossed my mind as well! This thread might be going places.  in!
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Posted: 5/28/2014 7:38:17 PM EDT
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Got wire coming in from the bottom, appears to goto the switch then up out of the box. I'll put a DVOM to it tomorrow and see if it has any juice.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 1:37:12 AM EDT
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Check every single outlet, top and bottom, in the room for a switches outlet
Sometimes only the top or bottom outlet will be switched on one wall I have a new little giant 17' skyscraper ladder you can borrow if you want to drive to canton I bought it just for tall ceilings It collapses down to less than 10' |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 2:26:31 PM EDT
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You supply 9mm ammo, beer and some meat to grill I will re-wire the whole place
I need a couple days worth of work out at my range so we can have another HTF shoot.
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15 yr commercial Sparky here... Resd. too. With references
I don't have a 16 ft ladder though MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.
The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no fixture, it controls an outlet. If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it my prices go up a bit I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also
IM me You supply 9mm ammo, beer and some meat to grill I will re-wire the whole place
I need a couple days worth of work out at my range so we can have another HTF shoot.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 2:54:24 PM EDT
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Did you check EVERY plug in all receptacles? You can wire a switch to control just the top or bottom and have the other run constant.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 3:57:49 PM EDT
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Hook the neutral to the antenna of an an radio. Crank the dial to the highest frequency it will go. Take a TV remote (stud finders work the best if you have one) and point it to the wall. Push a button. You can hear it over the radio. You can trace the wires through the wall by pushing the remote button and listen to the interference on the radio.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 4:32:28 PM EDT
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Hook the neutral to the antenna of an an radio. Crank the dial to the highest frequency it will go. Take a TV remote (stud finders work the best if you have one) and point it to the wall. Push a button. You can hear it over the radio. You can trace the wires through the wall by pushing the remote button and listen to the interference on the radio. never heard that one before
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Posted: 5/29/2014 4:35:15 PM EDT
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Got wire coming in from the bottom, appears to goto the switch then up out of the box. I'll put a DVOM to it tomorrow and see if it has any juice. how many conductors are there in each wire? Any red color conductors? |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 4:40:35 PM EDT
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how many conductors are there in each wire? Any red color conductors? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got wire coming in from the bottom, appears to goto the switch then up out of the box. I'll put a DVOM to it tomorrow and see if it has any juice. how many conductors are there in each wire? Any red color conductors? I was about to ask the same thing. |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 5:06:03 PM EDT
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Is there a hole that is covered up in the ceiling? if so, the switch controls that, where you add a fan or ceiling light in the future.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 6:40:29 PM EDT
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Each wire has 3 conductors in it. a red, black and a copper wire. I'v Got a red, black and copper wire going to the switch. Also have 120v at the switch.
Also, has two wires with 3 conductors each going out of the top of the switch box. Ceiling does not appear to have had hole covered where a light used to be. Checked all the plugs; no dice. |
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Posted: 5/30/2014 1:56:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Each wire has 3 conductors in it. a red, black and a copper wire. I'v Got a red, black and copper wire going to the switch. Also have 120v at the switch. Also, has two wires with 3 conductors each going out of the top of the switch box. Ceiling does not appear to have had hole covered where a light used to be. Checked all the plugs; no dice. |
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Posted: 5/30/2014 5:06:54 AM EDT
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Try testing the continuity across the switch.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 10:45:53 AM EDT
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Try testing the continuity across the switch. I will when I get home today. |
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Posted: 5/30/2014 11:13:12 AM EDT
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Witchcraft
don't mess wif it clown |
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Posted: 5/30/2014 12:44:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Witchcraft don't mess wif it clown |
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Posted: 5/31/2014 11:36:08 AM EDT
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comm. ind elec 4 over 25 yrs.
i know witchcraft
clown |
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Posted: 6/1/2014 8:56:17 AM EDT
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Is op deaded?
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Posted: 6/7/2014 9:33:46 PM EDT
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op is alive!
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Posted: 6/8/2014 10:57:15 AM EDT
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ooppss
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Posted: 6/8/2014 11:39:59 AM EDT
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I am indeed alive, and am still no closer to getting them fixed as I was when I started
I'v been rather busy, and just haven't had the time to research and hire someone to come out. I'v also got to get someone out to quote a covered deck and a roof over my front porch, just been super busy. EDIT; this is a picture I snapped of it a few days ago. 
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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:21:13 PM EDT
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Found another problem, I'v got 2 light switches in my dining room. They both control the light, but when one is turned on the other switch won't turn it off. If i turn the one off, the other will turn it on.
On a side note, I can't believe how hard it is to find someone who is willing to come out and look at these small problems. I'm guessing construction is picking back up so they have more work now
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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:26:56 PM EDT
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The common wire on your three wrote switch is of.
Someone probably replaced a switch at some point and they didn't put the writes back. |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:28:55 PM EDT
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The common wire on your three wrote switch is of. Someone probably replaced a switch at some point and they didn't put the writes back. How can I tell a 3 way from a regular? I guess I can go pull them both and look to see if one is different. |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:38:01 PM EDT
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I'll try and find you a diagram and a picture. Looks like the one in the pic (red wire) is wrong because it's not in a wire nut and is a single wire. Unless it's the end of the circuit.
Stand by Eta This should help you with the theory See if I can find you a youtube video Stand By |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:42:47 PM EDT
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Problem solved. I went and pulled both switches, found 1 had a wire that wasn't attached (maybe came out when the painted the room?). Attached it to the switch and its all working, thanks!
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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:44:29 PM EDT
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Good.
 have yourself a beer now! 
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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:45:53 PM EDT
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If I could figure out the mystery switch I would
Wife's co-worker gave her a number for a place in Athens, I guess I'll call them tomorrow. |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:55:40 PM EDT
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If I could figure out the mystery switch I would
Wife's co-worker gave her a number for a place in Athens, I guess I'll call them tomorrow. Check out the link I posted last. It will help you to understand some basics so you understand what you're looking at next time. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 3:25:28 AM EDT
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How can I tell a 3 way from a regular? I guess I can go pull them both and look to see if one is different. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The common wire on your three wrote switch is of. Someone probably replaced a switch at some point and they didn't put the writes back. How can I tell a 3 way from a regular? I guess I can go pull them both and look to see if one is different. 3 wire has a red wire in addition to the black, white, and grounds. |
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