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Posted: 5/28/2014 2:15:30 PM EDT
I'v got a few things in my house that I need addressed and need a decent electrician in order to get them done.

First is, I need a ceiling fan receiver installed. I know what you're thinking, DIY, and I would. Unfortunately I don't have a ladder that can reach it (need a min of a 16' step ladder) and I can't justify the cost of buying one when that is the only thing would even need it for. I could rent one, but have no way to transport it.


Second, I'v got a rogue light switch in a room. I have absolutely no clue as to what its supposed to control, the room in question has no light fixture and hasn't since I moved in. I thought it might control a socket or something, but alas it does not. I need to figure out what its supposed to control and have a fixture installed in the room.
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Link Posted: 5/28/2014 2:49:39 PM EDT
15 yr commercial Sparky here... Resd. too. With references

I don't have a 16 ft ladder though MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.

The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no
fixture, it controls an outlet.

If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it
my prices go up a bit I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also

IM me

Link Posted: 5/28/2014 3:17:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/28/2014 4:22:43 PM EDT
Where are you located?
Link Posted: 5/28/2014 4:24:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hightech_redneck:
15 yr commercial Sparky here... Resd. too. With references

I don't have a 16 ft ladder though MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.

The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no
fixture, it controls an outlet.

If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it
my prices go up a bit I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also

IM me

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I need a couple days worth of work out at my range so we can have another HTF shoot.
Link Posted: 5/28/2014 5:45:36 PM EDT
Is there a fire place in the room? Might control the gas logs?
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Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
Is there a fire place in the room? Might control the gas logs?
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Did you try any outlets in the next room / hallway?

I've worked on a house in Atl that had switches that led to cut wires in the crawl space. Yikes! Be very careful if you find the cut end of a wire - it may be hot. I'm sure the pro's have enough horror stories to write a book about this!
Link Posted: 5/28/2014 6:27:25 PM EDT
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Damn, lots of responses

Originally Posted By makeitflyfast:
Is switch single or is there more than one in the same panel?

Is there a ceiling fan or ceiling light in the room?

What kind of room is the switch in?

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Single switch
No fan or light on the ceiling
Its like a "formal" living room.

Originally Posted By hightech_redneck:
15 yr commercial Sparky here... Resd. too. With references

I don't have a 16 ft ladder though MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.

The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no
fixture, it controls an outlet.

If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it
my prices go up a bit I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also

IM me
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It might be more complicated, its on the 1st floor of a 2 story home. Has a room above it.

Originally Posted By Handydave:
Where are you located?
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NE GA, Braselton/Hoschton area

Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
Is there a fire place in the room? Might control the gas logs?
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Fireplace in the home, but not in this room

Originally Posted By makeitflyfast:
I hadn't thought about that.

I think it's an exterior light with a blown bulb maybe.
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Only exterior light on this side of the house works, also would be a strange place for an exterior switch


I have not checked the outlets closest to the room, I'm going to do that now. Nope, doesn't work on those either




On a side note, I pulled the switch cover off and it is wired.



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Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
I have not checked the outlets closest to the room, I'm going to do that now.[/span] Nope, doesn't work on those either




On a side note, I pulled the switch cover off and it is wired.



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Start looking for the trap door.
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Originally Posted By makeitflyfast:

That crossed my mind as well!

This thread might be going places.


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Originally Posted By big_tex78:
Start looking for the trap door.

That crossed my mind as well!

This thread might be going places.



in!
Link Posted: 5/28/2014 7:38:17 PM EDT
Got wire coming in from the bottom, appears to goto the switch then up out of the box. I'll put a DVOM to it tomorrow and see if it has any juice.
Link Posted: 5/29/2014 1:37:12 AM EDT
Check every single outlet, top and bottom, in the room for a switches outlet
Sometimes only the top or bottom outlet will be switched on one wall
I have a new little giant 17' skyscraper ladder you can borrow if you want to drive to canton
I bought it just for tall ceilings
It collapses down to less than 10'


Link Posted: 5/29/2014 2:26:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GAhunter95:


You supply 9mm ammo, beer and some meat to grill I will re-wire the whole place

I need a couple days worth of work out at my range so we can have another HTF shoot.
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Originally Posted By GAhunter95:
Originally Posted By hightech_redneck:
15 yr commercial Sparky here... Resd. too. With references

I don't have a 16 ft ladder though MIGHT be able to sweet talk boss to borrow one at work.

The troubleshooting switch SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. TYPICALLY, if there is no
fixture, it controls an outlet.

If you need a fixture installed, which means I get my behind in your attic to cut in a box and get a hot/switch to it
my prices go up a bit I usually charge a 6 pack per 5 deg. over 70 also

IM me



You supply 9mm ammo, beer and some meat to grill I will re-wire the whole place

I need a couple days worth of work out at my range so we can have another HTF shoot.

Link Posted: 5/29/2014 2:54:24 PM EDT
Did you check EVERY plug in all receptacles? You can wire a switch to control just the top or bottom and have the other run constant.
Link Posted: 5/29/2014 3:57:49 PM EDT
Hook the neutral to the antenna of an an radio. Crank the dial to the highest frequency it will go. Take a TV remote (stud finders work the best if you have one) and point it to the wall. Push a button. You can hear it over the radio. You can trace the wires through the wall by pushing the remote button and listen to the interference on the radio.
Link Posted: 5/29/2014 4:32:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
Hook the neutral to the antenna of an an radio. Crank the dial to the highest frequency it will go. Take a TV remote (stud finders work the best if you have one) and point it to the wall. Push a button. You can hear it over the radio. You can trace the wires through the wall by pushing the remote button and listen to the interference on the radio.
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never heard that one before
Link Posted: 5/29/2014 4:35:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
Got wire coming in from the bottom, appears to goto the switch then up out of the box. I'll put a DVOM to it tomorrow and see if it has any juice.
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how many conductors are there in each wire? Any red color conductors?
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how many conductors are there in each wire? Any red color conductors?
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Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
Got wire coming in from the bottom, appears to goto the switch then up out of the box. I'll put a DVOM to it tomorrow and see if it has any juice.



how many conductors are there in each wire? Any red color conductors?


I was about to ask the same thing.
Link Posted: 5/29/2014 5:06:03 PM EDT
Is there a hole that is covered up in the ceiling? if so, the switch controls that, where you add a fan or ceiling light in the future.
Link Posted: 5/29/2014 6:40:29 PM EDT
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Each wire has 3 conductors in it. a red, black and a copper wire. I'v Got a red, black and copper wire going to the switch. Also have 120v at the switch.


Also, has two wires with 3 conductors each going out of the top of the switch box.




Ceiling does not appear to have had hole covered where a light used to be. Checked all the plugs; no dice.
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Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
Each wire has 3 conductors in it. a red, black and a copper wire. I'v Got a red, black and copper wire going to the switch. Also have 120v at the switch.


Also, has two wires with 3 conductors each going out of the top of the switch box.

Ceiling does not appear to have had hole covered where a light used to be. Checked all the plugs; no dice.
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Sounds like a three way switch that has gone bad.
Link Posted: 5/30/2014 5:06:54 AM EDT
Try testing the continuity across the switch.
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Originally Posted By earlwhytt:
Try testing the continuity across the switch.
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I will when I get home today.
Link Posted: 5/30/2014 11:13:12 AM EDT
Witchcraft

don't mess wif it

clown
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Originally Posted By clown714:
Witchcraft

don't mess wif it

clown
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Come on man! It ain't witchcraft, it's FM!!!
Link Posted: 5/31/2014 11:36:08 AM EDT
comm. ind elec 4 over 25 yrs.

i know witchcraft

clown
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Link Posted: 6/7/2014 9:33:46 PM EDT
op is alive!
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ooppss
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I am indeed alive, and am still no closer to getting them fixed as I was when I started

I'v been rather busy, and just haven't had the time to research and hire someone to come out. I'v also got to get someone out to quote a covered deck and a roof over my front porch, just been super busy.




EDIT; this is a picture I snapped of it a few days ago.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 6:21:13 PM EDT
Found another problem, I'v got 2 light switches in my dining room. They both control the light, but when one is turned on the other switch won't turn it off. If i turn the one off, the other will turn it on.




On a side note, I can't believe how hard it is to find someone who is willing to come out and look at these small problems. I'm guessing construction is picking back up so they have more work now
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 6:26:56 PM EDT
The common wire on your three wrote switch is of.

Someone probably replaced a switch at some point and they didn't put the writes back.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 6:28:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
The common wire on your three wrote switch is of.

Someone probably replaced a switch at some point and they didn't put the writes back.
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How can I tell a 3 way from a regular? I guess I can go pull them both and look to see if one is different.
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Link Posted: 6/18/2014 6:42:47 PM EDT
Problem solved. I went and pulled both switches, found 1 had a wire that wasn't attached (maybe came out when the painted the room?). Attached it to the switch and its all working, thanks!
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If I could figure out the mystery switch I would

Wife's co-worker gave her a number for a place in Athens, I guess I'll call them tomorrow.
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Originally Posted By Dinnertime:




How can I tell a 3 way from a regular? I guess I can go pull them both and look to see if one is different.
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Originally Posted By Dinnertime:
Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
The common wire on your three wrote switch is of.

Someone probably replaced a switch at some point and they didn't put the writes back.




How can I tell a 3 way from a regular? I guess I can go pull them both and look to see if one is different.

3 wire has a red wire in addition to the black, white, and grounds.
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