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Posted: 1/13/2006 9:42:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 9:53:49 AM EDT
As stupid as that looks, it's legal. However, it is an open invitation to be pulled over. Some officers may be uncertain, it does have Uncle Jed written all over it. But, he better have a "doubles" endorsement. I'm sure he'll be digging it out of his wallet every now and then.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 9:54:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 10:08:09 AM EDT
I know cattle ranchers that have a fifth wheel on the pick-up and a tung pull attaches to the back of the fifth wheel, pulls it loaded over Steven's pass all the time.

Thats nothing but a (jeep) (dolly) (truck) carrier axle.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 10:40:59 AM EDT
There is a bill that was introduced last year and re-introduced this year that would allow certain travel trailer/utility doubles with an endorsement.

SB 5067


7 (4) A combination consisting of a motor vehicle weighing more than
8 four thousand pounds unladen, a travel trailer, and a trailer designed
9 for hauling a boat, snowmobiles, or nonhighway vehicles as defined in
10 RCW 46.09.020. The vehicles in combination must not exceed sixty-five
11 feet in length and must have a braking capacity that conforms to RCW
12 46.37.351 and progressive braking. The trailers must have connecting
13 devices designed and attached in such a manner to be capable of towing
14 the gross weight of the trailers in tow. A person operating this
15 combination must have an endorsement issued by the department, under
16 rules adopted by the department, permitting operation of this
17 combination. The department shall permit testing of applicants for
18 this endorsement by a third party testing program in accordance with
19 RCW 46.25.060. The department shall charge a fee of twenty-five
20 dollars for the endorsement.

Link Posted: 1/13/2006 10:48:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
Doh! I forgot to ask if he had a CDL, or other.







The key part there is the C. Commercial.


Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:00:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:13:02 AM EDT
It looks terribly dangerous to me! Yes, you see plenty of doubles on the road now (commercial) but they are all fifth wheel setups. In some states, non-commercial doubles are allowed, but typically the first towed vehicle HAS to be a fifth wheel setup, with a bumper pull attached to it.

I would not want to be around this setup, going downhill, when he needs to emergency brake. The travel trailer probably has a dry weight of 16,000 lbs, and all that weight is being controlled by a 2" receiver hitch???? Braking around a curve must be a total bitch. The force vectors are horrendous with the two pivot points that close together.

He may have towed 50,000 miles with it, but that is just because he has been lucky, nothing else.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:16:26 AM EDT
Again, Commercial


Try this.....

RCW 46.44.030
Maximum lengths.


It is unlawful for any person to operate upon the public highways of this state any vehicle having an overall length, with or without load, in excess of forty feet. This restriction does not apply to (1) a municipal transit vehicle, (2) auto stage, private carrier bus, school bus, or motor home with an overall length not to exceed forty-six feet, or (3) an articulated auto stage with an overall length not to exceed sixty-one feet.

It is unlawful for any person to operate upon the public highways of this state any combination consisting of a tractor and semitrailer that has a semitrailer length in excess of fifty-three feet or a combination consisting of a tractor and two trailers in which the combined length of the trailers exceeds sixty-one feet, with or without load.

It is unlawful for any person to operate on the highways of this state any combination consisting of a truck and trailer, or log truck and stinger-steered pole trailer, with an overall length, with or without load, in excess of seventy-five feet. "Stinger-steered," as used in this section, means the coupling device is located behind the tread of the tires of the last axle of the towing vehicle.

In common English RV is RV, it is not Commercial. In this goofy ass state who knows.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:20:04 AM EDT
Farm Fire and Military are exempt.

The Stalinist BS in this state is really getting to be too much.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:29:56 AM EDT
If he had two fags blowing each other in the trailer it would be legal....
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:33:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:
If he had two fags blowing each other in the trailer it would be legal....



Democrats would subsidise it.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:43:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 11:48:01 AM EDT by R-32]

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:

Originally Posted By KA3B:
If he had two fags blowing each other in the trailer it would be legal....



Democrats would subsidise it.



What does 1GR and TRG have to do with any of this?

We are talking about pulling double trailers, not getting ready to play locomotion...
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:48:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:
We are talking about pulling double trailers, not getting ready to pull a train...



It's not a double, it is just a wagon trailer.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:51:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:

Originally Posted By R-32:
We are talking about pulling double trailers, not getting ready to pull a train...



It's not a double, it is just a wagon trailer.



Dont get out much do ya?...
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:52:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:

Originally Posted By R-32:
We are talking about pulling double trailers, not getting ready to pull a train...



It's not a double, it is just a wagon trailer.



Dont get out much do ya?...



Why ? you need your wagon fixed !
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:54:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:

Originally Posted By R-32:

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:

Originally Posted By R-32:
We are talking about pulling double trailers, not getting ready to pull a train...



It's not a double, it is just a wagon trailer.



Dont get out much do ya?...



Why ? you need your wagon fixed !



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