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Posted: 1/24/2009 7:09:44 PM EDT
I talked with Spyda today... He asked me to share that he got the perma-banhammer. So I am guessing the topic of STRATIOTES and anything about the dear ruler is NOT fair game...



That is all

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:26:10 PM EDT
[#1]


I will miss his post's.

ETA: He was angry when he posted that. I hope that was considered.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:27:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I talked with Spyda today... He asked me to share that he got the perma-banhammer. So I am guessing the topic of STRATIOTES and anything about the dear ruler is NOT fair game...



That is all




No, I'm guessing a thread entitled "cockfags" directed at staff wasn't too well recieved......................

ETA:  thanks for letting us know, Spanky.

Methinks we should tread lightly on this subject.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:32:54 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I talked with Spyda today... He asked me to share that he got the perma-banhammer. So I am guessing the topic of STRATIOTES and anything about the dear ruler is NOT fair game...



That is all




No, I'm guessing a thread entitled "cockfags" directed at staff wasn't too well recieved......................


I am sure it was not... He did make mention that they did not quote him right... I do know that VA-Gunnut changed the title. I wonder if the person who banned him (Not VA-Gunnut) saw that title and thought Spyda posted that??? Could it be just a communication error?

I don't know.

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:33:42 PM EDT
[#4]
I don't always agree, but I am respectful with my replies.  Some of the members on ARFCOM get  too emotional with their replies.  Think before you reply.  This situation with strat has gotten blown way out of control.  Just sayin... Two WAHTF members down, bummer.   By the way, I like your new avatar spankybear.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:38:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:40:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I don't always agree, but I am respectful with my replies.  Some of the members on ARFCOM get  too emotional with their replies.  Think before you reply.  This situation with strat has gotten blown way out of control.  Just sayin... Two WAHTF members down, bummer.   By the way, I like your new avatar spankybear.


Thanks for the complment on the avatar... I do expect it will not be around to long and I am sure I am on the ban hammer list...

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:42:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Freedom of Speech does not include yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater.

I'm going to miss Strat, his posts were always thought provoking.
I'll miss Spyda as well.

But this is Arfcomms house and they set the rules.



You know... I am sure that Strat would beg differently about the yelling fire part...
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:45:14 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:51:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Well sheeeeiiiiit.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 7:53:36 PM EDT
[#10]
This is all wrong....
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 8:27:51 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Freedom of Speech does not include yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater.


FTR, everyone is free to yell fire in a crowded theatre. They're just not free from the consequences if they do.  
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 8:31:57 PM EDT
[#12]
Write this down- for sure the first and hopefully the last time I agree with you.

Quoted:

I am sure it was not... He did make mention that they did not quote him right... I do know that VA-Gunnut changed the title. I wonder if the person who banned him (Not VA-Gunnut) saw that title and thought Spyda posted that??? Could it be just a communication error?

I don't know.




Hope the above wasnt the case.

Maybe they just fired for effect and got the wrong guy??? Can we get an alibi???



Link Posted: 1/24/2009 8:52:34 PM EDT
[#13]
I vote, that anyone that was here after the ARFcom logo had a penis in has to go away, and start over...

People get banned. I like Strat... Keeps everyone thinking, and some will not like this part, but I think that no matter who you are/were/do/did... He held EVERYONE to a higher standard.

I think he is waaaaaaaay the hell out there at times, but he is just a higher class of tinfoil at times. I can let him be that way, He has never done anything more then make me laugh, or shake my head. Damn nice guy in person, and very giving.

This bullshit of everyone starting pissing matches over it, is just that...Bullshit... And you deserve what you have coming at you if you want to keep it all up.

Say that you dont agree with his ban... Thats all good. IM Site Staff, and let them know..That is all good. But the accusations, and backbiting sucks.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 8:55:59 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I vote, that anyone that was here after the ARFcom logo had a penis in has to go away, and start over...

People get banned. I like Strat... Keeps everyone thinking, and some will not like this part, but I think that no matter who you are/were/do/did... He held EVERYONE to a higher standard.

I think he is waaaaaaaay the hell out there at times, but he is just a higher class of tinfoil at times. I can let him be that way, He has never done anything more then make me laugh, or shake my head. Damn nice guy in person, and very giving.

This bullshit of everyone starting pissing matches over it, is just that...Bullshit... And you deserve what you have coming at you if you want to keep it all up.

Say that you dont agree with his ban... Thats all good. IM Site Staff, and let them know..That is all good. But the accusations, and backbiting sucks.



Not one word there I dont agree with.

All the new ones go away & try again. Strat is awesome. The new trolling is stupid. IM Staff if your panties hurt your mangina.

Solomon-32 indeed!

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 9:06:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 9:16:18 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
He was banned for the original title, and some of his posts in there as well.

Unfortunately for him, a Staff member here took offense to being called such things.


Since you are here,

Lets get this over with...


What is the deal?...

Is Strat gone for good, or is this a Messican standoff between him, and 82nd?

Not a secret... For as whacked out as Strat is, he is OUR whackjob (every family has one). A few here would love to see him banned, but I would say that more dont mind putting up with his crap overall. That is just the way he is. A lot of us know him face to face.. (hell he may as well be my neighbor).


If he is gone for good, someone from Site Staff just needs to say it, and get it overwith. If this is a Standoff.... Well, we know that Strat will not say he is sorry over this, and 82nd wont back down... So it may as well be a total ban anyway


Lets just kill all of this BS, and get it overwith.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 9:17:41 PM EDT
[#17]

It's the internets, can't take it too seriously.

Or can you?  

Nope.  I just found a MPEG of a paraplegic having sex with a dog.

Well the paraplegic wasn't doing much.  The cameraman yanked her out of the wheelchair, propped her against the bed, yanked her britches down and let the dog at her.  Not sure if she was having fun and I didn't understand the subtitles.

Fun and games.

I just try and remember not to post anything that I wouldn't say in a church.  

And not one of those "come as you are - we will love you until you love yourself" churches, but a real church/temple/synagogue, IE Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, Mormon, Berzerker77's house, Presbyterian...
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 9:20:13 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

Well the paraplegic wasn't doing much.  The cameraman yanked her out of the wheelchair, propped her against the bed, yanked her britches down and let the dog at her.  Not sure if she was having fun and I didn't understand the subtitles.



So really you are saying that she is getting more nookie then you?

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 9:42:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 10:07:23 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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He was banned for the original title, and some of his posts in there as well.

Unfortunately for him, a Staff member here took offense to being called such things.


Since you are here,

Lets get this over with...


What is the deal?...

Is Strat gone for good, or is this a Messican standoff between him, and 82nd?

Not a secret... For as whacked out as Strat is, he is OUR whackjob (every family has one). A few here would love to see him banned, but I would say that more dont mind putting up with his crap overall. That is just the way he is. A lot of us know him face to face.. (hell he may as well be my neighbor).


If he is gone for good, someone from Site Staff just needs to say it, and get it overwith. If this is a Standoff.... Well, we know that Strat will not say he is sorry over this, and 82nd wont back down... So it may as well be a total ban anyway


Lets just kill all of this BS, and get it overwith.


I have no idea what the situation is between the two of them. I do know that his account has been locked permanently.

What does that mean?

We have two options for locking accounts. The first allows us to set a time lock. This just means that if I lock an account for 48hrs, it automatically unlocks after that time has expired. We use this option normally for small first time offenses. It also makes it easier for us, as we don't have to unlock the account manually.

The second option makes the lock permanent. This means that it has to be unlocked manually. The only person that will/can unlock an account, is the Staff Member that does it. This is not set in the system, it's just a rule that all Staff follow. Sr. Staff/Admins won't even unlock an account that was locked by another Staff Member.

So that basically leaves the issue to be settled by the locked member, and the Staff member that locked it. When you get a lock notification via email, it does state that you can contact Sr. Staff who handle all @accounts stuff, if you are not happy with the situation. 99.9% of the time, they will just tell you to deal with the Staff Member that locked the account, give you their email, and forward your complaint to that Staff member as well. That .1% of the time Sr. Staff may include a note asking you to review the issue, and maybe give another chance. This is a request and not a demand though. If the Staff member feels that it's worth keeping the member banned, well that's it.

Normally we try to give all members the benefit of the doubt and will give more than 1 chance if we think it's deserved. Certain issues will get you a permanent ban even on the first offense. One of them, is attacking the Mods or Staff on the site for doing their job. Normally, I won't ban someone for bitching at me about the job I do. Sometimes I even let general Staff bashing go, because I consider it part of the job to get bitched at.

I do have a "zero tolerance" policy for bashing our Mods though. The reason for this is, that our mods are the people that keep this place running. If it wasn't for them, this site wouldn't be what it is. It's our job to assist them, so we take Mod bashing very seriously.

I know I sort of got off track, but basically, the recently banned members have to deal with the person that locked them. I just wanted to give everyone a little background on how it usually handled.


Thank you.

I would like to have 82nd give his side, but that is between him, and Strat... Everyone else will just keep spinning their side till then.... We are talking weeks here now, and it is not quite dead yet.

Like I said before. He is may be whacked... But he is our whack, and it is no secret that WAHTF is a little "tighter" of a bunch then most of the other HTF's

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 10:14:11 PM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 10:17:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
So we're back to where we started. [img]


Tail wagging the dog.  

Thanks for coming in here to shed some light on the subject VA-gunnut.

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 10:21:13 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
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So we're back to where we started. [url=http://
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Tail wagging the dog.  

Thanks for coming in here to shed some light on the subject VA-gunnut.



What he said..

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 10:52:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
<snip>
So really you are saying that she is getting more nookie then you?



Well if you want to look at it that way, so is the dog...

By the way, who let VA-gunut in here?  I understand site staff can lock accounts and shit, but who in the hell gave him permission to step in the WAHTF house?!

Man - if I'd been here instead of jacking off to animal porn when he dragged his lame ass in, I would have been like;

"YO! MUTHERFUKER!" Then I would have internetally gimped up to him - gone face to face - and said "THIS AIN"T THE GD BIT'CH!  YOU DON'T BE BLOCKING OUT THE CRAZY OR I'LL SICK THE BOYZ ON YOU COME WEDNESDAY, PROBABLY LATE THURSDAY EVENING AFTER THEY GET BACK FROM THE LCR/HOSPITAL FOR ALCOHOL POISONING AND OR FROSTBITE!"

Then I would have pushed his ass out the WAHTF internet door.

Come-on R-32, it can't be that busy SMV (South of Mount Vernon), you and K38 need to represent, not be all "How's it going?!  Have some cake and cookies on the way out!  Have a nice day!"
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 10:56:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Come-on R-32, it can't be that busy SMV (South of Mount Vernon), you and K38 need to represent, not be all "How's it going?!  Have some cake and cookies on the way out!  Have a nice day!"




I hate the fact that Staff comes in here...

We police our own, and alway have done a pretty good job.

If they want to come on in for "A Beer or ten" that is a whole different story.

Va has always been a pretty good guy.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:28:42 AM EDT
[#26]
I, for one, have no issues with cock-fags.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:31:27 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
I, for one, have no issues with cock-fags.

One would certainly hope not.


Link Posted: 1/25/2009 2:12:13 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
I hate the fact that Staff comes in here...


Meh.....It's not like we don't make them regret it everytime they do....
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 5:57:06 AM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 6:52:41 AM EDT
[#30]
You guys wanted big attention in the worst way, its my considered opinion that flying against the clear explanations of the entire htf, you got what you wanted.




Now if the 3 or so of you that wont let this go really have a set of balls, the poster above me is the one to call out over the injustice. Play stupid games-win stupid prizes, you guys are so close to winning.







Link Posted: 1/25/2009 6:59:34 AM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:06:02 AM EDT
[#32]
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:36:16 AM EDT
[#33]

<head down not making eye contact, quietly sneeks out side door...>
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 8:55:30 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I hate the fact that Staff comes in here...


Meh.....It's not like we don't make them regret it everytime they do....




Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:14:35 AM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:16:18 AM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:36:36 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:


Dont ya just fuckin hate it when people skip the chain of command?
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 9:37:58 AM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:07:25 AM EDT
[#39]
Interesting.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:55:07 AM EDT
[#40]
 as said before...stupid games...stupid prizes.

Too bad....Strat and Spyda will be missed here.  But..they're grown men and neither one is an idiot. They both  knew what the rules were, and pushed it, with predictable results.

Lets not lose any other members over this.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:05:28 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:

Lets not lose any other members over this.



I can think of a couple more that I would not mind seeing go in the crossfire..

Maybe we can make an exchange?















Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:11:59 PM EDT
[#42]
you know what I meant.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:20:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Lets not lose any other members over this.



I can think of a couple more that I would not mind seeing go in the crossfire..

Maybe we can make an exchange?




I think I already suggested that. Hell I even led the horse to water & double dog dared them!

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:23:50 PM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:44:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Lets not lose any other members over this.



I can think of a couple more that I would not mind seeing go in the crossfire..

Maybe we can make an exchange?

















Don't be a pussy.

Name names.


Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:48:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Lets not lose any other members over this.



I can think of a couple more that I would not mind seeing go in the crossfire..

Maybe we can make an exchange?





Believe me, I do not wish to lose anyone, over this or anything else.

The reason va-gunnut and I are here, is because we have enough respect for the members of this forum to take the time and explain our version of things, especially after seeing the lack of accuracy of some statements made by the OP in his opening post

When 1Gunrunner created the HTF, it was with the hope that it would serve as a gathering point where members could organize politically, socially, etc.
Unfortunately -if that can be said- when you have a tight group (like in this HTF,the AZHTF and others) people get a tribal mentality , and when one of them is in trouble (even by his own doing) others want to show solidarity by sacrificing themselves.

Well, showing solidarity is great, as long as it is done peacefully and within the rules, as most of you are doing. So, as long as it remains this way, we can continue to work through the issues with you



It is all good Ed, I doubt there is a single person in here that would think any other way from you.







But...


I please ask that you think on the following...



If Strat is gone, then our biggest whackjobs will be a tie between Matt45, and GrumpyM4...


We can put Strat in his place, but those two? No one can control them.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:50:31 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Lets not lose any other members over this.



I can think of a couple more that I would not mind seeing go in the crossfire..

Maybe we can make an exchange?

















Don't be a pussy.

Name names.





I would offer up Neo, and Bludd.


YMMV


I have been called an A$$hole, but I will not give anyone a reason to call me a Pu$$y
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:55:27 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Lets not lose any other members over this.



I can think of a couple more that I would not mind seeing go in the crossfire..

Maybe we can make an exchange?

















Don't be a pussy.

Name names.





I would offer up Neo, and Bludd.


YMMV


I have been called an A$$hole, but I will not give anyone a reason to call me a Pu$$y


I knew you weren't a pussy.
I was actually quoting you in case you forgot!

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 1:06:15 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Lets not lose any other members over this.



I can think of a couple more that I would not mind seeing go in the crossfire..

Maybe we can make an exchange?

















Don't be a pussy.

Name names.





I would offer up Neo, and Bludd.


YMMV


I have been called an A$$hole, but I will not give anyone a reason to call me a Pu$$y


I knew you weren't a pussy.
I was actually quoting you in case you forgot!




I know,

And if it is good enough for me to call someone out on it, I have no other choice but to be willing to do the same.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 1:07:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Lets not lose any other members over this.



I can think of a couple more that I would not mind seeing go in the crossfire..

Maybe we can make an exchange?

















Don't be a pussy.

Name names.





I would offer up Neo, and Bludd.


YMMV


I have been called an A$$hole, but I will not give anyone a reason to call me a Pu$$y


I knew you weren't a pussy.
I was actually quoting you in case you forgot!




I know,

And if it is good enough for me to call someone out on it, I have no other choice but to be willing to do the same.


One of the two have alredy been banned

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