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Posted: 12/1/2013 7:44:56 PM EST

So, I was in Troy for a little while yesterday, and decided to stop by the local WalMart. Naturally, I went to the ammo case, expecting to see the same few boxes of oddball calibers that we have on Long Island.

Holy crap!

Other than .22, the thing was packed. Big boxes. Small boxes. American ammo. Turkish ammo. Bosnian ammo.

Is it always like that these days? When I was there about a month ago, they had a little more than we do, but nothing like this!




Link Posted: 12/1/2013 10:13:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mech2007:

So, I was in Troy for a little while yesterday, and decided to stop by the local WalMart. Naturally, I went to the ammo case, expecting to see the same few boxes of oddball calibers that we have on Long Island.

Holy crap!

Other than .22, the thing was packed. Big boxes. Small boxes. American ammo. Turkish ammo. Bosnian ammo.

Is it always like that these days? When I was there about a month ago, they had a little more than we do, but nothing like this!




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Walmarts out here in MO have been starting to show plenty of common-caliber stock again. During the craze, you could always find a few boxes of .25, .243, various short-mags, and occasionally some .32. Last time I stopped at the big Walmart out here they had shelf after shelf of the 150-round 5.56 packs. Probably 10-15k of just 5.56, plus 7.62x39, almost all common pistol calibers, most rifle calibers, etc. ... All except .22.
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 1:08:33 AM EST
I was there Friday and the case wa packed. First time I have seen 30 cal ammo cans there
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 6:21:46 AM EST
How much have the prices changed from what they used to be? I didn't notice, but when I grabbed the Federal 100 packs a month back they had upped the price by about $5-$10/box compared to what the online price was listed as.

I figured the ones upstate would have the most stock compared to us flatlanders.
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 6:56:24 AM EST
That is the most ammo I have seen in the store in a year. It had been bare including common hunting ammo.
Federal 20 boxes would be about .45 per round if I remember correctly.
I am certain the 556 420 rounds of federal in a 30 cal can was $199.
They had some 720 (I think) cans of something I never heard of for 499.
I hadn't seen bulk ammo there before except for the UMC 250 boxes of pistol ammo.

Most of the 223/556 excluding Tula seemed to be .45 to .60 per round
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 9:02:17 AM EST
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Clifton Park/Halfmoon Wal-Mart has been good to me the past few weeks. Scored several bulk packs of .22lr and about 1000rnds of Fed 9mm bulk in 100 packs for $25.xx a box (1 box a day). Don't get used to it though. From talking to the counter clerks, they're still unsure if they will be selling ammo post SAFE deadline...

ETA: They've also had 45ACP most days, but I don't own a firearm in that caliber (yet?) so I didn't mention it.
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Originally Posted By thekid_1:
I am certain the 556 420 rounds of federal in a 30 cal can was $199.
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Yeah, so that's a $25 increase in price compared to what it was before. Still cheaper than Midway though.
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 9:55:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 10:01:15 AM EST
The industry did say 6 months to get caught up looks like they are making head way.

Kinda of convenient right around the holidays too. ill put my tin foil hat away now.
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 10:11:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jm5432:


Yeah, so that's a $25 increase in price compared to what it was before. Still cheaper than Midway though.
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Originally Posted By thekid_1:
I am certain the 556 420 rounds of federal in a 30 cal can was $199.


Yeah, so that's a $25 increase in price compared to what it was before. Still cheaper than Midway though.

More than many online retailers
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 11:38:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thekid_1:
That is the most ammo I have seen in the store in a year. It had been bare including common hunting ammo.
Federal 20 boxes would be about .45 per round if I remember correctly.
I am certain the 556 420 rounds of federal in a 30 cal can was $199.
They had some 720 (I think) cans of something I never heard of for 499.
I hadn't seen bulk ammo there before except for the UMC 250 boxes of pistol ammo.

Most of the 223/556 excluding Tula seemed to be .45 to .60 per round
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The 720 round cans were the stuff that said it came from Turkey. I'd have been very reluctant to drop $500 on unknown (to me) ammo, even if I needed it.

Link Posted: 12/2/2013 2:21:44 PM EST
My Walmart ( Glenville), has been stocked the last month. .22 is still hit and miss. Mostly miss.
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 2:25:36 PM EST
Local Walmart was pretty stocked today too, except for .22lr of course. They even had ammo cans of 5.56 from Turkey.
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 2:45:09 PM EST
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Same @ my local Wally World... Everything but 22lr... Guess I will have to stop in over the next few weeks prior to the new year and SAFE BS.
Link Posted: 12/2/2013 3:31:50 PM EST
The Troy and CP get there delivery (if any) on Thursday and it does not always get to the the case until Friday.
Link Posted: 12/7/2013 4:01:03 AM EST
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Just hit my wally, CP , this morning on the way home from work. CCI Mini-Mag 100rd for 7.99 with tax. First time I've 22lr there in over a year.
Bad thing is they will only sell 1 per day to each. And that really sucks.
Before this morning, never lucky enough to see 22lr in stock. Beats the hell out of $70 for 500 brick before tax at Zacks.
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You can get 1K rounds online cheaper than that.
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Originally Posted By Raptor22:
Originally Posted By Mech2007:
Originally Posted By thekid_1:
That is the most ammo I have seen in the store in a year. It had been bare including common hunting ammo.
Federal 20 boxes would be about .45 per round if I remember correctly.
I am certain the 556 420 rounds of federal in a 30 cal can was $199.
They had some 720 (I think) cans of something I never heard of for 499.
I hadn't seen bulk ammo there before except for the UMC 250 boxes of pistol ammo.

Most of the 223/556 excluding Tula seemed to be .45 to .60 per round



The 720 round cans were the stuff that said it came from Turkey. I'd have been very reluctant to drop $500 on unknown (to me) ammo, even if I needed it.



You can get 1K rounds online cheaper than that.



Until 2014 you can. Then we are at the mercy of the LGS and you know how magnanimous they are!
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Until 2014 you can. Then we are at the mercy of the LGS and you know how magnanimous they are!
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Originally Posted By Bushman_269:
Originally Posted By Raptor22:
Originally Posted By Mech2007:
Originally Posted By thekid_1:
That is the most ammo I have seen in the store in a year. It had been bare including common hunting ammo.
Federal 20 boxes would be about .45 per round if I remember correctly.
I am certain the 556 420 rounds of federal in a 30 cal can was $199.
They had some 720 (I think) cans of something I never heard of for 499.
I hadn't seen bulk ammo there before except for the UMC 250 boxes of pistol ammo.

Most of the 223/556 excluding Tula seemed to be .45 to .60 per round



The 720 round cans were the stuff that said it came from Turkey. I'd have been very reluctant to drop $500 on unknown (to me) ammo, even if I needed it.



You can get 1K rounds online cheaper than that.



Until 2014 you can. Then we are at the mercy of the LGS and you know how magnanimous they are!


that's if you are willing to let your name, DOB, address, type of ammo, number of rounds, and headstamp go into a state data base and get flagged for purchasing an unknown number or rounds getting put onto a domestic terrorist list somewhere in the bowels of Albany.
Link Posted: 12/7/2013 1:49:28 PM EST
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Ammo thing is DOA for right now. So keep those chins up buckeroos. Cumhole couldn't get the $$$ to implement that portion.
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Originally Posted By cldsandwch:
Ammo thing is DOA for right now. So keep those chins up buckeroos. Cumhole couldn't get the $$$ to implement that portion.
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Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.
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Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.
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Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By cldsandwch:
Ammo thing is DOA for right now. So keep those chins up buckeroos. Cumhole couldn't get the $$$ to implement that portion.


Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.
The man is right They are watching.
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Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.
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Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By cldsandwch:
Ammo thing is DOA for right now. So keep those chins up buckeroos. Cumhole couldn't get the $$$ to implement that portion.


Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.

So wait. The ammo thing is nixed, but can ammo still be ordered online thru the end of this year or not at all. I was just about to order some ammo online private party to private party.

I will admit I'm lost on all the fucking SAFE shit
Link Posted: 12/7/2013 4:08:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fttam:

So wait. The ammo thing is nixed, but can ammo still be ordered online thru the end of this year or not at all. I was just about to order some ammo online private party to private party.

I will admit I'm lost on all the fucking SAFE shit
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Originally Posted By fttam:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By cldsandwch:
Ammo thing is DOA for right now. So keep those chins up buckeroos. Cumhole couldn't get the $$$ to implement that portion.


Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.

So wait. The ammo thing is nixed, but can ammo still be ordered online thru the end of this year or not at all. I was just about to order some ammo online private party to private party.

I will admit I'm lost on all the fucking SAFE shit


PSA states in their terms in conditions that they will still ship to NY after the New Year but only to an FFL...if that helps any of you
Link Posted: 12/7/2013 4:18:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fttam:

So wait. The ammo thing is nixed, but can ammo still be ordered online thru the end of this year or not at all. I was just about to order some ammo online private party to private party.

I will admit I'm lost on all the fucking SAFE shit
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Originally Posted By fttam:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By cldsandwch:
Ammo thing is DOA for right now. So keep those chins up buckeroos. Cumhole couldn't get the $$$ to implement that portion.


Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.

So wait. The ammo thing is nixed, but can ammo still be ordered online thru the end of this year or not at all. I was just about to order some ammo online private party to private party.

I will admit I'm lost on all the fucking SAFE shit


You have literally a couple weeks to order/receive ammo. After that it has to go to a FFL and then the FFL has to collect all sorts of personnel information about you for a state data base.
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To add insult to injury, the ammo crunch is seriously limiting our ability to stock up.
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Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.
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Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By cldsandwch:
Ammo thing is DOA for right now. So keep those chins up buckeroos. Cumhole couldn't get the $$$ to implement that portion.


Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.

It's still not clear what records the dealer will be required to maintain for ammunition sales. The Buffalo News article states that in addition to the delayed background check no information will be required at this time for sales. I've yet to actually find any official statement form the NYSP that these articles refer to.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/state/safe-act-provision-on-background-checks-for-bullet-buyers-to-be-delayed-20131025

"The delay on implementing parts of the ammunition program on Jan. 15 means sellers will not have to start recording the date, name, age, occupation and residence of ammunition buyers. In addition, dealers also were going to be required in January to record the amount, serial numbers, manufacturer’s name and caliber of ammunition they sold. That information then could be inspected by police."
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 4:50:16 AM EST
The inability to finance this turd should be enough to deem it " unenforcable " .
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:12:37 AM EST
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http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=35012 It's still not clear what records the dealer will be required to maintain for ammunition sales. The Buffalo News article states that in addition to the delayed background check no information will be required at this time for sales. I've yet to actually find any official statement form the NYSP that these articles refer to.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/state/safe-act-provision-on-background-checks-for-bullet-buyers-to-be-delayed-20131025

"The delay on implementing parts of the ammunition program on Jan. 15 means sellers will not have to start recording the date, name, age, occupation and residence of ammunition buyers. In addition, dealers also were going to be required in January to record the amount, serial numbers, manufacturer’s name and caliber of ammunition they sold. That information then could be inspected by police."
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Originally Posted By rkbar15:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By cldsandwch:
Ammo thing is DOA for right now. So keep those chins up buckeroos. Cumhole couldn't get the $$$ to implement that portion.


Hardly. Online ammo orders are still nixed. I order all my ammo online. If you buy locally, they still must keep a detailed record of the mandated information (name, DOB, address, ammo type, amount, etc). Just because they aren't doing a background check doesn't mean they are collecting your info.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=35012 It's still not clear what records the dealer will be required to maintain for ammunition sales. The Buffalo News article states that in addition to the delayed background check no information will be required at this time for sales. I've yet to actually find any official statement form the NYSP that these articles refer to.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/state/safe-act-provision-on-background-checks-for-bullet-buyers-to-be-delayed-20131025

"The delay on implementing parts of the ammunition program on Jan. 15 means sellers will not have to start recording the date, name, age, occupation and residence of ammunition buyers. In addition, dealers also were going to be required in January to record the amount, serial numbers, manufacturer’s name and caliber of ammunition they sold. That information then could be inspected by police."


A solid answer on this would be welcomed
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AFAIK with only a few weeks left to register as an ammunition dealer there isn't even a process in place to do so. How they expect dealer's to apply for a license, put internal policies in place, train employees etc. or otherwise comply with the law and any associated regulations is beyond me.
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Originally Posted By rkbar15:

AFAIK with only a few weeks left to register as an ammunition dealer there isn't even a process in place to do so. How they expect dealer's to apply for a license, put internal policies in place, train employees etc. or otherwise comply with the law and any associated regulations is beyond me.
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Originally Posted By rkbar15:
Originally Posted By Castillo:

A solid answer on this would be welcomed


AFAIK with only a few weeks left to register as an ammunition dealer there isn't even a process in place to do so. How they expect dealer's to apply for a license, put internal policies in place, train employees etc. or otherwise comply with the law and any associated regulations is beyond me.


Yeah, this is a fucking mess. I know a few people who shoot for competition and all they do is order large amounts of specialty ammo online. They are pretty worried right now.
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You have literally a couple weeks to order/receive ammo. After that it has to go to a FFL and then the FFL has to collect all sorts of personnel information about you for a state data base.
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And we have heard ZIP about this "database" we're supposed to be entering info into
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

And we have heard ZIP about this "database" we're supposed to be entering info into
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By Castillo:

You have literally a couple weeks to order/receive ammo. After that it has to go to a FFL and then the FFL has to collect all sorts of personnel information about you for a state data base.

And we have heard ZIP about this "database" we're supposed to be entering info into



yuo, heard nothing. and i am still waiting on NY to get off its ass and process my NY dealers license. none of my references have been contacted yet. app went in in april when i got my FFL. fuckers.
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With any luck I should be able to get us all an answer in writing.
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yuo, heard nothing. and i am still waiting on NY to get off its ass and process my NY dealers license. none of my references have been contacted yet. app went in in april when i got my FFL. fuckers.
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I assume you mean your NY handgun dealers license.
Theres been no word on the dealers ammo license.
The handgun dealers license is your county doing whatever it does, not the state
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

I assume you mean your NY handgun dealers license.
Theres been no word on the dealers ammo license.
The handgun dealers license is your county doing whatever it does, not the state
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Originally Posted By RolandDeschain:

yuo, heard nothing. and i am still waiting on NY to get off its ass and process my NY dealers license. none of my references have been contacted yet. app went in in april when i got my FFL. fuckers.

I assume you mean your NY handgun dealers license.
Theres been no word on the dealers ammo license.
The handgun dealers license is your county doing whatever it does, not the state


yes NYS pistol dealers license, which supposedly allows you to sell ammo as well, and be ins possession of the evil "assault weapons". i know it's by county, but NYSP are involved in the process as well as county sherrifs dept, county clerk, county judge and a small dog and pony show.
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Are components considered ammunition? You would still be able to buy online as long as the retailer is cool with it..
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yes NYS pistol dealers license, which supposedly allows you to sell ammo as well, and be ins possession of the evil "assault weapons". i know it's by county, but NYSP are involved in the process as well as county sherrifs dept, county clerk, county judge and a small dog and pony show.
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Only a guess but my guess would be in the area of county judge and a small dog and pony show. I would call the local offices, if I got no good answers, I would then call to the State Police Pistol Permit Bureau. They may be able to get the wheels moving again on the local level. It worked for my neighbor, at every renewal, the process literally stops and his state license is in limbo, no pistol sales till it is back in effect. It also places him in a precarious situation with the law as far as possession of his stock. The County said it was the State. The last time he renewed, the call to Albany made it all happen in a matter of a few hours after the call. Coincidence, I don't think so.....Good luck.

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Are components considered ammunition? You would still be able to buy online as long as the retailer is cool with it..
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^ this?
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^ this?
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Are components considered ammunition? You would still be able to buy online as long as the retailer is cool with it..



^ this?


Shhhh, they will get around to that soon enough! Don't give the bastards rope to hang us with.
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