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Posted: 3/12/2021 11:50:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2021 12:15:37 PM EDT by CKyleC]
I'm sure you guys get these questions all the time, and if y'all are tired of answering, I understand.....that said here goes....

I am taking my family on a road trip for 11 days through Arizona and New Mexico.

I plan to travel north from Albuquerque and hit 4 corners, monument valley, and spend 2 nights in Page taking in a float trip at horse shoe bend, hiking, and possibly traveling to the north rim.

We will then spend 2 night in Grand Canyon Village doing south rim stuff.

We Will Not be hiking to the floor, unfortunately.

After the south rim, I'm having a hard time putting together an itinerary/route. We're thinking Sedona, Crater museum,  wife insists on standing on a corner in Winslow. I would like to travel through Phoenix and Tucson just to see them...

So, any insight is much appreciated. Please tell me about things I "have" to see and where my plan stinks.

Thanks for the help!

ETA...my son absolutely loves trains and dinosaurs...anything to do with those two would be a welcome addition to the trip.
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 12:18:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2021 12:22:46 PM EDT by ab15]
The meteor crater is well worth visiting and Winslow is not too far to combine visits.  The train ride from the Grand Canyon to Williams is fun and I always do that when family visits.

Sedona is breathtaking every time and has significant new age weirdness.  Your aura will thank you.  Take 89A south through Oak Creek canyon to Sedona.  Vey nice drive.  Go fast, make the kids nauseous.

Old Town Cottonwood is worth a couple of hours and can be combined with Jerome.  Jerome is a weird little town on the side of a mountain with a ton of quirky shops and such.  There is a train attraction in Clarkdale along the Verde river.  I have no info on that.

If you like, continue on 89A down the mountain through Prescott Valley and stop in Prescott.  The courthouse square and Whiskey Row are worth a couple of hours.  If you want to avoid I-17 you can stay on 89(no A) south down to Wickenburg then east to Phoenix.

I know little of Phoenix other than it's a big city with heat and very heavy traffic.

Good Travels
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 12:30:21 PM EDT
Thanks for all of that. It helps!

Also, I've been told the Apache Trail is a must
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 4:13:28 PM EDT
You don't say when your trip is going to be and it could make a real difference.  Summer heat is brutal in the Phoenix area (less so in Tucson).  If you are in the Prescott area around July 4th don't miss the World's Oldest Rodeo.  We haven't gone in the last couple of years but it's always been a whole lot of fun.  BTW, there's a statue in Winslow dedicated to the song where people usually stop to take a picture.
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 4:20:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Leakster:
You don't say when your trip is going to be and it could make a real difference.  Summer heat is brutal in the Phoenix area (less so in Tucson).  If you are in the Prescott area around July 4th don't miss the World's Oldest Rodeo.  We haven't gone in the last couple of years but it's always been a whole lot of fun.  BTW, there's a statue in Winslow dedicated to the song where people usually stop to take a picture.
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End of May/First of June

Link Posted: 3/12/2021 5:03:04 PM EDT
North Rim opens in May usually, so unless snowpack is insane you should be OK.  Stop at the Jacob Lake Inn on the way there for some awesome cookies.


I did a thing... from south rim of grand canyon on south.

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Link Posted: 3/12/2021 8:21:01 PM EDT
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oh, wow!! thank you @freeride21a
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 8:39:08 PM EDT
Tucson has Kartchner Caverns State Park and the Pima Air and Space Museum.  Also, the Titan II Missile Museum.

There's a McDonald's on the East side with a big T-rex statue thingy outside.
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 8:50:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Tucson has Kartchner Caverns State Park and the Pima Air and Space Museum.  Also, the Titan II Missile Museum.

There's a McDonald's on the East side with a big T-rex statue thingy outside.
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Lol...if we get anywhere near that McD's my boy will demand a 10pc nugget and a pic with the T-Rex
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 6:51:36 AM EDT
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I haven't rode it in many years, but you can take the Grand Canyon Rail from Williams out to the canyon.  If you come back out for Christmas they turn it into the Polar Express which was a huge hit for my kids when they were young.
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 7:16:07 AM EDT
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Jerome is a cool town, Petrified forest is along your route. Id skip the crater its just a hole in the ground. Monument Valley may still be closed but Valley of the Gods is in the same area just down the road.
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 8:21:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1goodshot:
Jerome is a cool town, Petrified forest is along your route. Id skip the crater its just a hole in the ground. Monument Valley may still be closed but Valley of the Gods is in the same area just down the road.
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Closed as in can't even drive down the highway?

That would be a route changer
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 11:40:16 AM EDT
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Closed as in can't even drive down the highway?

That would be a route changer
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Yeah, it's in the navajo reservation, lots of the res's went full lockdown with covid, including closing roads.   Looks like it's still closed, but that can change.
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 11:56:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By freeride21a:


Yeah, it's in the navajo reservation, lots of the res's went full lockdown with covid, including closing roads.   Looks like it's still closed, but that can change.
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Well, shit. US Highway 163 is closed? Is that the same for the highway 64 that runs along the South Rim?

ETA: googled it, HWY 163 is not closed. The Tribal Park is
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 12:03:38 PM EDT
Not sure which way you're going home, but I'll add in Bisbee & Tombstone.  Bisbee has the Queen Mine Tour, along with seeing the Town.  And Tombstone will offer the the Old West experience, including re-enactment shows like the shootout at the OK Corral.  And they're only about a 25 minute drive from each other.

I would also highly recommend "Old Tucson", but it's now closed.
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 12:10:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dump1567:
Not sure which way you're going home, but I'll add in Bisbee & Tombstone.  Bisbee has the Queen Mine Tour, along with seeing the Town.  And Tombstone will offer the the Old West experience, including re-enactment shows like the shootout at the OK Corral.  And they're only about a 25 minute drive from each other.

I would also highly recommend "Old Tucson", but it's now closed.
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We will definitely check these out. Thanks!
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 3:11:13 PM EDT
Sounds like a great trip.

State Rt 88 between Roosevelt and Phoenix is closed indefinitely.

Mesa has an excellent natural history museum with a strong emphasis on Dinosaurs!
https://www.arizonamuseumofnaturalhistory.org

I always recommend Walnut Canyon National Monument just outside of Flagstaff for cool hike and up-close look at native dwellers. Montezuma’s Castle is also an easy stop and hike.
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 4:15:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By winmagbill:
Sounds like a great trip.

State Rt 88 between Roosevelt and Phoenix is closed indefinitely.

Mesa has an excellent natural history museum with a strong emphasis on Dinosaurs!
https://www.arizonamuseumofnaturalhistory.org

I always recommend Walnut Canyon National Monument just outside of Flagstaff for cool hike and up-close look at native dwellers. Montezuma’s Castle is also an easy stop and hike.
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I knew they closed it a year or so ago due to fires/flood related issues.. thought they had reopened it.  looks like NOPE.. last 9mi are still closed.

Sorry we are slowly ruining your trip man LOL!

https://azdot.gov/projects/southeast-district-projects/state-route-88-apache-trail
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 9:08:23 PM EDT
Not ruining it at all....it's all good info and I appreciate the help!
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 11:04:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Leakster:
You don't say when your trip is going to be and it could make a real difference.  Summer heat is brutal in the Phoenix area (less so in Tucson).  If you are in the Prescott area around July 4th don't miss the World's Oldest Rodeo.  We haven't gone in the last couple of years but it's always been a whole lot of fun.  BTW, there's a statue in Winslow dedicated to the song where people usually stop to take a picture.
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There are two.  Glenn Frey and Jackson Browne.

Best entertainment in that town is the drunks pouring out of the bars, passing out on the street.
Link Posted: 3/19/2021 9:13:37 AM EDT
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It might be closed, but Page has a dam tour where you go inside of Parker dam for a very reasonable price. Antelope canyon is on tribal land and has some hoops to jump through ($) is neat if it's open. It books out in advance. 4 corners is on tribal land and might be affected by the current situation.
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Glen canyon dam, not Parker. Damn dams.
Link Posted: 3/19/2021 3:40:05 PM EDT
I'll just say that every suggestion already posted is good.  One thing to remember around the Flagstaff area and especially Walnut Canyon (which I highly recommend) is that you're around 7k feet, you can get gassed pretty easy if you're not used to the elevation.  Lot of stairs at Walnut Canyon, kids should be fine though.
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Link Posted: 3/26/2021 8:58:52 AM EDT
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Jerome is a a quick side trip from Sedona, Cottonwood or Prescott
Chiricahua National Monument is definitely a must see. It's a 2 hour drive from Tucson but worth it. Miles of uncrowded trails.
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City of Rocks in Southern New Mexico is a great place to camp for the night and let the kids run wild.
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Link Posted: 3/28/2021 10:00:59 PM EDT
The good info just keeps coming.

Thanks y'all!!

I had no idea 4 corners was on tribal land. If it's affected, that completely changes my route
Link Posted: 3/28/2021 10:36:54 PM EDT
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About 30 miles east of flagstaff, there is an old roadside attraction called two guns. There are ruins of buildings and a cave.

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/az-twoguns/

Just north of the 40 at the same exit, is something train related that is cool.  It’s on reservation land, so it might not be accessible.  Diablo canyon has a large train bridge going over it.  You usually see at least 1 freight train while your there.  There are stairs on the underside of the bridge that are interesting to be on when the train is over you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canyon_Diablo,_Arizona


Pictures of the train bridge and some of two guns.

https://www.google.com/search?q=diablo+canyon+az&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS895US895&hl=en-US&prmd=mniv&sxsrf=ALeKk00TXYfPE1pOZiKB01-QBQ4mOQnMEw:1616985326495&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiM_Pffu9TvAhXfHDQIHXb2AaoQ_AUoA3oECAIQAw&biw=834&bih=993&dpr=2


Link Posted: 3/30/2021 12:51:18 PM EDT
plenty of good suggestions already, I will add monument valley and antelope canyon assuming the res is open by the time you visit.

Unless someone just has to go to four corners, I would suggest skipping.  Every person I have talked to regrets going even those that really wanted to go beforehand.

The pima air & space museum plus the missile silo in Tucson are great destinations if you are into that sort of thing.  

Not sure there is much in Phoenix worth doing that time of year, it will already be pretty hot.  Indoors, if you are musically inclined, there is a Musical Instrument Museum that people travel the world over to visit.  Not something I am particularly interested in, but I cannot imagine a better museum dedicated to musical instruments.  Its quite impressive.

Heard museum has an extensive collection of Native American exhibits in Phoenix.
Link Posted: 4/2/2021 8:25:13 PM EDT
I'm going to second going to Kartchner Caverns (not Tucson, you heathens! It's in Cochise County), Tombstone, and if you are into freaky leftists, Bisbee. Bisbee is a bit of a pain because of parking, but some of the shops are worth it.

Tombstone is fun due to the history there.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 7:28:58 PM EDT
Bumping this up....

Thanks for everyone's help so far, it really helps and I appreciate it.

Looks like we're doing one night in Page, one in GC Village, one in West GC, 2 in Sedona, and one in Tuscon/Tombstone area.

I'm having trouble nailing down exactly what we should do with our time in Sedona. Devil's bridge, slide rock, some star gazing, airport at sunset....what else?

Also, we're going by Roosevelt Lake on our trip from Sedona to Tuscon/Tombstone. I want to see the cliff dwellings close to the lake. Anything else in that area?
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 12:30:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CKyleC:
Bumping this up....

Thanks for everyone's help so far, it really helps and I appreciate it.

Looks like we're doing one night in Page, one in GC Village, one in West GC, 2 in Sedona, and one in Tuscon/Tombstone area.

I'm having trouble nailing down exactly what we should do with our time in Sedona. Devil's bridge, slide rock, some star gazing, airport at sunset....what else?

Also, we're going by Roosevelt Lake on our trip from Sedona to Tuscon/Tombstone. I want to see the cliff dwellings close to the lake. Anything else in that area?
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Not much to do at Roosevelt Lake other than lake stuff and Tonto National Monument as a drive by. (great canyoneering on the other side of the lake, and the bass and crappie fishing is awesome).  The dam is neat too. (of course I used to do the IT for that hydro plant, so im biased)

Look up Montezuma's Castle, and Montezuma's Well ruins... its off I17 in Camp Verde before you get to the 260.  And on the 260, once through Pine, there is Tonto Natural Bridge State Park.

Devils Bridge is awesome.  There is the Church in the rocks, I mean all of Sedona is one giant post card.  

in Pine is a pizza joint called Old County Inn.. probably some of the best pizza in AZ... if not the southwest.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:37:46 PM EDT
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If it’s Winslow, pick the right corner...it’s a small town, not hard to find, just listen for the song playing, and just south of Flagstaff, and north of Sedona, look at Flagstaff Xtreme, it’s a park with a pretty cool obstacle course, hit up Groupon or other sites and tickets can be had pretty cheap



Link Posted: 4/16/2021 2:18:18 AM EDT
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Quoting Free ride... Look up Montezuma's Castle, and Montezuma's Well ruins... its off I17 in Camp Verde before you get to the 260.  And on the 260, once through Pine, there is Tonto Natural Bridge State Park.

You gotta see Montezuma castle. It's the quintessential tourist trap, though a national monument. On the 17 around camp verde. Gotta see it to say you did.

Montezuma of the Aztecs was nowhere near here. . it is a cliff dwelling that you get to take pictures of from a distance.

Tuzigoot national monument is a dwelling you can go in. The admission covers both, or did. This one is east a bit toward Jerome not far from the "castle."

If in Tucson the air and space museum and titan missile site are neat. Look at San Xavier del Bac. It's an old Spanish mission and still an active church. Go during non-mass hours (not Sunday) but be respectful (even if it's not your cup of tea) as some people will be praying no matter when you go. Free to visit.
Link Posted: 4/16/2021 12:39:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Beretta_Jerry:
Quoting Free ride... Look up Montezuma's Castle, and Montezuma's Well ruins... its off I17 in Camp Verde before you get to the 260.  And on the 260, once through Pine, there is Tonto Natural Bridge State Park.

You gotta see Montezuma castle. It's the quintessential tourist trap, though a national monument. On the 17 around camp verde. Gotta see it to say you did.

Montezuma of the Aztecs was nowhere near here. . it is a cliff dwelling that you get to take pictures of from a distance.

Tuzigoot national monument is a dwelling you can go in. The admission covers both, or did. This one is east a bit toward Jerome not far from the "castle."

If in Tucson the air and space museum and titan missile site are neat. Look at San Xavier del Bac. It's an old Spanish mission and still an active church. Go during non-mass hours (not Sunday) but be respectful (even if it's not your cup of tea) as some people will be praying no matter when you go. Free to visit.
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LOL.. yeah, its still totally neat, and it is literally next to the freeway.  I personally liked the Well.  Tuzigoot is definitely cool too... its about 40min away from Montezuma though.
Link Posted: 4/17/2021 9:43:10 PM EDT
Phoenix has a cool aquarium, butterfly atrium, and a dinosaur exhibit all indoors. It also is right next to the casino. A little further up the freeway or down depending on your direction of travel is the MIM museum or musical instrument museum and is a really neat place with kids. The Heard museum is also a very overlooked attraction that is unique to the state. Lots and lots to do not everything here has a huge sign or is advertised to much so allot is overlooked especial by the local and even more so from our residents from other cities. Phoenix is a very much word of mouth city as if you dont have friends in a few different circles you'll miss out on allot because its not all out there easy to find. If you come around the first of the month first Friday n downtown is always a good time even if just to people watch.
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