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Posted: 8/19/2006 3:10:57 PM EDT
What's the lifespan of an AR barrel...

Are we likely to wear out an AR barrel and how many rounds are we talking.

In mine I've shoved a few different rounds through it. About...600 NATO FMJ, 500 reloaded FMJHP, 300 .223 lead and about 6-700 22lr. Always cleaned thoroughly in between

Lifespan....

Taffy.
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 3:34:48 PM EDT
[#1]
Working on the Mousegunner-UK principle I have never cleaned mine since I bought it.... 3000+ rounds later.......

Interested where this thread goes.....
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 3:35:46 PM EDT
[#2]
Quite a few thousand more before you need to start worrying!!

My first barrel had around 5,000 rounds of mixed reloads & RG through it before I noticed it wasn't quite as good as it used to be... It's still perfectly usable, just not so good for competition use.

ETA: I'm assuming your barrel isn't chrome lined either..

Edit 2: In that 5,000ish rounds it was cleaned 'properly' twice, the rest of the time was just a boresnake being pulled through it a couple of times.
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 3:47:08 PM EDT
[#3]
5000 rounds seems to be a ballpark figure....shit ...that aint much.
I read recently about an expensive sniper rifle that was good for 3000 rounds and I thought that aint much for your £££.

Imagine (some of us remember)if we had semi auto or full auto....you'd soon use up the lifespan then.

I was sure mine was chrome lined....Matt knows..

Taffy

ETA I clean mine almost after every shoot.
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 6:25:27 PM EDT
[#4]
To be honest I've never shot out a barrel, mind you it's certainly possible over time and round count.  

But how do you know when it's shot out beyond your grouping capacity, could be 2000 rnds, 3000 rnds, 4000 rnds or 20000 rnds?: depends on your skill, expectations and record keeping.

Most guns shoot better than the nut on the butt, but if it makes you feel better get a new barrel; unless you know for certain that it’s the barrel that’s gone adrift you would be wasting your money.

Barrels do wear out, ask Streetfighter to show you a picture. When the rounds start to go through the target sideways it might be time to change; sooner for bench rest later for ETR.
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 6:41:16 PM EDT
[#5]
Non-chromed, I get between 3500 and 5500 (stainless and chrome-moly) of match-grade accuracy.  They still shoot good at 200/300 but throw bullets at 600.  Chrome lined can be several thousand more, but are usually are not as accurate initially.  

IMHO, .22's don't count against the life unless you don't clean them.  I believe the plasma formed with regular ammo causes most of the damage.

SRM
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 11:48:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2006 1:01:03 AM EDT
[#7]
My original 1:10 Olympic barrel had upwards of 12/13K but I wanted to shoot heavier bullets so I swapped it. The first 2" or so are smooth.
The latest barrel on it has done 4K and is still shooting fine.

My M4gery barrel was made from the same barrel stock as streetfighter's and it also died rather suddenly at around the same count (+/- 5K). I believe ACR26 had a similar one do the same thing. Streetfighter told me his predicament, but my barrel still shot great, then at the last NRA Open Day last year it suddenly wouldn't group on the target at 300. It was a very sudden change from "great for ETR" to "scrap bin".

The original Olympic really only had FC55 and 62gn factory through it with some RG) but the M4gery had almost exclusively RG and in quick succession May be part of the reason.

Matt
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 3:28:25 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I believe ACR26 had a similar one do the same thing.
Matt


Yep, same batch, same round count.

However, for it's replacement I can say:- Go chrome or go home
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 12:15:37 PM EDT
[#9]
Mine was more accurate after 3000 rounds than after shooting it in with the first 300

When I sold it it would still pull 1/2" 5 shot groups at 100.

Richard
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 1:03:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2006 2:46:07 PM EDT
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Mine's done about 8.5k and is still hits pretty well at 600 but it's due for a change. It definately isn't as good as it used to be and I get the odd unexpected miss that should have been a solid hit, but it's still useable. Apart form the first 2000 or so rounds of 69 grain the rest has been 77grainers.  I just can't trust it anymore and that means it's got to go.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 2:53:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2006 3:04:22 PM EDT
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Sooooo.....hty.gif


Well, If those people that RNsubmariner loves so much  don't send me an aditional bill for a recent arrival, I think we'll be having a little chat soon.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 3:21:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2006 2:33:03 AM EDT
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Just an aside on the tumbeling RG you can get RG to do that at 25yds by putting it through a slow twist rate barrel as demonstrated by one of the guys at the club on Saturday morning, but was  fine through a Saiga M4 with a more military twist rate. I wasn't aware it was quite that dramatic.
I'll try and find out how  many rounds mod armourers think it takes to wreck a barrel
and post later.
Link Posted: 8/21/2006 3:15:00 AM EDT
[#16]
I had the Hornaday 68's keyhole from mine when it was almost new...

Just one of those things...so I'm told.

Taffy

BTW I started this thread out of curiosity not because I was worried it was wearing out
Link Posted: 8/21/2006 9:21:07 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I'll try and find out how  many rounds mod armourers think it takes to wreck a barrel
and post later.


They are chrome lined, so thousands of rounds, the L85 is not touched until it doesn't gauge correctly, or never as they are a real bitch to barrel change! The upper flexes and bends unless you are very careful
Link Posted: 8/21/2006 9:28:46 AM EDT
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