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Posted: 4/27/2015 7:10:37 AM EDT
I found one guy on gunbroker but he doesn't rate condition, says they aren't C&R (would be nice), and says they could have either Hogue, Pachmayr, or OEM wood grips.  Anyone else have these that you know of?  I know Century has VG condition 10-8's for $279+$32 shipping.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 7:42:40 AM EDT
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Bud's gunshop showing them in stock.  4 inch square and round butts
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 8:30:13 AM EDT
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I would think any police trade-in Model 10s would be pretty dusty by now. It's been quite a while since police carried .38 special revolvers. More likely, "armed car company trade-ins"

That said, Bud's guns has them: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/654_910/Police+Trade-Ins/

Also, J&G has some Model 64 revolvers (think Model 10 in stainless): http://www.jgsales.com/handguns-c-16_211_431.html
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I found one guy on gunbroker but he doesn't rate condition, says they aren't C&R (would be nice), and says they could have either Hogue, Pachmayr, or OEM wood grips.  Anyone else have these that you know of?  I know Century has VG condition 10-8's for $279+$32 shipping.
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Link Posted: 4/27/2015 8:40:28 AM EDT
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Are there 357 trade ins?

Who would have them?

Txl
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 10:24:20 AM EDT
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The heyday of police revolver trade ins is long gone.  Batches show up from time to time.  Most will be security company guns or foreign.  38 Specials will be far more common than 357.  Most will have a Century Arms stamp.  Many will be DAO.  Condition is all over the place.  Most will be well used with an occasional diamond in the rough.

I collect Model Tens and am always on the lookout for them.  Getting hard to find decent ones at a reasonable price.
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Lowest price I've seen in years but those look really rough.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 11:51:38 AM EDT
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Were those stored in the warehouse? Or on the roof of the warehouse?
Link Posted: 4/28/2015 12:11:30 AM EDT
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The current batch of S&W M10's from Buds is still from Australian police and the guns have been carried a lot and show wear but are mechanically sound. The M64s that Buds and others recently sold are ex-Brinks security guard guns.

They get a lot of attention and coverage on the S&W forum and last fall I was alerted to a deal of S&W M64 Brinks trade - ins for $200. Since revolver are now rarely seen as service guns and have usually had a long service life, condition is generally not great - and the prices aren't either.

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next time, alert me too please
Link Posted: 4/28/2015 7:18:09 AM EDT
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The current batch of S&W M10's from Buds is still from Australian police and the guns have been carried a lot and show wear but are mechanically sound. The M64s that Buds and others recently sold are ex-Brinks security guard guns.

They get a lot of attention and coverage on the S&W forum and last fall I was alerted to a deal of S&W M64 Brinks trade - ins for $200. Since revolver are now rarely seen as service guns and have usually had a long service life, condition is generally not great - and the prices aren't either.

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The grips on that revolver second to the right are worth nearly the price of the gun . . . well, maybe not "worth" but they sell for nearly that.
Link Posted: 4/28/2015 1:00:29 PM EDT
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I think he might have put them on there after he got it.  Those grips are nice though!
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The grips on that revolver second to the right are worth nearly the price of the gun . . . well, maybe not "worth" but they sell for nearly that.
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The current batch of S&W M10's from Buds is still from Australian police and the guns have been carried a lot and show wear but are mechanically sound. The M64s that Buds and others recently sold are ex-Brinks security guard guns.

They get a lot of attention and coverage on the S&W forum and last fall I was alerted to a deal of S&W M64 Brinks trade - ins for $200. Since revolver are now rarely seen as service guns and have usually had a long service life, condition is generally not great - and the prices aren't either.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/imagejpg1_zps448814e7.jpg



The grips on that revolver second to the right are worth nearly the price of the gun . . . well, maybe not "worth" but they sell for nearly that.



I have bought FGC grips since they were $5 at the gun shows. I have seen some sell on Ebay recently for $275. I like the FGC for the square butt  but find the round butt version  to not fit me as well. I always have a few spare FGC grips in the safe in case that I find a new host. The Nills on the revolver to the right are giving a better and more comfortable grip but cost around $160.




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I have bought FGC grips since they were $5 at the gun shows. I have seen some sell on Ebay recently for $275. I like the FGC for the square butt  but find the round butt version  to not fit me as well. I always have a few spare FGC grips in the safe in case that I find a new host. The Nills on the revolver to the right are giving a better and more comfortable grip but cost around $160.


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The current batch of S&W M10's from Buds is still from Australian police and the guns have been carried a lot and show wear but are mechanically sound. The M64s that Buds and others recently sold are ex-Brinks security guard guns.

They get a lot of attention and coverage on the S&W forum and last fall I was alerted to a deal of S&W M64 Brinks trade - ins for $200. Since revolver are now rarely seen as service guns and have usually had a long service life, condition is generally not great - and the prices aren't either.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/imagejpg1_zps448814e7.jpg



The grips on that revolver second to the right are worth nearly the price of the gun . . . well, maybe not "worth" but they sell for nearly that.



I have bought FGC grips since they were $5 at the gun shows. I have seen some sell on Ebay recently for $275. I like the FGC for the square butt  but find the round butt version  to not fit me as well. I always have a few spare FGC grips in the safe in case that I find a new host. The Nills on the revolver to the right are giving a better and more comfortable grip but cost around $160.


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/imagejpg1_zpsf7a12d0d.jpg



I have a set on my surplus Missouri Highway Patrol 686. Those were the department-issued grips. They were definitely styling with those revolvers. I agree, the square butt version does feel better (My 3-inch CS-1 currently sports a set of the round butts) . . .

Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:56:31 PM EDT
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I miss the days of $250 S&W Model 686 trade ins.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 8:50:22 PM EDT
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I just got one of the Gunbroker heavy  barreled guns in. It's in good shape mechanically with some holster wear. There's a tiny gouge in the cylinder, and the backstrap is straight patina with some minor pitting. The rest of the gun is a shiney deep blue with some minor scratches. It wears a set of (literally) hacked up Pachmayr grips. I'll get some pics once the new grips come in and I clean it up some.

It looks much better than the guns in the ad. The CAI import mark is a bit of a bummer, but oh wells. Some Flitz should clean it up good. It's a 10-8 square butt.

It's going to be a shooter for the boy as he has ideas of my magnum snub being his favorite gun. Unacceptable!
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I paid $279  for a S&W 686 CS-1. That darn thing had the infamous floating hand giving it a mediocre D/A pull at best. I prefer a S&W M65 by far over the CS-1.
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when did you order it?
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 9:10:26 PM EDT
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I ordered a 10-5 from Century. I actually ordered a 10-6 but changed my mind and went with the 10-5. My LGS couldn't cancel the 10-6 so both are enroot. I might buy the 10-6 too if its decent. Its a crap shoot though for both.
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what condition ones did you order?  they seem to have quite a few to pick from.
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VG. I was told the "good incomplete" are only missing the grips though
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Whats the difference between the -5 and -6?
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Whats the difference between the -5 and -6?
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I ordered a 10-5 from Century. I actually ordered a 10-6 but changed my mind and went with the 10-5. My LGS couldn't cancel the 10-6 so both are enroot. I might buy the 10-6 too if its decent. Its a crap shoot though for both.



Whats the difference between the -5 and -6?


the 5 has the tapered barrel, the 6 a heavy barrel. I think there was a minor change to the 10-5

10-2 (1961): change extractor rod thread for standard barrel
10-3 (1961): change extractor rod thread for heavy barrel, change front sight width from 1/10" to 1/8"
10-4 (1962): eliminate trigger-guard screw on standard barrel frame
10-5 (1962): change sight width from 1/10" to 1/8" for standard barrel
10-6 (1962): eliminate trigger-guard screw on heavy-barrel frame
10-7 (1977): change gas ring from yoke to cylinder for standard barrel
10-8 (1977): change gas ring from yoke to cylinder for heavy barrel
10-9 (1988): new yoke retention system, radius stud package, floating hand hammer nose bushing for standard barrel
10-10 (1988): new yoke retention system, radius stud package, floating hand hammer nose bushing for heavy barrel
10-11 (1997): MIM hammer/trigger + floating firing pin for standard barrel
10-12 (1997): MIM hammer/trigger + floating firing pin for heavy barrel
10-13 (2002): limited production 1899 commemorative edition
10-14 (2002): internal lock
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 4:21:32 PM EDT
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Thanks for that.
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VG. I was told the "good incomplete" are only missing the grips though

who told you that?  they refused to give any hint of what might be wrong with them when I ordered
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VG. I was told the "good incomplete" are only missing the grips though

who told you that?  they refused to give any hint of what might be wrong with them when I ordered

My LGSs Century rep told them that.
Link Posted: 5/7/2015 5:19:25 PM EDT
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The 10-5 came I today, I would say bluing is 70-75%. It has original grips but someone removed the checkering. Mechanically it seems fine, very smooth trigger pull. It has a stamped rack# but no agency identifier.

EDIT: These are factory non-checkered grips.  I thought they were all checkered
Link Posted: 5/7/2015 11:38:59 PM EDT
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Mine was purchased two weeks ago.

20150504_092953 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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It's a bright blue with heavy holster wear. There are scratches throughout, especially on the right side. The backstrap is devoid of any finish and has some dings. The action shows obvious signs of use, though the recoil shield does not. I can only assume that it was dry fired a lot but not fired much with live ammo. The action is not the tightest I've come across, but is smooth and serviceable. The production date is 1980.
Link Posted: 5/8/2015 6:43:49 PM EDT
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$250.00 Three years ago.



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The 10-5 came I today, I would say bluing is 70-75%. It has original grips but someone removed the checkering. Mechanically it seems fine, very smooth trigger pull. It has a stamped rack# but no agency identifier.

EDIT: These are factory non-checkered grips.  I thought they were all checkered
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So you purchased a good incomplete from century?

I'm on their website looking around right. Lots of different options
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I'm on their website looking around right. Lots of different options
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The 10-5 came I today, I would say bluing is 70-75%. It has original grips but someone removed the checkering. Mechanically it seems fine, very smooth trigger pull. It has a stamped rack# but no agency identifier.

EDIT: These are factory non-checkered grips.  I thought they were all checkered

So you purchased a good incomplete from century?

I'm on their website looking around right. Lots of different options

I ordered a very good, 10-5, 10-6, 19-4 and a good 15-3.   The 19-5 and 10-6 are "really" nice, the 10-5 is a little "less" nice and the 15-3 is OK, lots of bluing wear on that one , pretty loose cylinder but lockup seems fine. I didn't trust Century on the "good incomplete" info so I didn't order that grading.
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I ordered a very good, 10-5, 10-6, 19-4 and a good 15-3.   The 19-5 and 10-6 are "really" nice, the 10-5 is a little "less" nice and the 15-3 is OK, lots of bluing wear on that one , pretty loose cylinder but lockup seems fine. I didn't trust Century on the "good incomplete" info so I didn't order that grading.
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The 10-5 came I today, I would say bluing is 70-75%. It has original grips but someone removed the checkering. Mechanically it seems fine, very smooth trigger pull. It has a stamped rack# but no agency identifier.

EDIT: These are factory non-checkered grips.  I thought they were all checkered

So you purchased a good incomplete from century?

I'm on their website looking around right. Lots of different options

I ordered a very good, 10-5, 10-6, 19-4 and a good 15-3.   The 19-5 and 10-6 are "really" nice, the 10-5 is a little "less" nice and the 15-3 is OK, lots of bluing wear on that one , pretty loose cylinder but lockup seems fine. I didn't trust Century on the "good incomplete" info so I didn't order that grading.

Thanks for the info

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Here's what I found on the Century site in my price range. I removed the prices because I think posting prices is frowned upon.

I'm thinking about one of the VG conditions model 10's but not sure which one specifically. This would be my first revolver.

Any suggestions or pointers?


Revolver S&W 10-8 38spl 4"Heavy Barrel - poor incomplete condition
Revolver S&W 10 38spl 4"taper barrel - good incomplete condition
Revolver S&W 10-5 38spl 4"bbl - good incomplete condition
Revolver S&W 10-5 38spl 4"taper barrel - good incomplete condition
Revolver S&W 10-7 38spl 4"bbl - good incomplete condition
Revolver S&W 10-8 38spl 4"Heavy Barrel - good incomplete condition
Revolver S&W 10-8 38spl 4"bbl - good incomplete condition
REVOLVER S&W 10-5 38SPL 4"TAPER BBL NICKEL
REV S&W 49 38SPL 2"BBL BLUE. GOOD, INCOMPLETE CONDITION
Revolver S&W 10 38spl 4"taper bbl - good condition
Revolver S&W 10-5 38spl 4"bbl - good condition
Revolver S&W 10-5 38spl DA 4"Heavy Barrel - good condition
Revolver S&W 10-5 38spl DAO 4"taper barrel - good condition
REVOLVER S&W 10-6 38SPL 4"BBL. GOOD CONDITION
REVOLVER S&W 10-7 .38SPL 4"TPR. GOOD CONDITION
Revolver S&W 10-7 38spl 4"bbl - good condition
REVOLVER S&W 10-8 38SPL 4"BBL. GOOD CONDITION
S&W 10-8 Revolver 38spl. DAO 4" Heavy barrel - good condition
REV S&W 10-10 38SPL DA 4"HB. GOOD CONDITION
Revolver S&W 10-10 38spl 4"bbl - good condition
Revolver S&W 10-10 38spl 4"taper barrel blue - good condition
Revolver S&W 10-10 38spl. DAO 4" Heavy Barrel - good condition
REVOLVER S&W 64-6 .38SPL. GOOD CONDITION
Revolver S&W 10-5 38spl 4"bbl - very good condition
REVOLVER S&W 10-6 38 SPL 4"BBL. VERY GOOD CONDITION
Revolver S&W 10-7 38spl 4"bbl - very good condition
REVOLVER S&W 10-8 38SPL 4"BBL. VERY GOOD CONDITION
Revolver S&W 15-3 38spl 4"taper barrel blue - good incomplete condition
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10-8 heavy
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Stick with the "very goods" higher dash 10s. its still a gamble, I like the looks of the tapered barrels better.
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You guys are making me jealous with your model 10's!!!
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Here is my 10-5 and 10-6 from Century. I put Franzite grips on the 10-5 and new magna type on the 10-6
I ordered a few Tyler grips too in bronze, silver and black.
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They look pretty good, particularly the tapered barreled one. How much were they, if you don't mind me asking?
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I've been watching a RHKP 10-7 here. It is on consignment at $279 after the latest price drop and I have been on the fence. It was rode hard and put away wet but not totally hashed out, so I'm hoping they drop it again and I might snag it.
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Lowest price I've seen in years but those look really rough.
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Lowest price I've seen in years but those look really rough.

I couldn't resist anymore at that price, I just picked mine up today and it is in pretty good condition, looks like the one in the middle of this page, but has Hogue grips.
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The Hong Kong guns are running about $500.  I've been looking for one for a long time.
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The Hong Kong guns are running about $500.  I've been looking for one for a long time.
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The Hong Kong guns are running about $500.  I've been looking for one for a long time.


Not from what I saw when I looked on GB, and maybe in nice shape but this thing was pretty beat, of course maybe I was wrong.

Regardless, it sold shortly after my post, so it's a goner. I don't really need another M10 type revolver, especially considering the mediocre condition, and I scored a nice 629-4 last week so I'm not too upset. What are you gonna do?
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I would really like to have a 3 inch Model 13 .....
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The 3 inch k frames are very hard to find.  People that have them never sell.  The blued models are especially scarce.  

Arguably Smith's best carry revolver.
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Speak for yourself. I desire a 5 inch early Model 10 or M&P. Doesn't look like I'll have one anytime soon.
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Speak for yourself. I desire a 5 inch early Model 10 or M&P. Doesn't look like I'll have one anytime soon.


There is a pawn shop here with one. Be forewarned, he wants a mint for it ($795 for it IIRC).
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There was a 5" pre model 10 M&P locally that I really liked, but they were just too proud of it. No bigs. The HB ain't as pretty but it is arguably the better shooter with that extra mass up front. There is some merit in it being a current configuration as well.

This is elsewhere, but a set of cheap grips fixed it up nice.
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It shoots just fine, too:
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I would think any police trade-in Model 10s would be pretty dusty by now. It's been quite a while since police carried .38 special revolvers. More likely, "armed car company trade-ins"

That said, Bud's guns has them: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/654_910/Police+Trade-Ins/

Also, J&G has some Model 64 revolvers (think Model 10 in stainless): http://www.jgsales.com/handguns-c-16_211_431.html
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There's still a lot of revolvers in the State prison armories. I don't believe we've seen many of them in the trade-in pipeline yet.
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There's still a lot of revolvers in the State prison armories. I don't believe we've seen many of them in the trade-in pipeline yet.
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I would think any police trade-in Model 10s would be pretty dusty by now. It's been quite a while since police carried .38 special revolvers. More likely, "armed car company trade-ins"

That said, Bud's guns has them: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/654_910/Police+Trade-Ins/

Also, J&G has some Model 64 revolvers (think Model 10 in stainless): http://www.jgsales.com/handguns-c-16_211_431.html


There's still a lot of revolvers in the State prison armories. I don't believe we've seen many of them in the trade-in pipeline yet.



I was going to chime in with this.   There are still plenty of county jails and state prisons with their revolvers.
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I was going to chime in with this.   There are still plenty of county jails and state prisons with their revolvers.
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I would think any police trade-in Model 10s would be pretty dusty by now. It's been quite a while since police carried .38 special revolvers. More likely, "armed car company trade-ins"

That said, Bud's guns has them: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/654_910/Police+Trade-Ins/

Also, J&G has some Model 64 revolvers (think Model 10 in stainless): http://www.jgsales.com/handguns-c-16_211_431.html


There's still a lot of revolvers in the State prison armories. I don't believe we've seen many of them in the trade-in pipeline yet.



I was going to chime in with this.   There are still plenty of county jails and state prisons with their revolvers.


I was going to add this too

Thanks to a certain union and it's employees who refuse to transition to Glock, there's a large number of Model 10's sitting in arsenals in several state institutions. I've heard rumors of Chief's Specials from way back in the day still in the arsenal. The agreement is once the last of those who trained on the revolver retire, the state can remove them from service.
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