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Posted: 5/13/2011 2:26:36 PM EDT
So im looking at a Rossi model R46202 .357 magnum snubnose revolver. the primary use will be CC. i noticed these guns were relatively inexpensive, and are now owned by Taurus.  i know that Taurus is not in the same class as a Smith or Ruger, but it seems that i shouldnt spend extra $$ on a Ruger or Smith, seeing that this gun may be scratched and shot very often. ANY input is appreciated, and your experience with Rossi or Taurus is appreciated! thanks guys
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 2:53:54 PM EDT
[#1]
In my experience Rossi either before or after becoming part of Taurus was clearly a cut below Taurus in all areas of QA, fit and finish. Their metallurgy used to be suspect and the ones I had open and worked on were pretty rough.
If you are going to shoot this a lot I suspect it will rapidly go downhill in terms of timing and lockup.

I actually think that Taurus makes a worse gun now then they did years ago and am in the process of selling my last one now.

Any reason it needs to be a .357? shooting that in a 2" bbl is not fun and frankly beyond most shooters skill ability to make quick follow up shots YMMV

If it were me I'd go with the S&W. 640 However the Ruger SP 101 is damn near bulletproof and you've got some neat options in terms of bbl length and package deals

You know what they say  "buy once, cry once"

Hope this helped.

Mr B.

Link Posted: 5/13/2011 3:23:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Personally I believe price should be pretty low on the things to consider when picking a cc gun that you may have to use to defend your life with. Also a 357 snubbie is a hand full and for less than $50 more than that Rossi you can get a proven reliable S & W 642 in 38 special.


ETA: I do have several older Taurus revolvers that I like but from the things I have heard about newer Taurus guns I would never buy one for use as a cc gun.
Link Posted: 5/14/2011 3:17:20 PM EDT
[#3]
If that's all you can afford, buy it. I only buy S&W or Colt revolvers.
Link Posted: 5/15/2011 11:10:27 PM EDT
[#4]
a buddy of mine bought one about 3 years ago. I laughed at him then. I think he paid $239 for it OTD new. He has fired a ton of full house 158 grain magnums out the thing, and even more .38 specials. It's never skipped a beat and it's fairly accurate to boot! For the price, I wouldn't hesitate to own one. I have much more respect for this Rossi then any taurus or Charter revolver I ever met...
Link Posted: 5/16/2011 12:42:15 PM EDT
[#5]
remember that it will not only be shot a lot ,scratched a lot and generally worn to hell and back. if god forbid you need it to take out some illdoing zomby, your life or the lives of your familly will depend on the one on your belt .  how much do you want to save on this puschase?
Link Posted: 5/16/2011 1:25:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Gunbroker has several SP101's for under $450.  That is not much coin for a gun that will outlive you and your kids.

- AG
Link Posted: 5/17/2011 5:49:04 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
If that's all you can afford, buy it. I only buy S&W or Colt revolvers.


Ruger makes good handguns and I will not be overly harsh on the taurus 66 357 magnums I have shot several and they are nice just not as smooth as a Smith.
Link Posted: 5/17/2011 2:17:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
a buddy of mine bought one about 3 years ago. I laughed at him then. I think he paid $239 for it OTD new. He has fired a ton of full house 158 grain magnums out the thing, and even more .38 specials. It's never skipped a beat and it's fairly accurate to boot! For the price, I wouldn't hesitate to own one. I have much more respect for this Rossi then any taurus or Charter revolver I ever met...


THIS. i want experienced buyers, owners, users. thanks for the advice. Even though its primary use will be CC, its still a revolver. I.E. simple and reliable. not too much to go wrong. the Rossi felt good in my hands. too bad they arent allowing free target practice at the gun store
Link Posted: 5/17/2011 2:22:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Gunbroker has several SP101's for under $450.  That is not much coin for a gun that will outlive you and your kids.

- AG


and thanks for this. will definitely be checking this one out now!
Link Posted: 5/17/2011 2:27:20 PM EDT
[#10]
I got my hands on a snubby and fooled around with it for about 30 seconds. In that 30 seconds I determined that rossi were piles. I could move the cylinder 1/16th of an inch up and down. It moved even more radially and that was on a new gun. Ever since that day I have sworn them off.
Link Posted: 5/17/2011 3:36:05 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Gunbroker has several SP101's for under $450.  That is not much coin for a gun that will outlive you and your kids.



- AG




and thanks for this. will definitely be checking this one out now!


I paid about $250 OTD(used) for my SP101. It's fired more magnums than specials and it's still as tight as the day I bought it. It isn't a gun to carry on your ankle or in your pocket though.



 
Link Posted: 5/22/2011 5:10:09 AM EDT
[#12]
I own a taurus snub nose and a rossi snub nose. Taurus is 38  only while the rossi is 357mag. Both are good reliable guns and I have shot many rounds out of both, but I am currently looking for a  Ruger SP. They are by far better built guns then the other two. May have to get a GP also to round out the line
Link Posted: 5/22/2011 5:17:05 AM EDT
[#13]
i would not use a rossi firearm, long or short, to prop open a window, much less depend of them with my life.  

go to your local gunshop and snoop around the used revolver display.  it won't take long for you to bump into a nice s&w or ruger.  the 638 bodyguard with the shrouded hammer in stainless is nice.  i picked one up a used one in perfect condition with a box and all the papers for about $350.  

the 442 is a well known and reputable firearm.  i'd own a kel-tec before i'd own a rossi.  

-tom
Link Posted: 5/22/2011 7:07:08 AM EDT
[#14]
I am convinced that a Ruger will out last any other revolver. My 30 year old Security Six is as tight as the day Ii bought it. It's had a few thousand down the pipe...mags and .38s...probably more .38s but that is a cost issue. Love my Rugers. And the previous poster is correct, gunbroker can be your friend on a good used revolver.
Link Posted: 5/22/2011 4:08:43 PM EDT
[#15]
I can't comment on the newer ones, but we have two pre-Taurus Rossi's, a .38 Sp and a .357. Both have a lot of trouble-free rounds through them. The adjustable sight on the .357 would shoot loose after awhile, but Loctite solved that.
Link Posted: 5/24/2011 9:26:50 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
If that's all you can afford, buy it. I only buy S&W or Colt revolvers.
Ditto on that. I buy only Colt and S&W. Over the years, these guns hold their value way better and some actually appreciates. Rugers will hold their value, you will at least get what you paid.

BUT,  then if you get into a "serious, social confrontation," the local PD could take your gun and not give it back for a long time, if they give it back.
Link Posted: 5/25/2011 5:35:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Rossi = junk.  Look for a used S&W model 10 or 15 if you are on a budget
Link Posted: 5/25/2011 5:35:53 PM EDT
[#18]
If you intend on throwing it at your adversary, then I would recommend it. It's much more accurate whilst throwing as opposed to shooting it.
Link Posted: 5/26/2011 2:22:07 PM EDT
[#19]
I've actually thought about picking up a Rossi snubnose .38 as an alternative CCW to my (current) usual Kahr.

The primary reason I've considered getting one is so that I could have a CCW that I wouldn't worry about leaving in my vehicle as a plan B, or checking as baggage when traveling on short trips.  I say this after having to track my Glock 26 down after it didn't make the trip out of Chicago.  I certainly would have been less concerned if I were out the $250 for the Rossi in that scenario.

I wonder how many folks that dismiss them actually have trigger time with one.  Not to say that they are the benchmark of quality, but they could be perfectly serviceable if not the pinnacle of craftsmanship.

I've owned many S&W and Ruger revolvers in numerous frame sizes, and while I appreciate their quality and even resale value, the Rossi design seems sound as it is largely just dated S&W technology.

Perhaps some Rossi owners or former owners could chime in on their experience with them.  Given my druthers I'll take a Smith too, but the price is tough to beat, and they don't appear to be in the same class as say a Jennings .25.




Link Posted: 5/28/2011 5:55:09 PM EDT
[#20]
I have a pre-Taurus Rossi 88 in stainless steel, .38 spl. I also have a new S&W Model 36 Classic in nickel finish. The Classic looks nicer, but guess which one shoots nicer?? The Rossi trigger pull is smooth as glass and shoots to point of aim. Not quite the case with the Model 36.
Link Posted: 5/29/2011 5:20:48 PM EDT
[#21]
I have an old one with a non fluted cylinder and a "comp" barrel extension.  Never had a problem with it.  
Link Posted: 5/29/2011 5:26:13 PM EDT
[#22]
Don't do it. Friends don;t let friend buy Rossis. They are junk. Anyone that can;t make a revolver that doesn;t jam probably can;t fry an egg either.
Link Posted: 5/29/2011 6:05:11 PM EDT
[#23]
I purchased the Academy Black Friday Special for $200.  Gun looked  great but timing was off.  Spend a little extra money and avoid Taurus/Rossi.  My SP101 has been good for me.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 5:56:19 PM EDT
[#24]
I've owned 2 S&W's, 1 was a 6" can't remember the model i scewed up and sold it, 2 is a 642, and a Ruger GP100 4". All have been well worth the money. The 642 is my most recent revolver. I got it for $300 in like new condition.  The 642 is one hell of a gun. I love it. It is quickly becoming my favorite to carry. I just ordered an Apex kit for it.

As someone said, if that is what you can afford get it. If you can save up a little more and keep your eyes open, you can find a good deal on a Colt, S&W or Ruger.
Link Posted: 6/21/2011 9:10:47 AM EDT
[#25]
I bought a Rossi 720 .44 special back in 1993 or 94, paid $200 for it NIB.  Shot two boxes of Blazer 200 JHP's though it that first year and have reloaded 100 rounds a year ever since  (250 gr Thompson GC over 7.5 grains of Unique).

Gun still shoots like a fucking laser, 2" groups at 25 yards all day long.  I have in the past 19 years also owned four S & W revolvers, three Colts, two Rugers and a half-dozen Cimarrons.  Some of the guns have been more accurate, some haven't, but none have been as accurate and as good a value dollar-for-dollar as the Rossi.

I also own two Interarms-era Rossi 92 rifles and they are great guns.  I bought a Rossi Coach Gun in 2002 and it was an absolute pile of soft pot-metal shit.

Your results may vary.
Link Posted: 6/21/2011 5:11:27 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Gunbroker has several SP101's for under $450.  That is not much coin for a gun that will outlive you and your kids.

- AG


and thanks for this. will definitely be checking this one out now!


Yeah I think a used one would be great, the SP101 can be fired A LOT even with .357s and it is built like a tank.
If you don't mind the extra width also look at the older Ruger Security-Six models, they can be found for around $300 and are great shooters.
Link Posted: 6/22/2011 5:17:04 PM EDT
[#27]
I use to work at a gun shop that would run sales on Taurus and Rossi revolvers about once a month, and every time they did, I would end up sending quite a few back for warranty service. I wasn't very impressed!
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 8:02:21 AM EDT
[#28]
My first gun was a Rossi. I still have it, and it still gives me problems. It's got timing issues and the hammer gets hung up if you try to decock it.
Link Posted: 6/23/2011 8:48:51 AM EDT
[#29]
I have a 3" rossi .357 mag, an Academy Special bought in January. The firing pin tip broke off. Good news was 4 days round trip to fix.

To be honest, I had run about 200 rounds of full house 357 through it and it was accurate. I ran about 20 rounds of 38 special and it leaded up so bad that the cylinder wouldn't turn. I fluffed and buffed and it helped a little. They are pretty roughly made. I might have broken the firing pin by dry firing the gun after cleaning it, but damn. I am not encouraged. At best it would be a last-ditch trunk gun for when I run out of 9mm in my carry gun.

I think It is going to have a boating accident.

I am going to pick up a SW .357, I am shopping now.
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