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Posted: 10/27/2009 4:16:11 PM EST
Has any one heard of this? glock guide rod springs going bad and needing replacment after 2500 rounds. i just put 3000 down range two weeks ago and it looks fine. any one else heard of this?
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 4:20:10 PM EST
I have three Glocks and I've never changes the springs. The only one I have that many rounds through is my 23. Still runs 100%
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 4:20:13 PM EST
Some of mine have over 4000 on them still running strong. I have cracked one before at the base of it but replaced it no problem since.
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 4:39:56 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 5:22:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By TheMercenary:


+1

I have 5000+ through my G30, and haven't had any problems.
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 6:27:37 PM EST
glocks arent 1911s
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 6:28:11 PM EST
There is a difference between something going bad and performing preventative maintenance. In the past few years, Glock has begun teaching its armorers to recommend changing springs out on guns about every 3000 rounds or so.

Just because that is the recommendation doesn't mean the recoil assembly is just automatically bad and needs to be changed on the spot. Think about how fucking stupid that sounds.
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 7:24:46 PM EST
I put 40,000 rounds through my 21 before I changed it to a non captured tungsten with a 20# spring, by choice. The OEM still looks and shoots fine.
Link Posted: 10/27/2009 8:04:33 PM EST
Between 15 and 20K through my Glock19. Still using the factory one.
Link Posted: 10/28/2009 12:29:30 AM EST
Originally Posted By TheMercenary:


Link Posted: 10/28/2009 3:48:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2009 3:49:28 AM EST by airgunner]
I've read that Glock recommends to replace the recoil spring every 5000rds as preventive maintenance but as noted above, many people have gotten a lot more the that out of them. I don't know who told you the 2500rd story but who ever it is was FOS
Link Posted: 10/28/2009 12:51:48 PM EST
thats what I thought i got 3000 through mine and i havent had anything like that. just wanted to make sure no one else has heard this bs.
Link Posted: 10/28/2009 3:21:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2009 3:22:50 PM EST by ViniVidivici]
What makes you think it's bad?

The factory, as far as I know, recommends replacing .40 springs every 3,000 rnds, and 9mm every 5,000 rnds.

ETA: and I don't think they're necessarily "bad" after this point, just that this is optimum for reliable performance and weapon longevity.

There are folks who've gone 10,000 + rnds before changing the spring on a 9mm, but I won't be doing that.
Link Posted: 10/28/2009 5:20:53 PM EST
If it was an issued duty weapon, I would replace it.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 1:12:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2009 1:13:29 PM EST by EternalVigilance]
Originally Posted By Islandboy671:
If it was an issued duty weapon, I would replace it.


What if it was a non-issued duty weapon, or an issued off-duty weapon?

I'm just being difficult here...but if its worth replacing for a work gun, why isn't it worth replacing for a personal one?


I mean, hell, these the run about the cost of a box of ammo.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 3:12:07 PM EST
Just completed the glock basic armorer today through my agency and they advised that pm could be conducted every 3500 - 4000 rounds on leo guns in 40 caliber. I have way more through both my personal and duty glocks, and the instructor even said that he atttends shooting courses that go through that many rounds in a few days. I think it is a recommended practice, but obviously not necessary.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 3:14:03 PM EST
forgot to add...I think the guide rod and spring are now sold/packaged as one unit and are no longer distributed separately...hope this helps...
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 4:57:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By EternalVigilance:
Originally Posted By Islandboy671:
If it was an issued duty weapon, I would replace it.


What if it was a non-issued duty weapon, or an issued off-duty weapon?

I'm just being difficult here...but if its worth replacing for a work gun, why isn't it worth replacing for a personal one?


I mean, hell, these the run about the cost of a box of ammo.


Actually you"re right. I just kind of threw that comment out there without thinking. I would change it out for my personal Glock anyways.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 4:59:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By gd3:
forgot to add...I think the guide rod and spring are now sold/packaged as one unit and are no longer distributed separately...hope this helps...


They've been doing that for many years now.
Link Posted: 10/30/2009 3:18:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By ViniVidivici:
Originally Posted By gd3:
forgot to add...I think the guide rod and spring are now sold/packaged as one unit and are no longer distributed separately...hope this helps...


They've been doing that for many years now.




That is a bit of an understatement. I think by the time the first Glock made it here to the United States in 1986 they were already equipped with the captured recoil spring assembly.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:32:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By H53EXPERT:
That is a bit of an understatement. I think by the time the first Glock made it here to the United States in 1986 they were already equipped with the captured recoil spring assembly.


That didn't happen until around 91 or 92, IIRC.

My '93 G17 had a captured spring assembly when I bought it new, but there was another 2nd gen gun on the used shelf that had the older non-captured unit. Any 1st gen gun is going to have the older non-captured unit if it was kept in original condition.

Those non-captured units make reassembly a pain in the ass, as I found out when I stripped that early 2nd gen gun to show the salesman something.
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