Pistol: HK P30L, V3
Caliber:  9mm
Ammunition:

S&B
Federal
WWB
Blazer Alum
American Eagle
Magtech
Aguila
Lawman (124g)

(All 115g unless otherwise noted. The gun was already between cleanings when I saw this idea, therefore I don’t know all of the different ammo manufacturers’ round count, or the exact starting date.)

Dates of testing: 6/?/2010 – 7/3/2011
Total rounds fired: 2,028 (3,200 total thru gun)
Stoppages: 4**
Malfunctions: 2***
Breakages: 0

I used two OEM magazines throughout the whole test. I put the gun through the same mini-range-safe-tests as the others.

-I shot it at 0* and 180* (homeboy style, both sides) but not 270* (upside down) because I didn't feel safe doing so at the range.
-Multiple times I hand loaded a round into the chamber from the top with the slide open, then inserted a fully loaded mag to make sure it would cycle. It did.
-I didn’t do the two finger limp-wrist like I did with the USP (mainly because I forgot), but my wife and mom were able to shoot the gun without any limp-wristing issues.
-Alternated ammo in magazines.
-The gun was fired with and without a TLR1 on

**Stoppage one was at the 8XX range due to a weak box (yes, whole box) of Federal from WalMart. I could tell as soon as I started shooting, every round was weak. The shells were barely ejecting, not going more than a few inches above the slide and hitting me in the wrist.  Eventually, one stove-piped. I blame the ammo.
***Malfunction one was WWB at 9XX range, and it was also a stove-pipe. Ammo I was shooting felt solid. I blame the gun.
**Stoppage two was my wife shooting, at 11XX range. I was at the table loading mags and she called me over.  There was a FTFeed, however I noticed the mag was coming out of the grip.  Either she didn’t seat it hard enough or hit the mag release while shooting. I don’t know; she didn’t know. I blame user error. (I almost didn’t put this one but the directions say to report ALL stoppages.)
***Malfunction two was with Blazer Aluminum at 18XX.  There was a stovepipe on the last round in a magazine. I blame the gun.

Other notes:
-Still one of the most comfortable and accurate pistols I’ve ever shot.  If someone said they’d give me a million dollars to hit a quarter at 10 yards with a pistol, this is the one I’d pick.
-It also seemed to like the 124g ammo better. I don’t know if the extra slide weight of the L version that might make the slide a little more sluggish using 115g rather than 124g, or it was just designed around the NATO 124g bullets (which I read somewhere), but it seemed to favor 124g rounds.  It is what it is.









And cleaned up for the first time in over a year:

Bump to see if anyone else is doing this. I am working on my USPc 40 right now and should be past half way by the end of the day tomorrow.  This will be my fifth gun through...

Got 1600 through my M&P in 2 months, so far the front sight has drifted and it shoots 2 inches left @ 4 yards benched.


No other problems though.



Sight drift

Is it against the rules to fix that?

Would you waste ammo shooting with the sight like that just to complete the "challenge"?  I'd concern myself with a real functioning issue instead of just a loose sight, but I didn't make up the rules, either.  I'm just saying what I'd do.

I called S&W to ask if it was normal for my rear sight to be loose enough to push easily by hand they essentially said maybe. They said the sights are made by a different company and vary, some are super tight some are not. They told me I could send it in for them to look over if I wanted, I said screw it I'll throw some loctite on the set screw and crank it down.

My only concern is I'v been thinking about having some night sights installed and hope my dovetail isnt out of spec.

Isn't it really rough on a handgun to go that long without cleaning or lubricating?

Not if it is a quality gun.



 

Pistol: HK USPc 40
Caliber:  40
Ammunition:

WWB - 400 (180g)
Federal - 500 (180g)
PMC - 500 (180g)
PMC - 100 (165g)
Blazer Alum - 200 (180g)
Blazer Brass - 50 (180g)
MagTech - 250 (180g)
S&B - 100 (180g)

Dates of testing: 7/?/11 - 9/4/11
Total rounds fired: 2,100 (5,000 total thru gun)
Stoppages: 0
Malfunctions: 0
Breakages: 0

I hadn't fired this gun in a while so I added some Hoppes lube before starting. I bought the gun new in 2007 to be my first CCW gun. I used three OEM magazines: two with finger rest and one flat base-plate I added for better concealment. It ran all 2,100 rounds during the test - as well as all 5,000 rounds total - with no stoppages, malfunctions, or part breakages what-so-ever.  This gun is an absolute tank.

-I shot it at 0* and 180* (homeboy style, both sides) but not 270* (upside down) because I didn't feel safe doing so at the range.

-Multiple times I hand loaded a round into the chamber from the top with the slide open, then inserted a fully loaded mag to make sure it would cycle. It did.

-I tried to limp wrist it to the point where I was only using two fingers to shoot the gun: my thumb wrapped around the back and my trigger finger.  The gun tried to jump out of my hand after a few times so I quit doing it.

-Alternated ammo in magazines.

- I put the grip on it when I bought it. It was a compact grip so it tore a little but never got worse until today. I cut it off and probably won't replace it.

- I got a small blister on my right (shooting hand) thumb. I guess shooting a bunch of 40 in a short period of time will do that. No biggie.

- The slide release would start to get warm after about 300+ rounds in one session. It never got hot enough where I had to stop using the gun. Again, no biggie.















I guess when you practice with a gun this much, you start to get pretty good with it. (12 rounds SA; 12 rounds DA only; 48 rounds DA into SA, 21' unsupported).



After cleaning, sans grip:




...and so concludes my 5th gun through this challenge.

FWIW, 3 out of the last 4 m&ps ive changed sights on i was able to take the factory rear sight out by pushing with my thumb.  New rear sights still needed to be pressed in, as well as the front sights.  Problem seems to be the rear sights themselves.  Small sample size, but its my experience with them.  The one that didnt just push out was a 9 and the rest were 45s, not sure if that has anything to do with it.

FINALLY finished the 2k Challenge with my Dan Wesson Valor. I would also like to thank this thread for pushing me to finally setup a reloading bench (along with a shooting log to make any OCD happy) and I couldn't be happier.
I ran my mildly custom DW Valor after having it Ionbonded (only 250 rounds prior to this). Just before the challenge I replaced mainspring and recoil spring and a stainless steel Wilson extractor, I put some gunkote on the back and tensioned it, no fitting or blending.
Oil used was Slip EWL, I wish I had used something thicker, I realized soon into the challenge that most of my oil pooled during storage on the rack, the only thing still wet after disassembling was the recoil plug, but the the barrel would "sweat" after warming up for the first 1500 rounds or so. But the gun shot pretty well through all weather, I did start dropping slide via "sling shot" after the FTF on 9/9/11, just to give the slide some extra umph to feed the first round.
Most of the rounds were through the Tripps, after that the Wilsons (with Tripp internals) and CMCs.
Today was the first time I stripped it, pictures kind of degraded as I lost sun light, but there was no way I was putting that thing in the safe dirty after taking a look inside.




the players:








Tight guns arent reliable

I m glad to see this thread still going! I am about half-way with my SA 1911 =)

Bump. 85% complete with my next one.  Stay tuned...

Pistol: sig p226 platinum elite (20 round mecgar mags)
Caliber: 9x19mm
Ammunition: atlanta arms 9mm 115gr
Dates of testing:august 1 2011 - october 2nd 2011
Total rounds fired: 5890
Stoppages: zero
Malfunctions: zero
Breakages: zero

i am a instructor and shoot 1000+ rounds per class students shoot 2500 but i have been doing classes very often lately and have 3 more scheduled just so happens i get my sig p220 compact sas with srt in tomorrow so i will have a new post for you soon also a side note (still havent cleaned the 226 just put in a range bag)

All of the following over 2k rounds no stoppages. Nothing but the factory lube. Ammo from Georgia arms to wolf to tula, to federal and everything in between.
Glock 23
Hk uspc 9

Now over 2k rounds bought used shoot as is.
Hk uspc 45 1 failure. Remmington umc click no bang  then hit twice more in double action mode and still didn't go off. Other xd45 wouldn't set it off either. Same array of ammo fed to it.

Springfield 1911 loaded. Failed before 600 rounds no fail to fire just failure to feed, partison feeds Ect. With stock 7 founders and with chip mcormic mags.

Pistol: Sig P226 Combat, TB
Caliber:  9
Ammunition:

Blazer Alum - 900 (115g)
Remington UMC - 100 (115g)
Aguila - 700 (124g)
PMC - 200 (115g)
WWB - 100 (115g)

Dates of testing: 9/2/2011 thru 10/7/2011
Total rounds fired: 2,000 (2,250 total thru gun)
Stoppages: 0
Malfunctions: 0
Breakages: 0

I love the FDE frame so I went with the Combat over other 226s. The place I bought it only had the TB, but doesn't matter to me either way.  Through the test I used three, 20 round Megar Mags and the two 15 round mags it came with. Just some range-friendly tests I put it through.

- Alternated ammo in magazines.
- Multiple times I hand loaded a round into the chamber from the top with the slide open, then inserted a fully loaded mag to make sure it would cycle. It did.
-I tried to limp wrist it to the point where I was only using two fingers to shoot the gun: my thumb wrapped around the back and my trigger finger.  
-My wife was able to shoot it too, which is basically a limp wrist test in itself
- I shot it at 0* and 180* (homeboy style, both sides) but not 270* (upside down) because I didn't feel safe doing so at the range.

I found the gun seemed to prefer 124g ammo.  115g seemed to be a little sluggish.  However, there were no failures with the 115g so I digress.

Interesting wear pattern/area on the barrel.








You can see in this pic the slide rail is completely dry.  You can also see some of the anodize chipped off the frame from me putting on and taking off my TLR1. I only did it like five times. Not too happy about that but I'll get over it.




She and I were getting along pretty well on this day...


And gun number six is through the test.

So what was all that talk about US made Sigs being junk?

Good job as usual Spartan!

Pistol: Beretta 92FS
Ammo: Blazer Brass, 115 gr Federal, 124 gr Winchester NATO
Total Round Count: just over 6,000
Dates: Beginning December 2009 until now
FTE: 0
FTF: 0
Locking block broken: 0
Notes: Bought the pistol used, installed new Wolf springs. Used in two Governor's Twenty matches with no issues. Will be going through 3-4K rounds between now and January.

Disclaimer: The pistol was cleaned every 300 or so rounds, so it was not a torture test so much as a reliability test.

It's cool and all your gun has 6k through it without a failure, but that's not exactly the point of this thread.

Somebody forgot to tell Spartan and Thatguy that newer SIG's can't possibly be well built and reliable. J/K of course....

Duh. My bad. I'll start over and get back to you. Should get to 2K by Jan. 1.

Love this gun.

How does the anodizing look on the rails?

Cool.  I did my 92FS and it’s in here somewhere. Had three failures during the 2k challenge. The gun has 10k+ through it and those have been the only three failures it’s ever had. Love that gun.

It looks really good and the color is very consistent.  Except of course where some got chipped off, but I blame my own carelessness more than anything. I guess I should have been more careful when removing the TLR1. Metal on anodized metal isn’t the best, I suppose.  

This

I'd be interested in seeing how long the frame on the pistol lasted. It's a SS model or normal alluminum frame?

Challenge Accepted

I didn't see anywhere that it is for centerfire pistols only,










 

My Colt Gov't Model is up to around 400 rounds counted since it has been in my possession and has had ZERO stoppages so far. The old guy I bought it from says it was flawless for all the years he owned it and I believe him. I'm wishing I has 2000 rounds of .45ACP to run this test.

Aluminum frame... plain Jane, run of the mill 92FS.  11,150 total rounds to date. I think the 92FS frame is good for 30k+. It was the 96's frames that had fatiguing issues because of the 40, I believe.  The 96A1 fixes that.

This test is what pushed me to finally start reloading





I would be equally if not more impressed with a rimfire

Placeholder for Ruger 22/45 and XDM 9 5.25, starting test on XDM tomorrow and putting another 350 through the 22/45




 

 

I have 4k rounds through my sig 226 in .40..there's a slight shine on the underside of the top rail the slide rides between. Nothing else. I was using mostly CLP and militec but now use TW25b..

I wasn't intending to do the 2,000 round challenge, but it just turned out that way. So, I'll post the results for your information. The pistol "tested" was a Glock 23 RTF2 .40 S&W. The pistol began the test with 3,000 rounds through it, cleaned, lubricated, and with a new factory recoil spring assembly installed. The pistol was not cleaned or relubed during the 2,000 rounds fired through it. Ammo fired through it during the test was a mix of all factory Remington, Winchester, or Federal 180 grain FMJ.

From round 1 through approximately round 1,500, the pistol experienced no failures. From round 1,500 through round 2,000, the pistol experienced 3 failures. I do not know the exact round number because these last 500 rounds were fired during a class. The three failures were all the same. It was a simple fail to feed where the bullet made it up the feedramp and into the chamber, but the case did not come all the way out of the magazine. In all three cases, the "tap" on the bottom of the magazine sent the slide the rest of the way into battery and the round was fired without incident.

2,000 rounds without cleaning or relubing summary, 3 fails to feed toward the end of the test fixed with "tap."

What was more interesting was what continued to happen after 2,000 rounds. With exactly 2,000 rounds without cleaning, and exactly 5,000 rounds on the pistol in total, I went to my IDPA classifier course. (Yes, I should have cleaned and relubed before this ) From round number 2,000 through approximately round number 2,050, the pistol experienced around 10 fail to feed malfunctions, same as above, all fixed with a "tap." At round 2,050, I applied lube to the pistol in hopes of getting through the classifier. From round 2,050, after lubing, through round 2,100, the pistol experienced another 3 or 4 similar fail to feed malfunctions.

It appears, based on this, that 2,000 rounds is the very upper limit of my G23RTF2's proper functioning without cleaning or relubing, and that number is more like 1,500 to be safe.

To ensure that the dirtiness, and not the pistol itself, was the cause of the malfunctioning, I cleaned and lubed the pistol after round 2,100, or the pistol's total round count of 5,100. I went to the range with 300 rounds to test the pistol. All 300 rounds were fired without malfunction. The fail to feed malfunctions disappeared after the cleaning and relubing.

What this taught me was that my Glock will not function indefinitely without cleaning and relubing. This is my "trainer" pistol, so regular cleaning is not needed for safety reasons. But my new MO going forward with this range weapon is to clean and relube it every 1,000 rounds and to continue to replace its recoil spring assembly at 3,000 round intervals.

Great learning experience!

A friend and I have done this test.  No log book, but we wondered the same thing and set up our own test.  He ran a 9mm sig and I ran a glock17.  We ran in the neighborhood of 3000 in two months.  No breakages and no malfunctions.  We both had stoppages, the sig more than the glock, but we attributed that to magazine issues.  Both guns ran fine and I would trust either.  Both guns already had thousands of rounds through them.  I run glocks and he runs sigs, but only because his duty weapon is a sig and he wants muscle memory on it.  Hope this counts a contribution.  
-Green.

just an update i have yet to clean this gun since i first read this post and after this weekend im at 7120 flawless rounds i will attempt to reach 10k before cleaning it but we shall see anyways apparently me and spartan just got lucky 2/2 us made sigs that run like a scalded dog and are tougher than a pine knot

Stoppages: zero
Malfunctions: zero
Breakages: zero

wow, 7k no lube is pretty impressive. Looking forward to some dirty pics

i use tetra gun grease after a cleaning on the rails where the slide and frame come together just a thin layer of it and it tends to stay on and rarely collects any power its miraculous stuff (just a note i have not applyed any since directly before the 7k

Wow, impressive.

I am hoping to put my P229 40 through this test, but I am not even half way there yet... maybe within the next couple of months.

Finished the test on my 22/45, update in OP.

Bump. Anyone else?  I have two guns sitting at 1200 right now and a bunch of ammo on the way.

Pistol: Sig P229
Caliber: 40
Ammunition:

Blazer Alum - 1200 (180g)
Federal – 700 (180g)
Blazer Alum – 100 (165g)

Dates of testing: 10/16/2011 thru 2/5/2012
Total rounds fired: 2,000 (2,000 thru gun total)
Stoppages: 0
Malfunctions: 0
Breakages: 0

Picked up this 229 NIB at a local show because the price was too good to pass up.  I don’t know what the people who say, “US made Sigs are no good” are talking about because this thing is built like a brick-shithouse, is accurate, and is obviously reliable.  I feel like I could use this to build a deck in my back-yard.  It’s ridiculously heavy duty and I could tell as soon as I picked it up. I used the two, 12 round mags that came with it (MecGar) and one, 14 round mag (MecGar) through the entire test. I love this gun… if anything ever happened to my USP45, this gun would be my go to HD gun. I also have a carry rig for this gun and have, do, and will continue to carry it (I carried it throughout this test, too).

For what it’s worth, the Federal ammo I was shooting felt way underpowered – which isn’t surprising as Federal ammo is probably the worst out there other than steel cased Russian stuff, IMO. (But I guess that’s why it only cost $12/box).  The 180g Federal felt weaker than the 165g Blazer, and much weaker than the 180g Blazer.  Moot point because the gun didn’t have an issue with it anyway. For those who’ve been reading any of my other guns’ tests, this is probably starting to sound like a broken record but it’s because I do basically the same tests will them all.  

So anyway, while standing in a range stall (I did use this gun in a carbine class but we didn’t do anything crazy and only shot maybe 100 rounds through pistols that day), these mini-tests are about as good as it’s going to get:

- Alternated ammo in magazines.
- Multiple times I hand loaded a round into the chamber from the top with the slide open, then inserted a fully loaded mag to make sure it would cycle. It did.
-I tried to limp wrist it to the point where I was only using two fingers to shoot the gun: my thumb wrapped around the back and my trigger finger.  
- I shot it at 0* and 180* (homeboy style, both sides).

Dirtyness:













The slide rails.



First time I’ve cleaned/lubed the gun since it was brand new. Racking the slide is much easier/smoother now… imagine that.



And gun number seven is through the test.

Spartan, you are the man!  Thanks for bumping this thread to the top with a great post.

I need to get back to shooting like I was.  I haven't been shooting in months for financial reasons (aka, dating is sucking me bone dry).  I need to finish my retry test of my SP2022.  I'm about halfway done with 2000, but since I have other pistols to rely on I plan to keep that one going until it quits on me and then replace the parts that are overdue.

I also need to test my X-Five.

you proved this yet, fanboy?

glad to see this thread is still alive

Thanks. Glad someone appreciates all the “work” (and money).  I’ve got another one range trip away from completing the challenge.  I need to get a few more boxes of ammo, first.  Stay tuned because this particular pistol is kind of an odd ball gun.  It’s not one of the big name brands we’re so used to seeing.

You have an X5?!  Sweet!  I don’t think I could bring myself to do the 2k through that.  I was thinking about doing it with my Springer Operator, but 45 is so expensive lately.... and I've already done one 45.

how did you get a German frame made sig 229?







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