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Posted: 3/7/2006 9:41:24 PM EDT
how do they compare there both high pressure loads faster and hard hiting.
hows the recoil compare?
i plan on using an asemi auto handgun on deer in very thick swamps on deer drives and a rifle or shot gun just cant come up quick enough to get a shot or would a round like .45 acp be better
and what bullet selection would be best to hunt with?
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 10:10:28 PM EDT
For you needs I'd reccomend a 10mm: Glock 20, EAA Witness, or 1911.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 10:22:52 PM EDT
10MM AUTO IS BETTER HUNTING ROUND
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 10:58:28 PM EDT
Yeah, I say a G20 too.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 12:23:39 AM EDT
Choosing between .40 or 357 sig

I'd probably go with the .40. I love the 357 sig for a duty weapon.

The .40, you get cheaper rounds, a bit more selection and can get heavier rounds. The recoil is about the same in my opinion. Some people say the 357 kicks more. I've never felt it.

That being said, I don't really recommend either for hunting. Like said above, get a 10mm.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 12:41:55 AM EDT
if he is going after deer with a handgun 10mm will work hopefully. but he really needs to look at a revolver--think .357mag but .45colt or .44mag would be better.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 7:32:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By aaronrb204:
if he is going after deer with a handgun 10mm will work hopefully. but he really needs to look at a revolver--think .357mag but .45colt or .44mag would be better.



Say what?

A full house 10mm has more energy than most .357 Mag or .45 Colt loadings.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 8:01:36 AM EDT
is the glock the only decent 10mm out there right now because i did think of that and i realy am no a glock fan so to speak and this isnt the type of hunting where im just gonna sit down and wait for a bulls eye shot i just need somthing i can pop em with a few times to slow them down so the other guys can finish them off because being the younger guy i often find my self in the thick ass swamps B/C the old farts cant hack it in there dont worry im not looking to wound theese deer
or any thing i would never take a shot i know i cant make and i know what type of weapon i need for my situation here but my 9mm i have right now is not designed for this even though i am very proficent with it what about a .45 acp?
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 9:36:30 AM EDT
I believe Smith still makes a couple 10mm handguns.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 10:20:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 53vortec:

Originally Posted By aaronrb204:
if he is going after deer with a handgun 10mm will work hopefully. but he really needs to look at a revolver--think .357mag but .45colt or .44mag would be better.



Say what?

A full house 10mm has more energy than most .357 Mag or .45 Colt loadings.



but the .45colt can be loaded to .44mag levels and even higher. and 10mm is about the same as .357mag depending on load but there are still more hunting loads for .357mag than there are for 10mm. there isn't much out there for 10mm other than fmj and a few jhp loads. but for hunting most people would prefer a jsp round.

and as far as looking for something other than glock in 10mm check the eaa witness line. they are a cz75 clone and by all accounts excellent pistols. and the grip on the 10mm version is noticably smaller than the glocks.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 8:02:39 AM EDT
+10 on a 10mm!
I carry a G29 in the woods.

Corbon 180gr BCSP at 1320fps
Double Tap 200gr XTP at 1250fps.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 8:48:55 AM EDT
As much as I like the .40 and .357sig, I wouldn't use either for hunting. The recoil is a little different, but not huge. The sig round is a little "snappier" than the .40, but that may just be me.

I would go with a .44mag if you really want to use it for hunting, or find a 460XVR/.480 Ruger/.500S&W.

Link Posted: 3/9/2006 8:51:23 AM EDT
G20 for me.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 3:26:41 PM EDT
I believe anything 9mm and above will work for what your intended use is. The last deer I killed was with a 9mm 147gr. subsonic Black Talon. It went through both lungs and failed to expand. Distance was 60 feet and the deer ran about 100yrd before dropping. Use whatever you are more accurate with.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 4:29:30 PM EDT
i'd go with the .357Sig loaded with 125gr. Gold Dots.


buy or borrow a .44mag
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 9:12:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rampant_Colt:
i'd go with the .357Sig loaded with 125gr. Gold Dots.


buy or borrow a .44mag



Part one strikes me as a particularly bad idea as I think it would underpenetrate, Part 2 as a very good idea. Most .357 Magnum hunting loads are 180 grn or more for a reason.

If I were forced to chose between 40 S&W and 357 Sig I would go with the heaviest 40 load I could find, preferably with a Hornady XTP loaded.

10mm is a much better choice. The Glock 20 is great if you have giant Mongo hands, otherwise the CZ75 was/is available in 10mm as are a number of 1911 clones.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 1:15:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NVGdude:

Originally Posted By Rampant_Colt:
i'd go with the .357Sig loaded with 125gr. Gold Dots.


buy or borrow a .44mag



Part one strikes me as a particularly bad idea as I think it would underpenetrate, Part 2 as a very good idea. Most .357 Magnum hunting loads are 180 grn or more for a reason.

If I were forced to chose between 40 S&W and 357 Sig I would go with the heaviest 40 load I could find, preferably with a Hornady XTP loaded.

10mm is a much better choice. The Glock 20 is great if you have giant Mongo hands, otherwise the CZ75 was/is available in 10mm as are a number of 1911 clones.



CZ has never made a 10mm, people have been begging them for years to chamber the 97 in the round. There are some CZ clones, however, that fire 10mm.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 6:39:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 53vortec:

CZ has never made a 10mm, people have been begging them for years to chamber the 97 in the round. There are some CZ clones, however, that fire 10mm.



My mistake, I could have sworn Jeff Cooper talked them into building one. I keep thinking happy thoughts about one of the Dan Wesson Pointman 1911 clones in 10mm. Um hey, since CZ-USA just bought out Dan Wesson, does that mean that CZ does make a 10mm?
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 7:12:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/20/2006 7:12:41 PM EDT by 53vortec]

Originally Posted By NVGdude:

Originally Posted By 53vortec:

CZ has never made a 10mm, people have been begging them for years to chamber the 97 in the round. There are some CZ clones, however, that fire 10mm.



My mistake, I could have sworn Jeff Cooper talked them into building one. I keep thinking happy thoughts about one of the Dan Wesson Pointman 1911 clones in 10mm. Um hey, since CZ-USA just bought out Dan Wesson, does that mean that CZ does make a 10mm?



By crackey I think it does!

Now if they can just make the leap into the 97!
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