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9/22/2017 12:11:25 AM
Posted: 7/15/2005 6:20:45 PM EDT
I used to check threads here all the time for 1911 stuff. Lately it seems like 80% of the threads are XD related. Just an observation. God knows there are enough places on this site to post about 1911s, and it's nice to see that the XD is getting the poularity it deserves.
Link Posted: 7/15/2005 6:56:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hobbs5624:
and it's nice to see that the XD is getting the poularity it deserves.




I don't know about deserves.


I've got three SA 1911s & no XDs nor do I have plans for one nor do I lust for one.

Why buy a XD when a damn fine 1911 can be had? Makes no sense to me.
Link Posted: 7/15/2005 8:48:53 PM EDT
They can't hold a candle to S.A.'s 1911s.
Link Posted: 7/15/2005 9:03:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hobbs5624:
I used to check threads here all the time for 1911 stuff. Lately it seems like 80% of the threads are XD related. Just an observation. God knows there are enough places on this site to post about 1911s, and it's nice to see that the XD is getting the poularity it deserves.



+1

As far as the other thread-squater's, speaking from purely an elitest's POV, the XD is more known as Springfield than the 1911 is. (1911 = Colt). XD is pure Springfield. Not that I don't love 1911's, I'm jsut pointing that out...
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 10:12:52 AM EDT
That's too bad considering springfield is the only high output manufacture of 1911's that continues to make a 1911 true to brownings design.

I don't have a springfield 1911 but when I hear the name it's all I can think about.

Well that and the M1A.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 10:22:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:

(1911 = Colt)





Maybe in your world, sir, but certainly not in mine!
Link Posted: 7/17/2005 10:48:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:XD is pure Springfield. Not that I don't love 1911's, I'm jsut pointing that out...


Brazilian 1911s, Croatian XDs... Pure Springfield.
Link Posted: 7/17/2005 9:53:31 PM EDT
I like both my XD9 and my 9109L 1911. I am more accurate with the XD so of course I enjoy shooting that one more. The XD has also been more reliable than my 1911.
Link Posted: 7/18/2005 4:07:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Agrippa:

Brazilian 1911s.....Pure Springfield.




Only the frames are made in Brazil. The rest of the gun is made, fitted & assembled in Genesco, IL, to the best of my knowledge.

Does your logic then dictate that when GM or Ford use a Japanese comuter in their vehicles, they're no longer American made?
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 7:18:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole:
Does your logic then dictate that when GM or Ford use a Japanese comutercomputer in their vehicles, they're no longer American made?


Link Posted: 7/22/2005 11:48:14 AM EDT
I have two Xd's and they are both 100% Reliable and Very accurate add a Canyon Creek trigger job and it's awsome
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 12:33:34 PM EDT

Welcome RT! I've seen you over on the HS2000 boards
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 12:46:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:
Welcome RT! I've seen you over on the HS2000 boards


Thanks I live over their but trying to broaden my horizon a little been wondering around in brianenso web forum but seem like your all alone their.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 9:45:39 PM EDT
These old fuddy duddys just cant take that their heavy worn out 1911's are being phased out
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 5:41:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JohnnyMcEldoo:
These old fuddy duddys just cant take that their heavy worn out 1911's are being phased out




Heavy? I'd put my SA Micro alloy frame against an XD against either accuracy or weight.

As for being "phased out", the 1911 has been around almost 100 years. Wanna bet on the XD?
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 5:50:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole:

Originally Posted By JohnnyMcEldoo:
These old fuddy duddys just cant take that their heavy worn out 1911's are being phased out




Heavy? I'd put my SA Micro alloy frame against an XD against either accuracy or weight.

As for being "phased out", the 1911 has been around almost 100 years. Wanna bet on the XD?





"well you better start swimmin or you'll sink like a stone for the times they are a changin"

Link Posted: 7/24/2005 10:34:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole:

Originally Posted By JohnnyMcEldoo:
These old fuddy duddys just cant take that their heavy worn out 1911's are being phased out




Heavy? I'd put my SA Micro alloy frame against an XD against either accuracy or weight.

As for being "phased out", the 1911 has been around almost 100 years. Wanna bet on the XD?



Is your gun stock? Ill put my XD against your gun, but if yours isnt stock mine wont be either.
Link Posted: 7/24/2005 3:10:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Waldo0506:

Is your gun stock? Ill put my XD against your gun, but if yours isnt stock mine wont be either.





Right off the dealer shelf, sir.
Link Posted: 7/24/2005 8:55:06 PM EDT
Then mine will be stock too.

25 yards?
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 5:12:02 AM EDT
To bad TN. so far I would love to see this grudge match.Please post some results whith some pics.
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 6:07:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Agrippa:

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:XD is pure Springfield. Not that I don't love 1911's, I'm jsut pointing that out...


Brazilian 1911s, Croatian XDs... Pure Springfield.



Link Posted: 7/25/2005 1:59:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/25/2005 5:08:56 PM EDT by BobCole]

Originally Posted By Waldo0506:
Then mine will be stock too.

25 yards?





Heck, 25 inches, I don't care.

Is your barrel 3" or do you have the full size?

Does it weigh less than 24oz?
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 2:10:06 PM EDT
My barrel is 4 inches and it weighs 25oz empty. You got 1oz on me, although I have yet to carry my gun around empty.

I shoot the sub-compact just the same its 20.5oz.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 4:15:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Waldo0506:
My barrel is 4 inches and it weighs 25oz empty. You got 1oz on me, although I have yet to carry my gun around empty.
One inch can make a big difference in CCL, IMO. 1oz, not so much there, I'll grant you that.


I shoot the sub-compact just the same its 20.5oz.
I looked for the specs in SA's catalog, but mine only had a brief description on the XD.


Link Posted: 7/27/2005 9:36:17 PM EDT
I have both, an XD9 and 1911. If I had to choose one, hands down it would be the 1911. That being said, I love my XD9. Completely reliable, zero malfuctions in 1000ish rounds. In fact I'm looking to pick up another. I have the three inch and want a four inch next.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 12:08:15 AM EDT
I have two SA 1911s and one XD 4" 9mm. My XD has been more reliabel out of the box and my 1911s are way more accurate. For home defense and range I will take my 1911 but for carry I will take my XD hands down. My 1911s are both 5" because I hate micro 1911s but to each his own. I like having 15rds capacity and a flush fit. At this point I will not trust my life with my loaded service because I am having problems with it. My GI has been fairly trouble free. Just my opinion.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 5:48:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GenghisKhan:
I have two SA 1911s and one XD 4" 9mm. My XD has been more reliabel out of the box and my 1911s are way more accurate. For home defense and range I will take my 1911 but for carry I will take my XD hands down. My 1911s are both 5" because I hate micro 1911s but to each his own. I like having 15rds capacity and a flush fit. At this point I will not trust my life with my loaded service because I am having problems with it. My GI has been fairly trouble free. Just my opinion.


What kind of problem?
I may be of assitance.I have two xd-40 the sub 3" and service 4" and been trouble free@ 1000+ rounds each
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 6:01:09 AM EDT
I've got an XD40 4" and a loaded 1911, 9109L. The XD has proven itself uber-reliable. I know it will function properly every time I pull the trigger. The 1911 isn't broken in yet, but I still haven't been able to jam it even when I've tried. Both are super accurate as far as I can tell. At 7-10 yds. both will leave 1 ragged hole. I do believe the ergonomics of the XD are better than the 1911. With that said, I'll still take my Sig 220 over either one any day of the week. MJD
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 9:34:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/28/2005 9:44:08 AM EDT by ManiacRat461]
Owning both an XD and a 1911, I like them both. To me its comparing apples to oranges. Two different designs, designed damn near 100 years apart. There are good points and bad points to each one, 1911 will always be here, I do not think it will ever go away, considering every gun owner regardless of whether he has a 1911 has an appreciation for the pistol.

XD is still in it's infant stages as a major player, I think it will stick around as it gives people the option of something other than a Glock that does not cost an arm and a leg. I do prefer the single action over the action of the XDs, however I like the rail, double stack, light weight etc of the XD(to me the trigger is not near as bad on an XD compared to a Glock trigger).

But you just cannot beat the classic design of the 1911. The XD for me is just as comfortable as my 1911 and feels very much the same as far as grip angles, controls etc. And call me a wuss if you may, but I do like the idea of at least having the grip safety on the XD versus absolutely nothing external on a Glock. I don't have to have a lever safety but that grip safety gives me some peace of mind, even if it is only psychological.

XD vs 1911? They both have a place in this world in my opinion, the 1911 has survived every fad to come around in the pistol world and came out with flying colors. The XD has a market, and probably drew several people away from Glock for a variety of reasons. As much as a I like my XD, I'll never not own 1911s, 1911 and .45 a.c.p. are as American as apple pie and baseball.

ETA: My SA G.I. 1911 and XD-40 Tactical are equally dependable, the only malfunctions I have with the 1911 were magazine related. And only 1 FTF in the XD and that was with the 12 rnd mag which still is extremely tight with 12 rnds in it, very hard to strip #1 and #2 from the magazine with 12 in it. Well over a 1000 rnds thru the 1911 and working on 500 in the XD and both are solid performers.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 10:02:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RT_Performance:

Originally Posted By GenghisKhan:
I have two SA 1911s and one XD 4" 9mm. My XD has been more reliabel out of the box and my 1911s are way more accurate. For home defense and range I will take my 1911 but for carry I will take my XD hands down. My 1911s are both 5" because I hate micro 1911s but to each his own. I like having 15rds capacity and a flush fit. At this point I will not trust my life with my loaded service because I am having problems with it. My GI has been fairly trouble free. Just my opinion.


What kind of problem?
I may be of assitance.I have two xd-40 the sub 3" and service 4" and been trouble free@ 1000+ rounds each




My 1911 not my XD if that is what you are asking. The problem I have with my 1911 is

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=49&t=19340&page=1
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 12:27:47 PM EDT
I don't know anything about 1911's except I want one.
If you think the stock XD trigger is good .you should feel one from Rich@Canyon creek best 165 bucks I have ever spent .and my buddy who use to be on the army pistol trainer and part of the shooting team told me it was one of the best he had ever felt.
Here is a linkCanyon creek
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 4:29:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RT_Performance:
I don't know anything about 1911's except I want one.





That would seem to be how the rest of us got started.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:48:55 AM EDT
Yes, no one can have just one.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:19:19 AM EDT
I have an XD40 for the wife and 3 1911s for myself

My SA GI model is the latest, she's up over 1K now with zero failures of any sort and hits to POI with 230gr ball every time. I can roll a 2 liter pop bottle at a ranged 80 yds without much difficulty.

The XD40 is a nice pistol and has been reliable in the 1500 or so rounds through it, almost all of them bulk reloads. The only failures have been from rounds that wont even fit the chamber but at $89/1000 I wont bitch too much.

Which would I grab? The GI... every single time. I'm a 1911 guy I shoot them better and faster. I only wish my much more expensive Colt commander was as accurate as the MUCH cheaper SA GI model. The slide to frame fit is outstanding, no perceptible play in the barrel lockup either. I run wilson #47D mags exclusively.

I prefer shooting either the XD or any of my 1911s over my P220 which cost another 50% more than either.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 12:40:51 PM EDT
I have both an HS2000 (Springfield Xd before Springfield inported them)and a Springfield 1911. I personally like the HS2000 over the 1911, it's an opinion. I think part of the difference in my case is that the HS is 9mm and the 1911 is a 45. I think I prefer the reduced recoil and ability to place quicker follow up shots. Also the weight difference (in my models) make the HS a lot nicer to carry.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 5:44:11 PM EDT
I have an XD-40 and a Kimber Warrior 1911. Both are very good. I prefer the 1911. The weight and size feel just right to me. I like the thumb safety, too. I beleive in cocked and locked and like the safety. I prefer the .45 cal.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 7:56:22 PM EDT
I have owned both the XD and the 1911. I have found that the higher grade 1911's will ouotperform the XD's. but they also cost a great deal more.

Both are very reliable. The lower grade 1911's tend to be more reliable in "field" conditions because their tolerances are not as tight. Of course the sacrifice with looser tolerances is accuracy. The XD tends to be more of a jack of all trades. It is reliable, accurate, and affordable.

I currently own an XD and will be getting another Custom Loaded 1911 in the very near future.

Just my opinions of course.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 1:38:37 PM EDT
I have both and I would not compare them,you can't.Its apples to oranges,they both have thier good points and bad points.The main thing that drew me to the XD was the cost.The next factor for me is being a south paw it is good to go right out of the box with no concern for ambi safety,comes with a ambi mag release and the gun just point shoots dead on much like a 1911.
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