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Posted: 8/17/2015 3:51:03 PM EDT
[#1]
A CZ 75 or a clone, cocked & locked, sure.
ETA: OP changed the tile on me. No. Don't like DA/SA decockers. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 3:58:07 PM EDT
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Lot of people carry Sig P22X pistols.
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Posted: 8/17/2015 4:11:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Compact.
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Posted: 8/17/2015 4:15:13 PM EDT
[#4]
As soon as I get a proper holster, I plan on carrying my CZ75 PCR
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Posted: 8/17/2015 4:45:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Of course
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Posted: 8/17/2015 4:49:12 PM EDT
[#6]
No thanks.
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Posted: 8/17/2015 4:54:20 PM EDT
[#7]
I'm shooting a friend's PX4 Friday, we shall see.
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Posted: 8/17/2015 4:59:35 PM EDT
[#8]
I would like a Px4 Full Size slide on a Compact frame, or maybe the Full Size frame can be cut down to accept the Compact hammer frame.
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Posted: 8/17/2015 5:28:53 PM EDT
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I would like a Px4 Full Size slide on a Compact frame, or maybe the Full Size frame can be cut down to accept the Compact hammer frame. Like a G17 cut down for G19 mags? |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 6:01:59 PM EDT
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^^^^This. I don't understand why manufacturers don't do this. Springfield did just the opposite, not sure why-full size grip and short slide
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Posted: 8/17/2015 8:12:04 PM EDT
[#11]
I have a PX4 Storm Compact. It's a really nice little pistol. If I lived in a free state that allowed carry, I'd carry it. But I live in a shithole ban state, so I can't. It's quite a bit wider than my Glock and P2000, but it's a very good size.
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Posted: 8/17/2015 8:23:54 PM EDT
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I have a PX4 Storm Compact. It's a really nice little pistol. If I lived in a free state that allowed carry, I'd carry it. But I live in a shithole ban state, so I can't. It's quite a bit wider than my Glock and P2000, but it's a very good size. There's more permits issued in Cali than many realize. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 8:39:26 PM EDT
[#13]
I would run one. It's the Indian, not the arrow.
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Posted: 8/17/2015 9:14:48 PM EDT
[#14]
I carry one. I shaved down the gigantic safety levers and made it decocker only. Now if I could just get the low profile slide stop. Beretta is nuts what they charge. I carry it IWB in a Remora.
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Posted: 8/17/2015 9:22:12 PM EDT
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There's more permits issued in Cali than many realize. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a PX4 Storm Compact. It's a really nice little pistol. If I lived in a free state that allowed carry, I'd carry it. But I live in a shithole ban state, so I can't. It's quite a bit wider than my Glock and P2000, but it's a very good size. There's more permits issued in Cali than many realize. In places where no one lives, yes. San Diego, where I live? No. Los Angeles? No. San Francisco? No. The only major county in this state I know of that issues ccws is Sacramento. If you live in the boonies, you can carry your PX4 Storm Compact. If you can find one used because they've never been legal to sell here. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 9:23:15 PM EDT
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In places where no one lives, yes. San Diego, where I live? No. Los Angeles? No. San Francisco? No. The only major county in this state I know of that issues ccws is Sacramento. If you live in the boonies, you can carry your PX4 Storm Compact. If you can find one used because they've never been legal to sell here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a PX4 Storm Compact. It's a really nice little pistol. If I lived in a free state that allowed carry, I'd carry it. But I live in a shithole ban state, so I can't. It's quite a bit wider than my Glock and P2000, but it's a very good size. There's more permits issued in Cali than many realize. In places where no one lives, yes. San Diego, where I live? No. Los Angeles? No. San Francisco? No. The only major county in this state I know of that issues ccws is Sacramento. If you live in the boonies, you can carry your PX4 Storm Compact. If you can find one used because they've never been legal to sell here. That sucks. I miss San Diego. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 9:24:32 PM EDT
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I carry one. I shaved down the gigantic safety levers and made it decocker only. Now if I could just get the low profile slide stop. Beretta is nuts what they charge. I carry it IWB in a Remora. I'm working on getting sources for the slide stop and other factory low profile stuff. Feel free to remind me in a day or two. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 9:30:03 PM EDT
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Like a G17 cut down for G19 mags? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would like a Px4 Full Size slide on a Compact frame, or maybe the Full Size frame can be cut down to accept the Compact hammer frame. Like a G17 cut down for G19 mags? Exactly I've like the G19L(?) since I saw one over 20 years ago visiting an old 82d buddy living in Hamilton, NJ. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 9:30:33 PM EDT
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Who's Ernest?
And no I wouldn't. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 10:21:10 PM EDT
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Who's Ernest? And no I wouldn't. Come on man, read the article. http://goo.gl/R7qUcm |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 8:10:01 AM EDT
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It wouldn't be the end of the world if I was issued one, but I wouldn't pick it if I had my say. It's just a little heaver/taller/thicker than my G19 and I'm not too keen on DA/SA. Plus I don't do slide-mounted controls, ever.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 8:20:37 AM EDT
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It wouldn't be the end of the world if I was issued one, but I wouldn't pick it if I had my say. It's just a little heaver/taller/thicker than my G19 and I'm not too keen on DA/SA. Plus I don't do slide-mounted controls, ever. I believe that most carrying this are not using the slide mounted safety but rather relying upon the DA trigger pull and reholstering with a thumb on the hammer. I will find out more when i shoot with Langdon later this week. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 9:15:37 AM EDT
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Yes. The Px4 Storm compact recoils very flat. Flatter than the popular Glock's and M&P's. The Storm is a missed gem in the compact pistol community. There are not striker fired guns so the trigger doesn't feel like it. Beretta does have smooth double action triggers so, the weight doesn't result in terrible hits on target. I shoot this pistol clearly better than a Glock or M&P. This pistol just works for me. Be open minded to whats out there, you might be surprised that the groupthink mentality on gun forums is dramatically glib. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 9:29:39 AM EDT
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I'm working on getting sources for the slide stop and other factory low profile stuff. Feel free to remind me in a day or two. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I carry one. I shaved down the gigantic safety levers and made it decocker only. Now if I could just get the low profile slide stop. Beretta is nuts what they charge. I carry it IWB in a Remora. I'm working on getting sources for the slide stop and other factory low profile stuff. Feel free to remind me in a day or two. that would be incredible. There is no need for that to be ambi either IMHO. I only need left side. I know Brownells has the plug for around $8 or so |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 10:23:34 AM EDT
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I had a full size PX4 9mm "G" model. It was a great gun, excellent ergos, accurate, reliable and a really good DA/SA trigger. Better than my 92G has even with some Wolff spring. I do think the PX4 is pretty ugly even in the realm of ugly polymer framed handguns but function means more to me than asthetics. Unfortunately I happened on a CZ P-07 a short time after getting the PX4 and I personally preferred it's trigger, ergos and styling. So after some time in the safe the PX4 became trade fodder. Had it been the compact (mid-sized) model I might have held onto it longer or kept it all together. Still wondering if the Beretta APX is happening or not.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 10:29:02 AM EDT
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I believe that most carrying this are not using the slide mounted safety but rather relying upon the DA trigger pull and reholstering with a thumb on the hammer. I will find out more when i shoot with Langdon later this week. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It wouldn't be the end of the world if I was issued one, but I wouldn't pick it if I had my say. It's just a little heaver/taller/thicker than my G19 and I'm not too keen on DA/SA. Plus I don't do slide-mounted controls, ever. I believe that most carrying this are not using the slide mounted safety but rather relying upon the DA trigger pull and reholstering with a thumb on the hammer. I will find out more when i shoot with Langdon later this week. That's to be expected, but my issue is that I hate having levers and buttons exactly where my hand goes to rack the slide. I find it annoying and don't want to run the risk of changing the condition of the weapon when I manipulate the slide. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 12:16:00 PM EDT
[#27]
How does the CZ P-07 stack up compared to the PX4, Glock 19 ect?
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Posted: 8/18/2015 12:49:36 PM EDT
[#28]
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That's to be expected, but my issue is that I hate having levers and buttons exactly where my hand goes to rack the slide. I find it annoying and don't want to run the risk of changing the condition of the weapon when I manipulate the slide. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It wouldn't be the end of the world if I was issued one, but I wouldn't pick it if I had my say. It's just a little heaver/taller/thicker than my G19 and I'm not too keen on DA/SA. Plus I don't do slide-mounted controls, ever. I believe that most carrying this are not using the slide mounted safety but rather relying upon the DA trigger pull and reholstering with a thumb on the hammer. I will find out more when i shoot with Langdon later this week. That's to be expected, but my issue is that I hate having levers and buttons exactly where my hand goes to rack the slide. I find it annoying and don't want to run the risk of changing the condition of the weapon when I manipulate the slide. Makes sense. I look forward to trying the PX4 out. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 12:51:43 PM EDT
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The P-07 is, in my book, is the Glock 19 of the DA/SA world. You really have to put one in your hand and shoot to it to appreciate how good of gun it really is.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 12:56:52 PM EDT
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The P-07 is, in my book, is the Glock 19 of the DA/SA world. You really have to put one in your hand and shoot to it to appreciate how good of gun it really is. I hope to try one out sooner or later. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 1:35:32 PM EDT
[#31]
PX4?
Only if the safety became a decocker only. I'm a Sig-first guy. Respect and appreciate other manufacturers (enjoy Glocks and my Shield, too!), but the safety is awkward and obtrusive. In my opinion and with my personal preferences, of course. Others may disagree, and that's ok. ETA - the position of the safety/decokcer is also a bit awkward, in my opinion, being mounted up on the slide. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 2:38:34 PM EDT
[#32]
I put over 30,000 through my full size PX4 9mm before I sold it to a friend of mine that needed a pistol. It never had any type of failure, ever.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:35:16 PM EDT
[#33]
I have the subcompact version. I like it ok. It's a little chunky for a subcompact but it shoots well. I'm still looking for the perfect sc 9mm double stack which is kinda like looking for a unicorn.
You can convert them to decock only and remove the safety feature. I don't carry with the safety on. Rack, decock, safety off with a thumb on the hammer during a reholster. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 4:31:42 PM EDT
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PX4? Only if the safety became a decocker only. This. The shape of the PX4 levers is awkward to easily sweep off. When I carried the 92 platform pistols, I was able to sweep my thumb forward and down which would move the safety forward. It doesn't work the same way with the PX4. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 4:37:35 PM EDT
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This. The shape of the PX4 levers is awkward to easily sweep off. When I carried the 92 platform pistols, I was able to sweep my thumb forward and down which would move the safety forward. It doesn't work the same way with the PX4. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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PX4? Only if the safety became a decocker only. This. The shape of the PX4 levers is awkward to easily sweep off. When I carried the 92 platform pistols, I was able to sweep my thumb forward and down which would move the safety forward. It doesn't work the same way with the PX4. I agree. The safety/de-cocker isn't easily moved while doing over the top slide functions. It is quite stiff. One reason I like the Storm compact is the ambi-slide stop that as a lefty I can actually use. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 5:05:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Should have answers soon to your questions, gents.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 8:59:35 AM EDT
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Youtube-Making PX4 into decocker only-1 step further
watch this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ please /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 9:30:15 AM EDT
[#38]
Langdon is working on a factory model of his PX4s as described in the article. Here's my training journal entry from another forum on my experiences yesterday:
So, I shot one of Langdon's PX4 Compacts today. It carries better than the G19 but is very close to it in dimensions. Same capacity. I shot 270 rounds without fail. Gun was very dirty but well lubed with Lucas Gun Oil. I had expected the initial DA trigger pull to kick my ass. It most certain did not. Just keep pulling, don't wait. Smooth steady pull. Use that long pull to stage the trigger during your press out. Decocking and then of course, resting my thumb on the hammer during reholstering AIWB was second nature quickly. Accuracy was great once I got used to the POI of the Trijicon HD sights. No malfunctions. Reloads were smooth, the slide lock lever is much easier to use than a Glock's (Vickers or factory extended). I have no conclusive evidence but the gun seems to not heat up during prolonged use as badly as a Glock does. I would like one of these. I don't need one, though. I do think it would make me a better shooter with regards to managing the DA/SA pulls and getting off Glock after eight years of carrying and training with only 9mm Glocks. They need some work out of the box as detailed in the article but damn.....it's fucking nice. I worked on slow fire some but mainly draw from concealment, DA shot to circles on a Pistol-Training target. My 115r LAX reloads shot very low with the Trijicon HDs. Langdon advised that 147s shoot POA/POI at the 7 yard range I was shooting at. I also worked on DA shot from concealment to one circle and SA shot to the next. The DA/SA boogeyman is a myth. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 9:43:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The DA/SA boogeyman is a myth. Uh, no. Lousy DA trigger pulls are still lousy DA trigger pulls. You might have a decent one - there are still many DA/SA guns w/ lousy DA pulls. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 9:44:54 AM EDT
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Uh, no. Lousy DA trigger pulls are still lousy DA trigger pulls. You might have a decent one - there are still many DA/SA guns w/ lousy DA pulls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The DA/SA boogeyman is a myth. Uh, no. Lousy DA trigger pulls are still lousy DA trigger pulls. You might have a decent one - there are still many DA/SA guns w/ lousy DA pulls. Ok. |
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Posted: 8/22/2015 10:59:18 AM EDT
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Carried one EDC for some time. Converted it to G-style decock-only, added Talon grip tape (factory grip is way too slick) and was eventually going to go w/the stealth levers.
Why am I not carrying it any longer? You lose (IMHO) a significant amount of bbl length compared to other pistols of that size and you're restricted to micro lights since the rail is so short. Functionally, it was 100% and shot very well. Am much happier w/my SIG P320 Compacts now. Tomac |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 8:43:27 PM EDT
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I'm working on getting sources for the slide stop and other factory low profile stuff. Feel free to remind me in a day or two. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I carry one. I shaved down the gigantic safety levers and made it decocker only. Now if I could just get the low profile slide stop. Beretta is nuts what they charge. I carry it IWB in a Remora. I'm working on getting sources for the slide stop and other factory low profile stuff. Feel free to remind me in a day or two. Reminded. IM me |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 4:36:20 PM EDT
[#43]
Shoot my friends full size and like it. He doesn't clean it and it runs and run.
If the compact is as good sure and I'm not impressed by many handguns. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 10:01:42 PM EDT
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It seems like beretta has really been making a push lately to market the px4 again. Websites and forums and stuff. I've always liked them and would like to shoot one side by side with a grand power and p07.
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Posted: 8/30/2015 11:43:06 PM EDT
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I had a Px4 Subcompact and did have it in my carry rotation. I was a more novice shooter at the time and the DA gave me fits. I ended up selling it to fund another gun purchase. These days I shoot SIGs just fine, so I think if I went back to one, I'd do fine.
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Posted: 8/31/2015 7:49:27 PM EDT
[#46]
When the PX4 first came out I was really wanting one. Then I discovered it didn't use Beretta 92 mags and it sucked for me since I have a nice stash of them.
I'm a 92/96 fan along with S&W 3rd Gens but I do respect the PX4. it is a well thought out update of the Beretta 8xxx Cougar Series, which itself is an awesome design. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 7:52:51 PM EDT
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I think after the 9000 debacle, most folks aren't willing to give Beretta another chance with polymer.
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Posted: 8/31/2015 8:27:07 PM EDT
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When the PX4 first came out I was really wanting one. Then I discovered it didn't use Beretta 92 mags and it sucked for me since I have a nice stash of them. I'm a 92/96 fan along with S&W 3rd Gens but I do respect the PX4. it is a well thought out update of the Beretta 8xxx Cougar Series, which itself is an awesome design. This right here. I like Beretta quite a bit, and their 92 series is my go-to service pistol. If the PX4 used 92 mags, it would be a no-brainer to buy a some PX4s to have around. They're cheaper, lighter, and I've heard the recoil impulse on them is awesome. But, I'm not particularly eager to stock another mag. I'm diversified enough at Beretta 92 mags, CZ 75 mags, and Glock 17 mags, and the CZ P-07 can use the CZ 75 mags, so that's that. If they'd make a conversion or something to enable the PX4 to use 92 mags, that would be awesome. I'd even consider buying a PX4 if it was REALLY cheap or if it came with a pile of mags at a very reasonable price. But as is, not so much. |
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Posted: 9/2/2015 6:57:10 AM EDT
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it's a great gun. I would definitely trust it as a carry gun. I wouldn't carry it though as it just feels too fat to me.
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Posted: 9/2/2015 10:10:06 AM EDT
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I haven't shot the compact, but I do like the full size. It is a neat gun. I'd like one just as an example of the rotating barrel lockup.
Being able to use the same mags in a PCC and the way it breaks down are neat as well. Well thought out gun. |
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