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Posted: 8/19/2006 8:57:34 PM EDT
Because once someone shoots one, they don't need to ask everyone else's opinion of it - the KNOW it's a great firearm.

Because they shoot so accurately, people rarely need to ask what to do to make it better.

Because they're so reliable, people seldom need to bitch about what's wrong or how to fix it.

I guess you can figure out what I carry and rely on
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 9:00:03 PM EDT
[#1]
A guy next to me today at the range was shooting one.

I've always liked them.  May have to pick one up someday.
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 9:04:09 PM EDT
[#2]
I've always found it odd that locals shops ALWAYS have HPs in stock, and always seem to be moving them, but I have never met a single person face-to-face who atually owned one.

Great pistols, fit my hand like a glove. I should find an excuse to buy one one of these days...
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 9:08:07 PM EDT
[#3]
I REALLY need a Hi Power. They fit my hand like a glove as well and seem extremely well made. There's just so many other things I want right now that they're not at the top of the list. Yet.
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 9:11:00 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I've always found it odd that locals shops ALWAYS have HPs in stock, and always seem to be moving them, but I have never met a single person face-to-face who atually owned one.

Great pistols, fit my hand like a glove. I should find an excuse to buy one one of these days...



I have the exact opposite problem around here.... nobody stocks them except one store, and then only sometimes.  But you're right about one thing in my area... they don't stay on the shelves.  
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 9:16:50 PM EDT
[#5]
got one on layaway right now...
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 9:18:25 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've always found it odd that locals shops ALWAYS have HPs in stock, and always seem to be moving them, but I have never met a single person face-to-face who atually owned one.

Great pistols, fit my hand like a glove. I should find an excuse to buy one one of these days...



I have the exact opposite problem around here.... nobody stocks them except one store, and then only sometimes.  But you're right about one thing in my area... they don't stay on the shelves.  
For some reason Highpowers sort of fall into the same category as revolvers for me.  I have respect for them, but no real interest.  They seem to appeal more to aficionados and folks who are more apt to quietly collect rather than hang out on gun boards.  You never hear about Korth, Sphinx, etc, but you know someone is buying them.
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 9:26:47 PM EDT
[#7]
sure they're a fine gun, my brother inherited one from my grandpa, I got the Colt series 70.  They have very nice bluing, but the handgun market is flooded.  Browning seems to do no marketing for them.  I'm not a real fan of their magazine disconector.  Its just hard for a gun to stand out with all of the other companies' aggressive marketing.  They only have two caliber options, and the price range keeps it in a bracket where other companies have alot more to offer
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 9:30:24 PM EDT
[#8]
my dad had the hp in 40cal and 9mm, damn nice pistol and it's a better design than my 1911.
Link Posted: 8/19/2006 11:58:32 PM EDT
[#9]


BHP: one of only two guns I will carry.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 2:25:27 AM EDT
[#10]
I have always enjoyed shooting a HP.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 3:59:12 AM EDT
[#11]
i don't talk about them because i don't like them.  i should note that i have never fired one however.  they don't fit my hand at all.  the grip is too fat for me.  it just seems far too fat compared to what any other doublestack 9mm feels like.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 4:12:16 AM EDT
[#12]
Morning

For me I think that the HP isn't discussed much because...
1. It is an old design and thus not interesting to those who consider themselves on the cutting edge.
2. It  is in 9mm, at least the classic HP, and not much interest to the .45 ACP crowd.
3. No one makes a HP at an affordable price with all the bells and whistles.

With that said, I think it is a good classic design and I own one in the classic configuration.  I much prefer my 1911 or my G21 as a self defense gun though.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 5:04:04 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 5:18:11 AM EDT
[#14]
I don't own a High Power and have never shot one but I seem to recall reading that they had problems feeding hollowpoint ammo and were only reliable with ball ammo.  Can anyone confirm or deny that rumor?  I have been tempted to pick one up over the years but that nagging detail (and lack of funds at the time of finding one) has prevented me from trying the "other classic pistol designed by JMB".  
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 5:40:42 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2006 5:45:04 AM EDT
[#16]
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 5:53:04 AM EDT
[#17]
I had a nice FN Hi-Power for a while. I spent a good chunk of change having it refinished in a two tone Np3/Rogaurd finish so it wouldn't rust when carried IWB, and replacing the trigger, hammer, sear, and safety with Cylinder & Slide parts to improve ergonomics, and having it tuned up by a gunsmith to make it more reliable. I dropped another $400 on Novak night sights and  Milt Sparks holster, belt, and mag pouch. In the end, I had a nice looking $1800 pistol/carry rig that I didn't like as well as my $300 used GLOCK 19 and $100 Blade-Tech and Wilderness carry rig. It was also larger, held less ammo, was not as reliable, and weighed a pound more than the GLOCK.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 5:57:11 AM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 8:12:05 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I don't own a High Power and have never shot one but I seem to recall reading that they had problems feeding hollowpoint ammo and were only reliable with ball ammo.  Can anyone confirm or deny that rumor?  I have been tempted to pick one up over the years but that nagging detail (and lack of funds at the time of finding one) has prevented me from trying the "other classic pistol designed by JMB".  


The MKIII Hi Power was specifically designed to accomodate Hollow Point ammunition.  It has a nice, generous feed ramp and will run about anything you can put through it.  I prefer Winchester SXTs due to the longer ogive but shorter round like the Hyrdashock work well, too.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 8:26:29 AM EDT
[#20]
A JMB design with an external extractor?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

It couldn't possibly work.

Link Posted: 8/20/2006 9:04:44 AM EDT
[#21]
I've got a Browning hi-power fotay and love it.

Pimped it out with adjustable sights.

It has eaten everything I have put in it so far and my favorite loads are the 180 gr JHP and the 140gr lead RN.

Just wish I could get higher-cap mags for it.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 9:07:30 AM EDT
[#22]
They are very nice guns and most people know it. It is hard to argue against them so a lot of folk won't reply in HP threads. And as stated above they are an old design and don't have the panache of being the latest gee-whiz-flash-bang design. They simply soldier on quietly giving yeoman service with the respect due to them.
Yes, i do have one, a MKII, I love it.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 10:13:37 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I had a nice FN Hi-Power for a while. I spent a good chunk of change having it refinished in a two tone Np3/Rogaurd finish so it wouldn't rust when carried IWB, and replacing the trigger, hammer, sear, and safety with Cylinder & Slide parts to improve ergonomics, and having it tuned up by a gunsmith to make it more reliable. I dropped another $400 on Novak night sights and  Milt Sparks holster, belt, and mag pouch. In the end, I had a nice looking $1800 pistol/carry rig that I didn't like as well as my $300 used GLOCK 19 and $100 Blade-Tech and Wilderness carry rig. It was also larger, held less ammo, was not as reliable, and weighed a pound more than the GLOCK.



That is exactly the reason.


Link Posted: 8/20/2006 10:19:14 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I had a nice FN Hi-Power for a while. I spent a good chunk of change having it refinished in a two tone Np3/Rogaurd finish so it wouldn't rust when carried IWB, and replacing the trigger, hammer, sear, and safety with Cylinder & Slide parts to improve ergonomics, and having it tuned up by a gunsmith to make it more reliable. I dropped another $400 on Novak night sights and  Milt Sparks holster, belt, and mag pouch. In the end, I had a nice looking $1800 pistol/carry rig that I didn't like as well as my $300 used GLOCK 19 and $100 Blade-Tech and Wilderness carry rig. It was also larger, held less ammo, was not as reliable, and weighed a pound more than the GLOCK.


some of us appreciate quality construction over stamped out mass produced injection molding. +  most highpower shooters still have all their fingers



I haven't met a Glock shooter yet that is missing any fingers.

Well, there is that one guy, but thats not gun related.

The fact is the injection molding and stamped parts make a gun that is lighter, cheaper, more reliable and higher capacity that shoots easily and accuratly. I like the Hi-Power too, but for what they cost versus what you get, I could never justify one. So unless you are just interested in specific firearm (HP in this case) the average buyer is going to look right past one.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 2:28:07 PM EDT
[#25]
I always wanted one when I was younger and mine is a real nice example of a mid-70s HiPower. I don't shoot it often but it does a very nice job.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 6:34:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Doesn't SAS use the hipower still?  I could've swore I seen picture in SOF with british guy with a Hipower sticking out of his thigh rig.  

The thing that makes me a little nervous about them is how it only has the one safety in comparison to the 2 on a  1911.  
  But at least it has one!!!!!!!!! (that was for the glock guy)  And don't give me that safe action crap.  I know glocks are good guns, but dang it if I wouldn't be nervous holstering one.  I've never done it and I may never do it.  However, they do shoot well and have the respect of many.
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 6:44:09 PM EDT
[#27]
I love my MK 1 Indian clone. It works everytime and it fits my hand perfectly. The price was right and it shoots everything I've put in it and shoots it VERY accurately. JMB sure knew how to design a handgun..(I'm also a 1911 fan). I lknow ots of folks love their Glocks and everyone says they're great guns but they don't feel good in my hand.

MB
Link Posted: 8/20/2006 6:56:02 PM EDT
[#28]
my first handgun was a browning hipower. it is the only gun i've NEVER had a malfunction in. and i've shot some crap ammo through it, including crappy hollowpoints.

more accurate than every other handgun in 9mm i've shot.

it isn't the flavor of the day, as some have stated, that you don't hear of it more often. i think also because it isn't as light as a glock/XD/etc, most would rather carry a 1911 for the weight (even if the hipower has more capacity, and weighs less).

either way, i love mine. but don't use it for carry. i try to baby it, as it was my first handgun and all (oh, and a present from my wife ...)
Link Posted: 8/21/2006 5:37:59 PM EDT
[#29]

It's not "tactical" or used by some SWAT team or whatever else sells guns these day. If some Seal,reacon,delta force sniper endorsed it and said it's what in .


I thought the Brits used it for something?

SAS maybe?


Just wish I could get higher-cap mags for it.


I was going to say you can get ~30 round mags for it, but then I saw the state you live in.

Nothing over 10 rounds in NY?
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 6:10:01 AM EDT
[#30]
I'm thinking that I need one, but I don't really know where to turn to learn all about them first.

Never even touched one.
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 10:45:00 AM EDT
[#31]
My MKII Browning Hi-Power



I'm not sure why they're not discussed more. I suppose it has to do with us being on this side of the "pond", and our special forces or elite police units not using it. Many people are caught up in the plastic pistol fad also, which of course the BHP is the antithesis of.

My personal opinion is that the BHP is the greatest auto pistol design made. It has arguably the best grip angle and most ergonomic grip going, is extremely reliable (more so than my Glock), and displays excellent accuracy. If you like admiring your guns (obviously beyond shooting them) the BHP is also one of the most pleasing to the eye, with graceful lines and old world workmanship.

There are other great pistols out there also. I like the Beretta, 1911 and the CZ, but the Browning is tops in my book.
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 1:00:28 PM EDT
[#32]
I owned a BHP 9mm practical just until recently, and I loved the thing. Points better than anything, was stone reliable, and just a pleasure to shoot. I just couldnt pass up the amount of money I was offered. I will own another. Hopefully a Novak BHP .40 to 9mm conversion. I heard they shoot wonderfully.
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 1:11:36 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
I'm thinking that I need one, but I don't really know where to turn to learn all about them first.




HERE
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 1:28:04 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Doesn't SAS use the hipower still?  I could've swore I seen picture in SOF with british guy with a Hipower sticking out of his thigh rig.  

The thing that makes me a little nervous about them is how it only has the one safety in comparison to the 2 on a  1911.  
  But at least it has one!!!!!!!!! (that was for the glock guy)  And don't give me that safe action crap.  I know glocks are good guns, but dang it if I wouldn't be nervous holstering one.  I've never done it and I may never do it.  However, they do shoot well and have the respect of many.


British SBS (Special Boat Service) used them through the '80's (they may still use them). Had an instructor that was SBS and they loved the HP's.

HP's are still used quite a bit in Israel, both police and military. Have a relative who carried HP (although she called it an FN since that's who made it) and Uzi in the military (late '90's) and an HP and M1 Carbine in the Police service ('02 -'05).

Link Posted: 8/23/2006 5:09:12 AM EDT
[#35]
I had seen them and read about them here and there for years but they never really interested me much. That was until I went shooting with a guy from work who has one and I experienced first hand how well they work. Luckily for me, this was at the same time CDNN was selling classic FN's MKIII for $400 so I bought one. I say luckily because as much as I like the pistol it, I don't like them enough to pay the $650-$700 that I see basic Browning versions selling for and I have no interest in a CD or FM knock off.

I do think its popularity suffers from being an older design that's not as "sexy" to a lot people as something like a Sig or HK is. The 1911 is an old design too but with all of the companies that making them as well as different parts and accessories for them, it keep them kind of up-to-date and popular. The 1911 also gains a lot of notoriety from being the main US service pistol for as long as it was as well as being a 45ACP which is a lot of people's preference.

I like my HP a lot and I'm pretty sure it's one of my guns that I'll never get rid of. I would like to send it out someday to a good 'smith for some enhancements (trigger work, better safety, sights). All that said, for "serious" use, I still prefer my Glocks
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 6:27:10 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
I had a nice FN Hi-Power for a while. I spent a good chunk of change having it refinished in a two tone Np3/Rogaurd finish so it wouldn't rust when carried IWB, and replacing the trigger, hammer, sear, and safety with Cylinder & Slide parts to improve ergonomics, and having it tuned up by a gunsmith to make it more reliable. I dropped another $400 on Novak night sights and  Milt Sparks holster, belt, and mag pouch. In the end, I had a nice looking $1800 pistol/carry rig that I didn't like as well as my $300 used GLOCK 19 and $100 Blade-Tech and Wilderness carry rig. It was also larger, held less ammo, was not as reliable, and weighed a pound more than the GLOCK.


I still have the FN HP MkIII SFS.  I like it stock.  works great for me.  Granted, I dare not ccw it in the summer b/c of sweat problem here, but it's the handgun I shoot the best.

That said, I'd prefer G19 for carry, but I won't mind BHP either.
Link Posted: 8/24/2006 4:41:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Very Nice Browning Hi-Power For Sale

As much as I love mine, I just dont shoot it anymore, and need to make room.
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