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Posted: 5/23/2005 2:37:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2005 2:37:26 AM EST by CockedandLocked]
I lucked out on this piece a while back. It's a 1911A1 Military National Match w/ original papers. Notice the price paid on the invoice in the upper right hand corner of the invoice. I think $84 even in 1964 was pretty pricey considering M1 Carbines were being sold in the same time period for under $20.





Link Posted: 5/21/2005 4:18:58 PM EST
YOU ALL SUCK!

Yes I'm jealous
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 1:09:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 1:11:47 PM EST by DK-Prof]
late-war 1945 Remington Rand w. a Colt slide (but of an arsenal bastard child of the army )



Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:19:05 PM EST
Damn good looking .45
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:19:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Your serial number is showing.



What the fuck are you gonna do about it?

Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:20:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:21:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:22:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By Boomer:

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Your serial number is showing.



What the fuck are you gonna do about it?




I've always kinda wondered about the angst over showing SNs. I guess if the gun were registered, somebody could get your RL ID by looking it up, but other than that, I'm a little mystified by the concern.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:22:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 12:24:40 PM EST by TacticalStrat]

Originally Posted By Boomer:


img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/SD70MAC/USSM1911A101.jpg




Very nice!!!!!! She's a beauty!!!!!
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:26:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 12:27:05 PM EST by Boomer]

Originally Posted By TacticalStrat:
Union Switch & Signal? From what I can see, it looks very nice.



Thanks. As far as I can tell, it's 100% original, too.

Your Remington Rand ain't too shabby, either.

Nothing quite like holding such pieces of history in your hand, is there?
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:27:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By Boomer:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/SD70MAC/USSM1911A103.jpg




Boomer, your pictures look professionally done. I can never get gun closeups to turn out very good. Can you give me some tips?
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:38:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By Boomer:

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Your serial number is showing.



What the fuck are you gonna do about it?

img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/SD70MAC/USSM1911A101.jpg



Me? I'm not FUCKING going to do anything at all about it. Why THE FUCK do you ask?

Some FUCKING people don't want to show their private FUCKING information on the FUCKING internet. I was FUCKING pointing out that he was doing just FUCKING that.

Just fucking speaking in the fucking language that seems to be what the fuck you like to fucking refuckingply to other fucking posters.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:51:28 PM EST
Wow, that side saftey looks wierd, I can see how they have improved on the dsign over the years
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:54:15 PM EST
vey nice
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:58:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By TacticalStrat:
Boomer, your pictures look professionally done. I can never get gun closeups to turn out very good. Can you give me some tips?



Those pictures were taken on a table in my basement.

The first two were taken using my Canon G5 camera set on portrait mode, macro on, with the flash turned off, less than a foot from the pistol. I had a couple of shop lights positioned above the subject to provide the lighting and positioned so as to avoid reflection and glare.

The thrid was taken in just potrait mode, flash on, from about 4 feet above the pistol, zoomed in a little. This allowed the flash to provide an even but not overwhelming, harsh light.

All of the pictures were then sharpened up a bit using basic photo editing software (Arcsoft on the laptop, Photoshop Elements on the desktop) on my computers.

Believe me, I'm far from a professional photographer and I think any pro looking at those photos would probably pick them apart. I just do the best I can and experiment until I get something that looks good to me. That's what I love about digital photography, you can practice and experiment without any costs beyond the camera.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:59:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 1:00:21 PM EST by FLAL1A]
I looked again, and Boomer, those are indeed beautiful photos - somewhere between manufacturer's catalogue and art. Very well done.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:59:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 1:02:14 PM EST by TacticalStrat]
While we're at it. I love these old 1911's.

This is an all original Colt made in 1944. The guy I bought it from hated guns and it was the only gun he and his wife had in the house. His wife's grandfather was in WWII and brought it home. When he died he left it to the grandaughter. They put in an ammo can where it sat untouched for 10 years. That's why the rust specs are on one side, the side that laid against the metal can bottom. Otherwise the gun is nearly mint.



Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:01:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Pangea:

Originally Posted By Boomer:

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Your serial number is showing.



What the fuck are you gonna do about it?

img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/SD70MAC/USSM1911A101.jpg



Me? I'm not FUCKING going to do anything at all about it. Why THE FUCK do you ask?

Some FUCKING people don't want to show their private FUCKING information on the FUCKING internet. I was FUCKING pointing out that he was doing just FUCKING that.

Just fucking speaking in the fucking language that seems to be what the fuck you like to fucking refuckingply to other fucking posters.



Guess I'd just prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, assume he is intelligent enough to know what he's taken a picture of, and figure that not everyone is as paranoid as myself.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:09:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By Boomer:

Originally Posted By TacticalStrat:
Boomer, your pictures look professionally done. I can never get gun closeups to turn out very good. Can you give me some tips?



Those pictures were taken on a table in my basement.

The first two were taken using my Canon G5 camera set on portrait mode, macro on, with the flash turned off, less than a foot from the pistol. I had a couple of shop lights positioned above the subject to provide the lighting and positioned so as to avoid reflection and glare.

The thrid was taken in just potrait mode, flash on, from about 4 feet above the pistol, zoomed in a little. This allowed the flash to provide an even but not overwhelming, harsh light.

All of the pictures were then sharpened up a bit using basic photo editing software (Arcsoft on the laptop, Photoshop Elements on the desktop) on my computers.

Believe me, I'm far from a professional photographer and I think any pro looking at those photos would probably pick them apart. I just do the best I can and experiment until I get something that looks good to me. That's what I love about digital photography, you can practice and experiment without any costs beyond the camera.




I have a Canon G3. I just shoot everything in "auto" mode. I'll give protrait mode a try next time. I usually shoot about 50 pics and pick the best one. Even my best is no where near the detail and color richness of yours. Thanks for the tips.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:25:51 PM EST
Those are all beauties!!!

Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:28:28 PM EST
Does that have a US&S slide on it also? Nice, I have a 1945 Ithica still in the box from red river depot, with all the paperwork also, cost of the pistol from DCM to include shipping was the huge sum of $17.50. Got the shipping box, protective wrap, shipping papers, and release papers. I love to see some of the old paperwork that came with them, most were tossed out so thanks for posting. Shot the old gal yet? If you do, let us know how she shoots.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:31:25 PM EST


Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:36:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:39:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 6:00:15 AM EST by TacticalStrat]

Originally Posted By fxntime:
Does that have a US&S slide on it also? Nice, I have a 1945 Ithica still in the box from red river depot, with all the paperwork also, cost of the pistol from DCM to include shipping was the huge sum of $17.50. Got the shipping box, protective wrap, shipping papers, and release papers. I love to see some of the old paperwork that came with them, most were tossed out so thanks for posting. Shot the old gal yet? If you do, let us know how she shoots.




It's a US&S frame w/ a Remington slide. The National Match pistols were built by military armorers. So most were built from parts they had lying around. Most don't have matching frames and slides (current prices reflect this as well). However, they are assembled to the tightest tolerances as each part is hand fitted for accuracy. When I disassemble this gun, I have to knock the slide off the frame with a rubber mallet.
Also, notice the very nice checkering on the grip housing.

I have shot this NM gun quite alot. It's very accurate and will feed any ammo without a hitch. It will even feed all 7 empty cases 100% from a mag full of empty cases.


SA National Match Pistol Information
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:41:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By lawdog:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_034.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_033.jpg




Oh my!!! That's incredible. It looks like something Colt would build for the President of the US. What's the history on that piece?
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:45:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By lawdog:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_034.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_033.jpg


BLING BLING BLING!!!! We have a winner!!!!!.
Now my "funnist 1911 is a Colt Mark III 38 special, nothing like loading up the pussycat and having the guy warn me that it's the wrong ammo.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:49:35 PM EST
I've got a Colt 1911 US Army made in 1916 that still shoots FMJ like a champ.

It was picked up when the Army was getting ready to adopt the 9mm Parabellum.

Sorry no pictures. I don't have a digital camera.

CRC
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:51:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By TacticalStrat:

Originally Posted By fxntime:
Does that have a US&S slide on it also? Nice, I have a 1945 Ithica still in the box from red river depot, with all the paperwork also, cost of the pistol from DCM to include shipping was the huge sum of $17.50. Got the shipping box, protective wrap, shipping papers, and release papers. I love to see some of the old paperwork that came with them, most were tossed out so thanks for posting. Shot the old gal yet? If you do, let us know how she shoots.




It's a US&S frame w/ a Remington slide. The National Match pistols were built by military armorers. So most were built from parts they had lying around. Most don't have matching frames and slides (current prices reflect this as well). However, they are assembled to the tightest tolerances as each part is hand fitted for accuracy. When I disassemble this gun, I have to knock the slide off the frame with a rubber mallet.
Also, notice the very nice checkering on the grip housing.

I have shot this NM gun quite alot. It's very accurate and will feed any ammo without a hitch. It will even feed all 7 empty cases 100% from a mag full of empty cases.


Excellent!!! Have a US&S frame with a rem rand slide myself but nowhere as nice as that fine piece of history you have. Also have 2 1941 GI Colts with matching numbered slides and frames. Still nice and tight, even after all these years, 2 different inspectors stamps tho, one was 42 inspector stamped WB. Love the old GIs. and military pistols.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:54:35 PM EST
I don't have any nice old 1911's, so I'm going to show you mine anyway, sry for the not old part
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 2:34:25 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:08:25 PM EST
I thought you said old 1911's and then you and a bunch of wiseasses tried to palm off a bunch of 1911A1s as old.



technology is wonderful. Just put it on the scanner and scanned it. Yes it really is that color. My Step-Grand faather probably borrowed it when he returned from being in the Occupation forces in Germany after WW1. then when he was at a defense plant in Burbank in WWll had it cadmium plated.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 9:32:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Pangea:

Originally Posted By Boomer:

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Your serial number is showing.



What the fuck are you gonna do about it?

img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/SD70MAC/USSM1911A101.jpg



Me? I'm not FUCKING going to do anything at all about it. Why THE FUCK do you ask?

Some FUCKING people don't want to show their private FUCKING information on the FUCKING internet. I was FUCKING pointing out that he was doing just FUCKING that.

Just fucking speaking in the fucking language that seems to be what the fuck you like to fucking refuckingply to other fucking posters.



- By far the greatest FUCKING response ever!
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 4:16:11 PM EST
1917 vintage commercial Colt. First my Grampa's, then Dad's, now mine. Grampa and Dad were Bullseye shooters. You couldn't count the number of rounds that pistol has had run through it. Grampa swapped out the sights and Dad had the slide reblued. That killed any collector value. No matter, it's worth more than money to me. Every now and again I'll pull it out of the safe and take it to the range. Always brings back good memories...

Link Posted: 5/21/2005 10:19:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By lawdog:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_034.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_033.jpg



wow dude, I'm all for pimping guns, but that is WAY to much
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 10:23:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:09:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By lawdog:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/lawdog530/Picture_034.jpg


I like the grips in that pic. Are they ivory? I saw some similar on ebay once but didn't win the auction.

also, tagged til i get a chance to take pictures of mine :D
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:35:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 5:44:46 AM EST by TacticalStrat]
Here's my mid 60's commercial National Match. The warranty card asks for your income. The highest selection for income level on the warranty card is "over $8000 per year".

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:41:13 AM EST
That is sweet Tach, wish mine had come with the Box also.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:43:56 AM EST
Boomer you Suck!!!!! (I'm jealous)

That is a beautiful US&S

Link Posted: 5/21/2005 8:18:23 PM EST
An Oldie AF AFPG Colt NM 45

Link Posted: 5/21/2005 8:20:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:53:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Boomer:

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Your serial number is showing.



What the fuck are you gonna do about it?

img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/SD70MAC/USSM1911A101.jpg



......YOMAK (You Owe Me A Keyboard) That just cracked me up Boomer!!! LOL
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:42:47 PM EST
I don't want to hijack this thread so all I will say is that the Colt is a genuine 1911 Commercial of the Government Model manufactured in 1919. It has silver inlay and is 100% engraved. The grips are genuine elephant ivory and are carved in a Japanese dragon motif. Naturally, the gun is a collector's item and is for sale if you might be interested in a work of art and piece of American history. E-mail lawdog530@aol.com if you have any further questions about the piece.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:53:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 12:55:44 PM EST by SGB]
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 1:50:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2005 1:51:36 AM EST by Hoppy]

Originally Posted By Boomer:

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Your serial number is showing.



What the fuck are you gonna do about it?





Report it as stolen.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:10:53 PM EST
$511.21 in 2005 dollars.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:13:58 PM EST
sweet

coburn
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:16:18 PM EST
Your serial number is showing.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 2:49:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By tangeant:
An Oldie AF AFPG Colt NM 45

img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/tangeant/100_0876.jpg



That has to be worth a fortune. I had never heard of this variant.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 5:43:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By DaveS:



Link Posted: 5/23/2005 5:49:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
I thought you said old 1911's and then you and a bunch of wiseasses tried to palm off a bunch of 1911A1s as old.








Hey, if it's older than me, it's old!
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