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Posted: 5/30/2017 6:51:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/30/2017 7:18:44 PM EST by kingofnapier]
Wondering if there's any ballistic gel tests on these three.

Diamondback said to only use these three for defense so I have to pick one of these three. I prefer to do so based on tests rather than opinion or anecdotal experience.

Hornaday CD 115 grain
HPR Jacketed Hollow Point
Remington Golden-Saber
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 6:56:18 PM EST
Use for what purpose? And, more specifics on the ammo.
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 7:19:33 PM EST
I did some searching, I guess you have a Diamondback DB9 which is very picky about what ammo to feed. Let me know if I'm wrong.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/09/tim-mcnabb/gun-review-diamonback-db9/

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/diamondback-db9-the-ultimate-concealed-carry-solution/

There are a lot of tests on youtube, I would go there and search for "hornady 115gr gel" for example.

Here is one such test with a short barrel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBPREaj9xF0

Based on the tests there I would probably use 115gr hornady XTP or Hornady critical defense but any of those that cycle where they go at least 12in in gel should be fine.
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 7:25:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By kev10mm:
I did some searching, I guess you have a Diamondback DB9 which is very picky about what ammo to feed. Let me know if I'm wrong.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/09/tim-mcnabb/gun-review-diamonback-db9/

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/diamondback-db9-the-ultimate-concealed-carry-solution/

There are a lot of tests on youtube, I would go there and search for "hornady 115gr gel" for example.

Here is one such test with a short barrel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBPREaj9xF0

Based on the tests there I would probably use 115gr hornady XTP or Hornady critical defense but any of those that cycle where they go at least 12in in gel should be fine.
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DB9 is correct! Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 7:42:29 PM EST
none.  get a different pistol.
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 9:52:48 PM EST
I carry Golden Saber 124+p
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 9:58:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
none.  get a different pistol.
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This

shitcan the diamondback, and buy a quality handgun that will feed more than 3 boxes of ammo

.
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 10:10:38 PM EST
HST.

/thread.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 10:00:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/31/2017 10:01:25 AM EST by OverScoped]
Think of it this way you're trapped in a house the MZB's are outside it's you and your buddy versus them you both have nine millimeters you only have one Magazine worth of ammo but he has a bandolier worth. Problem is it's not in your list... I guess you just have to give up.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 10:08:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/31/2017 10:10:48 AM EST by frankjt]
I'm really not trying to be a jerk, but I would not use a handgun for self defense that only works with three types of ammo. Holy crap!

I would recommend Federal HST or Winchester Rangers.

Edit: sorry, out of your choices I guess hornady critical defense, but I don't like the tipped bullets.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 6:15:23 PM EST
The golden saber bonded ammo is very good. I would carry without hesitation
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:19:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/31/2017 8:21:48 PM EST by psegnatelli]
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
The golden saber bonded ammo is very good. I would carry without hesitation
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That's what I carry in my cm9. 147gr. Gun shoots them great.

I choose reliability first and foremost. I don't care if it's ball or jhp. Obviously jhp are preferred. But if the gun only feeds ball , and that gun is my only option. Well that's that.


Lucky gunner test
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 11:31:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/1/2017 12:57:16 AM EST by kev10mm]
Also ... I also made a comment like some of the others. Based on the issues mentioned in other online reviews (you have to hold it very carefully to make sure it cycles) I would not want to use this gun for self-defense. Just my 2 cents if I had to have it I would use 115gr XTP and hope it worked.

It looks cool I'd sure love to plink with one.
Link Posted: 6/1/2017 3:26:08 AM EST
Golden saber I found pretty good. HST is my favorite, 124 +p for the VP9, sometimes 147 +p, 150 or 147 grain for P30sk. Haven't experimented to see what my new shield likes best yet. Close second to HST is Speer gold dot, Fiocci and Hornandy I would use without worry also. (None of this is based on gel testing; feeding reliability, accuracy, and comfort based).
Link Posted: 6/1/2017 3:47:32 AM EST
What's the weight of the Golden Sabers? 115 grain is too light. 124 grain minimum I would say. But I prefer 147 grain. Heavier the better!! Federal HST is my new favorite, Speer Gold Dot second fav. 
Link Posted: 6/4/2017 7:50:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Derek45:


This

shitcan the diamondback, and buy a quality handgun that will feed more than 3 boxes of ammo

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This, exactly this! For my CZ's 9mm's... I use HST's, Gold Dots, and Golden Sabres interchangeably... all in 147grain. I like heavy for caliber loads for their penetration and they always seem to be a bit more accurate than their lighter counterparts in my experience. YMMV...
Link Posted: 6/4/2017 8:02:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/4/2017 8:03:12 AM EST by TheOldRepublic]
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Originally Posted By KILLERB6:
HST.

/thread.
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This. If your pistol can't run it

/shitcan
Link Posted: 6/9/2017 11:49:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By kingofnapier:
Wondering if there's any ballistic gel tests on these three.

Diamondback said to only use these three for defense so I have to pick one of these three. I prefer to do so based on tests rather than opinion or anecdotal experience.

Hornaday CD 115 grain
HPR Jacketed Hollow Point
Remington Golden-Saber
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Golden Saber BONDED if you can find it.
Link Posted: 6/10/2017 8:18:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
none.  get a different pistol.
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Link Posted: 6/21/2017 12:57:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 5:10:24 PM EST
Wouldn't bet my life on a pistol that wouldn't fire whatever I fed it. Lose that piece of garbage and buy and train with something you can depend on.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 6:44:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jmreagan:


This, exactly this! For my CZ's 9mm's... I use HST's, Gold Dots, and Golden Sabres interchangeably... all in 147grain. I like heavy for caliber loads for their penetration and they always seem to be a bit more accurate than their lighter counterparts in my experience. YMMV...
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Hollowpoints parachute to a stop. A 147 isn't going to penetrate further in a hollowpoint like it does in a FMJ. In some cases it penetrates less due to a slightly bigger parachute.
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