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Posted: 7/19/2008 1:00:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 10:05:17 PM EDT by Mike_G]
Sig P239
Springfield XD9sc
HK P2000sk

Which of one (or two ) of these makes the better choice for CCW? Keeping in mind things like ergonomics, capacity, available accessories (holsters), reliability etc.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 1:27:22 PM EDT
glock 26
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 1:30:13 PM EDT
I voted for the Kahr b/c I love my CW9
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 1:50:20 PM EDT
NONE....



You have something against GLOCK ???????or BHP??????
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 2:04:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 2DARK2C:
glock 26


+1 to that. Why? Because I really like mine and I've put it through it's paces - read "abused" and it just won't quit.

-JC
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 2:05:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 2DARK2C:
glock 26


+1

Link Posted: 7/19/2008 2:09:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/19/2008 2:09:47 PM EDT by FrankSymptoms]
Springfield XD9SC --I have an XD45; offered a 9mm in this package, I'd snap it up.

Beretta PX4SC, Walther PPS, Taurus PT-111 --No experience.

Kahr P9 -- I've shot the Kahr, and while it is the most concealable of all of these packages, I simply HATE the trigger!
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 2:17:02 PM EDT
You have to see and handle the PPS to appreciate it.

It makes a G26 feel like the butt end of a 2x4.



Link Posted: 7/19/2008 2:25:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By uxo2:
NONE....



You have something against GLOCK ???????or BHP??????


Some of us don't like Glops. I know it's blasphemy to dislike perfection? Oh well.


I tried the PPS today at the gunstore. The mag release is a deal breaker.

I have two grown-up XD45's so I'd go with the XDSC since I'm familiar with the platform.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 3:01:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 2DARK2C:
glock 26


My daily CCW.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 3:06:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By uxo2:
NONE....



You have something against GLOCK ???????or BHP??????


Don't like 'em, No sir
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 3:07:50 PM EDT
PX4SC is not even around STILL. Cant judge on it untill someone shoots it.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 7:13:52 PM EDT
Glock 26 or M&P9c
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 9:01:22 PM EDT
I have a PPS and carry it or a J-Frame daily. It shoots very well and is slim enough to work as a pocket gun.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 9:49:44 PM EDT
where the hell is the glock?

of your choices, probably the Sig or Beretta off the bat
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 10:14:32 PM EDT
A cz75po1 would be good also.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:37:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:52:23 AM EDT
Kahr P9. I must admit that the Glock has a much better trigger though.

The Kahr has a trigger similar to a J-frame Smith but better sights and reload time.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:54:18 AM EDT
I voted for the XD9SC, it is my daily carry gun, and I love it. Has the same grip angle as my 1911 and seems to point very naturally for me, at least.

I have a little problem with rust on my slide, but the newer guns don't have the finish problem that mine has.


Mike
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:07:27 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 10:39:36 AM EDT
With the exception of the Beretta I've either owned the other guns or had a fair amount of trigger time with them. The only one that even got close to making me think it would be as good a carry gun as my Glock 26 was the Sig, and I'm not a fan of DA/SA guns due to the transition between pulls, and I'm not accurate enough with DAO guns to make one my main carry piece. I like the XD's, but IMO they've got negatives that the Glock doesn't have and are lacking positives that the Glock doesn't. The Walther PPS is for me, too new to trust, Taurii break too easily and the Kahr is DAO. G26 FTW.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 10:44:00 AM EDT
All the guns listed are sub-compacts, not compacts.

3" barrel (or less) = subcompact
4" barrel = compact
5" barrel = full size
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:20:04 PM EDT
I voted Kahr, but if they made a Compact XD 9 (like the compact .45) I'd probably try it out.



XD's feel nice to the grip (at least IMO), even the .45.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:29:22 PM EDT
Glock 19.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:08:04 PM EDT
I have a G19, P225, and P9. The P9 is by far the thinnest and easiest to carry. The G19 is my choice if i got into a fight.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:31:30 PM EDT
I can't imagine carrying anything other than my Kahr at this point. Easy to conceal, ergonomic and I do like the trigger.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:48:14 PM EDT
Walther PPS.

Slim, compact, and well made with a great finish that will last.

Very ergonomic with a great natural point and the grip isn't so small your hand swollows it. Very nice recoil and the muzzle flip isn't that bad at all for a subcompact. Follow-up shots are very easy to do with the Walther PPS.

Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:55:21 PM EDT
Springfield EMP. Because it's a tiny 1911.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:38:17 PM EDT
For concealed carry I would choose the thinnest of those listed, that would be the Kahr.
The most important thing in a carry gun is that you can carry it comfortably, if not, you wont carry it so it is worthless. Triggers, sights, caliber, capacity, grip, etc. mean nothing if you left the gun at home because it was uncomfortable to carry.

I personally carry a Glock 27, simple and reliable, a bit thick but at 12 o'clock in a CTAC I can carry 12+ hours a day during all activities and all modes of dress without discomfort or concern about printing.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:55:56 PM EDT
I'd put a Sig 230/232 on that list, I think it's an improvement over the Walther, IMHO.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 10:34:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 2DARK2C:
glock 26




Thats what I carry daily/nightly
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 10:35:21 PM EDT
Smith and Wesson M&P9c (flame away)
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 3:05:12 AM EDT
Kahr P9
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:16:12 AM EDT
No Glock, HK, Sig, or Colt?


This is a lose, lose situation.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:57:23 AM EDT
What about the Kel-tec PF9, I know it gets a bunch of internet hearsay crap but I have had excellent experiences with mine and have heard the same from the several people I know who carry one?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:58:23 AM EDT
PPS. My daily carry. Thin, good overall size with a 9 or .40 cal option makes it good for me.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:02:34 AM EDT
Springfield XD9sc - I own one and would recommend it. Very reliable pistol and I found the trigger better on the SC than the full sized XD9 I own. Also, plenty of accessories available. Only downside is Springfield is funny about replacement parts. Their customer service is great though.

Beretta Px4 SC - No personal experience

Walther PPS - No personal experience

Taurus PT 111 - A coworker bought one of these and after shooting it I was less than impressed. Reliability was a big as we had a variety of malfunctions even after several hundred rounds. Also I did not like the grip or trigger. YMMV

Kahr P9 - I wanted a Kahr for years and ended up buying a Kel-Tec for a pocket gun. Long story short I finally got to shoot a Kahr (believe it was the little PM9) and while they are very easily concealable the trigger was el crappo and it seemed rather snappy for recoil (maybe because it weighs less). I'm sure its a great pistol but its fairly expensive for what you get and low capacity.

Not that I'm a big Glock fan but they also seem to be very popular and reliable. I just hate their grip angle.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 10:02:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By msz:
No Glock, HK, Sig, or Colt?


This is a lose, lose situation.


If I could edit the poll I would take out the Taurus and Beretta and add the Sig P239 and HKP2000sk
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 8:37:28 AM EDT
No glock 26 option so I choose the XD.

The XD is the only one that can use full size magazines should the need arise and you need/want more firepower for home defense etc.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 6:23:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ag04blast:
What about the Kel-tec PF9, I know it gets a bunch of internet hearsay crap but I have had excellent experiences with mine and have heard the same from the several people I know who carry one?

This is my (almost) daily carry gun. It has the Armalaser unit. Inexpensive, small, lightweight, doesn't print as much as any of the choices listed in the poll. Ideal for CCW in very hot weather. I still like the idea behind the new Springfield EMP, though...
Link Posted: 7/24/2008 3:08:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BallisticTip:
Glock 19.



+1
Link Posted: 7/25/2008 7:52:38 PM EDT
I'd personally go for a glock 26. They just can't be bet for simplicity.
Link Posted: 8/2/2008 10:19:37 AM EDT
Out of the choices given I would get the Springfield XD9SC
Link Posted: 8/2/2008 11:22:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2008 11:22:54 AM EDT by ElIntocable]
I voted XD9SC because that is what I carry. It has been problem free. I keep a 10 rounder in the pistol with a full size 16 rounder for backup. I use a CTAC and I sometimes forget its there. Its very comfortable.

Note:
The XD(s) have the Melonite finish which is the same as Tenifer (carbonitriding). The older ones had issues with rust.
Link Posted: 8/2/2008 12:00:09 PM EDT
Glock 26.

And since you poll doesn't list it, I chose the one that I thought was the worst.

This post is FAIL!
Link Posted: 8/2/2008 3:43:21 PM EDT
I can not find a reason not to carry some form of Glock on a daily basis.
Link Posted: 8/2/2008 11:45:45 PM EDT
I chose the XDSC. I have one and a 9mm Tacitcal. Both guns have been 100% reliable with any ammo.

Don't worry about the finish as the finish that had rust problems were the older ones. Any XD you buy now will have the new finish.
Link Posted: 8/29/2008 3:01:49 PM EDT
Good Choice.

I carry an XD40, and while I love it, it is a bit big to conceal against my small body. So I have been thinking about an XDSC for summer with t-shirts, and carrying my full size in the winter.

StagPower
Link Posted: 8/29/2008 4:09:47 PM EDT
I'd vote for the PM9 but it's not on the list.

The PM9 has become, by far, my favorite all around handgun. Extremely compact for a 6+1 9mm, accurate, fairly easy to shoot, reliable, and durable so far. It comes with an extra 7 round mag (I bought an extra and carry 6+1 in the gun and two spare 7rnd mags in my pocket). It's fun and cheap to shoot and I've grown to really like the trigger. The trigger reminds me of the Glock trigger, it takes some getting used to at first, but after a while it grows on you.
Link Posted: 8/29/2008 4:10:33 PM EDT
None of the above. .45 Colt officers model. I tossed my last 9mm 25 yrs ago.
Link Posted: 8/29/2008 4:24:41 PM EDT
SIG P250SC FTW!
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