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Posted: 12/4/2005 5:29:01 PM EDT
I am looking to get my first Glock, and I am not sure which caliber I want.

I already have Sigs in .40 S&W, but I also have a MAC-11 in 9mm, so I have both calibers on hand.

I am more concerned about ergonomics and accuracy rather than the "stopping power argument" that could go on forever

Thanks!!
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 5:30:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 5:32:35 PM EDT
Both the 40 and 9 are built on the same frame so gripwise they are identical. If you get a glock in 40, you could get an aftermarket 9 mm barrel too. That way you could shoot both from one gun.
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 6:10:46 PM EDT
9mm all the way. If Gaston meant for a Glock to be other than a 9mm, he would have originally designed for something else.
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 6:16:46 PM EDT
9mm all the way. If Gaston meant for a Glock to be other than a 9mm, he would have originally designed for something else.
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 6:27:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MadcapMagician:
.......If Gaston meant for a Glock to be other than a 9mm, he would have originally designed for something else.



Not really, he would have designed it for whatever caliber the Austrian Military was looking for, it just happen to be the 9mm.


As stated, get the 40 and a 9mm converision barrel. Then if you want another caliber, just pick up a 357SIG barrel, 3 calibers 1 Glock.
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 6:28:22 PM EDT
Get a Glock 17
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 6:33:08 PM EDT
Go with .40!!!!!!!! It is the most efficient round, balancing size of the round with mag capacity. 50 gazzillion police departements can't be wrong!
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 7:27:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/4/2005 7:30:34 PM EDT by unclez]
Chevrolet

Edit... or the .40

Your not gonna go wrong either way. Find a range that rents or a buddy/buddies that have some and shoot a few to see what YOU like best.
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 7:32:47 PM EDT
9mm

coburn
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 7:44:01 PM EDT
I've got a Glock 23C with Factory NS on the way if that tells you my opinion. It will be my new carry gun.

Cheers!

Link Posted: 12/4/2005 9:52:37 PM EDT
9 mm is the way to go.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 4:09:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/5/2005 4:15:37 AM EDT by abnk]
See if you can find a range that rents firearms and try them both. You can't go wrong with either.

ETA: Since the ergonomics question was answered (they are the same), that leaves accuracy as your chief concern. I would go with 9mm - given the softer recoil.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 6:15:34 AM EDT
The .40 bites. Pistols should be either 9mm or .45acp. Glocks should be 9mm.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 9:10:22 AM EDT
.40......The Round That Just Refuses to Kill.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 9:29:58 AM EDT
9MM 17, 19, 0r the awesome 26 nice little gun I have a 17 love it...
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 9:39:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By heydrich:
.40......The Round That Just Refuses to Kill.



Wanna explain?
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 11:32:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/5/2005 11:37:09 AM EDT by highdraglowspeed]
What's the intended purpose?

Ergonomics: Glock 40's and 9mm's are virtually identical.
Accuracy: Potato, Pot Tot O

My IDPA Gun is a 17, (no recoil per se) My duty gun is a 22 Essentially the same frame. the 9mm is so darn cheap to shoot. You can buy Blazer for next to nothing, or winchester white box for nothing + $0.01 . I reload on a Dillon 550 and It's dirt cheap as well. You already know that though. I would buy my (first) glock in 9mm.

However if you are looking for strictly a CCW gun. Look at the Glock 30. in 45ACP
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 12:17:16 PM EDT
If you're looking at the 19...the Glock 23 is the same frame. If recoil bothers you...get the 23C. That will take care of it.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 12:21:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 12:26:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Raulin:
The .40 bites...



Now, now... I wouldn't go THAT far. But...


Originally Posted By Raulin:
... Pistols should be either 9mm or .45acp...



+1

After many years and many failed attempts, I recently finished whittling my full-sized semi-autos down to only 9mm and .45ACP & have only made one transgression since...


Originally Posted By Raulin:
... Glocks should be 9mm.



Or .45ACP.

Or .45GAP (the aforementioned one transgression ).



As to the author's original question, 9mm IMHO.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 12:35:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/5/2005 12:42:20 PM EDT
.40!!!!


Hands down!!!
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 12:42:37 PM EDT
Why would you want a pistol in 9mm if you had the option for .40? Bigger bullet, high velocity, flat trajectory--nuff said.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 2:16:44 PM EDT
I'd say get the 9mm for your first Glock.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 2:33:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 3:03:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By highdraglowspeed:
What's the intended purpose?

Ergonomics: Glock 40's and 9mm's are virtually identical.
Accuracy: Potato, Pot Tot O

My IDPA Gun is a 17, (no recoil per se) My duty gun is a 22 Essentially the same frame. the 9mm is so darn cheap to shoot. You can buy Blazer for next to nothing, or winchester white box for nothing + $0.01 . I reload on a Dillon 550 and It's dirt cheap as well. You already know that though. I would buy my (first) glock in 9mm.

However if you are looking for strictly a CCW gun. Look at the Glock 30. in 45ACP





BINGO! If its CCW close range protection. G30.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 3:20:03 PM EDT
G20 in 10mm of course. If you are gonna do it, do it right.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 3:40:14 PM EDT
Now youve done it. Get a 17 and 22 and satisfy both camps.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 3:51:08 PM EDT
If the weapon is going to be used for steel plate shooting then the .40 would be better than the 9mm but for self defense a 9mm will get the job done just fine. I am sure the attacker will change his mind after two to the chest regardless of the caliber.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 5:57:45 PM EDT
.40 = good balance of power and capacity, imho
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 9:12:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2005 9:12:42 AM EDT by Quarterbore]
I am a big fan of the 45 ACP for self preservation so my CCW piece is a Glock 30... just the same, I also have a M11/9 as well as a UZI, M10/9, and AR-15 so 9mm ammo is something I like to stockpile and nothing goes with a stockpile of 9mm ammo better then a Glock 17!

I don't consider the Glock 17 to be a CCW piece but if the SHTF I would have no concerns about having the Glock 17 with a couple 19 and 33-rd mags with me... It is also my Home Defense gun these days as well..

Link Posted: 12/6/2005 9:32:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2005 9:33:17 AM EDT by Szurgot]
Quarterbore, Why is a 9mm good enough for home defense but not CCW?
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 4:18:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 5:12:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2005 5:13:58 PM EDT by Quarterbore]

Originally Posted By Szurgot:
Quarterbore, Why is a 9mm good enough for home defense but not CCW?



The problem is I want a light and my Glock 30 or Glock 21 doesn't have a light rail... I am working to sell my Glock 21 as I want to later upgrade to a 3rd Gen Glock 21 with the light rail so this light as shown above can be mounted to it... Just one step at a time... I would prefer a 45 ACP Glock 21 with the light/laser for home defense over the G-17 but the G-17 with the light/laser is better then a Glock 21 or 30 without the light IMHO!

Now, with that said... I do like the firepower the 9mm brings with a 19-rd mag and with the longer barrel of the full sized G-17 it will get the job done if I need it... I also have the Glock 30, Glock 21, 12-gauge loaded with #4 Buck and an AK with four loaded 30-rd mags in the bedroom too.... I am just still a little paranoid about home invasions anymore..... !!!

I was simply answering the question of 9mm vs 40 and he already has 40 cal Sigs and while I like my Glocks I will never say a Glock is a better made gun then a Sig
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 7:10:01 PM EDT
Thanks for the replies.


I guess I am going to go with the 9mm as I don't have a handgun in that caliber yet.
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 7:19:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2005 7:20:53 PM EDT by GotGuns]
Holy crap, I got this far without a single person saying that he should either get both, be a real man and get a .45acp, or get a 1911....

Get the 9.

Edit: Oops, missed akethan and DoughnutHole
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 7:46:13 PM EDT
I bought a Glock 19 (9mm) back in 1998 and wouldn’t give it up for the world. I love it. About two months ago I purchased a Glock 22 (.40), but have yet to shoot it. Anyone have a model 22?
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 7:51:33 PM EDT
If you are only worried about ergo, then why ask?

I pick 9mm just because there is more ammo out there than 40.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 7:01:28 AM EDT
Ive got a model 17 9mm, but I carry a model 21 .45 for duty

I think the .40 is a better gun than the 9mm, personal opinion though
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 1:59:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Lots of reasons not to go with a .40.......

Most have less velocity than a 9mm
Less capacity than a 9mm
More expensive than a 9mm
More recoil than a 9mm
Slower followup shots than a 9mm


Can't argue with those.


Higher pressure than a 9mm
Less room for bullet setback than a 9mm


Not true. Both the 9mm and the 40 S&W typically have pressure in the 32000 to 34000 psi range. According to Speer reloading manual, 9mm loads that normally produce a chamber pressure of 28000 psi skyrocketed to 62000 psi with just .030" bullet setback.


No more accurate than a 9mm

Irrelevant.


And the list goes on

Maybe.


BTW, I'm partial to the .45ACP and the G30.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 2:53:40 PM EDT
Get BOTH!!!
I have a G23 and a G19. I love both. Although I have to say i'm a little more partial to the
.40hy.gif. That's what most of the guys I shoot with (LE) carry. So I can bum ammohoots
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 5:56:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RomeoBravo:
Get BOTH!!!
i'm a little more partial to the .40hy.gif. That's what most of the guys I shoot with (LE) carry. So I can bum ammohoots



Hear, hear!

I have a relative in the Border Patrol, and they give these guys tons of practice ammo. They're currently using Beretta's in .40 - double action only! Though I heard they would soon be replaced by H&K pistols.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 3:32:16 AM EDT
IMHO stick with military calibers. 9mm and .45ACP have been around about a 100 years and because they are military calibers there is lots and lots of surplus. My two carry guns are G19 & G30
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 8:32:10 PM EDT
Not 40 or 9mm 5.7mm X 28mm.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 6:57:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rotorblade:
Not 40 or 9mm 5.7mm X 28mm.



He's not going squirrel hunting.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 8:10:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2005 8:11:44 PM EDT by bottomtime]
I carry a G22 for my primary and a G23 for my back-up. Most of the officers here at LVPD carry the .40 and some the 45. I don't know of any that carry the 9mm. Maybe off duty?? But I live in Sin City .
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 8:24:04 PM EDT
9
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 12:14:13 PM EDT
9,

9mm,

9x19,

9mm Luger,

9mm Parabellum,

Itty bitty 9 milly,

Nine is fine,

Just make mine a nine. . . . . . . . . . please. (YMMV however)

(in the background: "foh tey, why wont you just diiiiiiee !!" )
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 12:24:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maschinengewehr34:
I bought a Glock 19 (9mm) back in 1998 and wouldn’t give it up for the world. I love it. About two months ago I purchased a Glock 22 (.40), but have yet to shoot it. Anyone have a model 22?

I have a G22. These whiny people talking about recoil are doing something wrong, Then again I'm big and strong as hell. To me a .40 has no recoil. I LOVE my Glock22. I'm halfway to new barrel time and have yet to have one malfunction out of it. Pay attention. 25,000 rounds, MAYBE 7 or 8 cleanings and ZERO malfunctions. Feels great in my hand, points great, highly accurate, and as I've said before, a .40 cal hole is bigger than a .38 cal hole. Not by much, but how many times have you heard "1 millimeter to the right and you'd be dead." I want that covered damnit. .40 is a good balance of capacity and power and recoil. A .45 does recoil enough to me to make me slower.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 12:34:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARmory04:
9,
9mm,
9x19,
9mm Luger,
9mm Parabellum,
Itty bitty 9 milly,
Nine is fine,
Just make mine a nine. . . . . . . . . . please. (YMMV however)



You forgot 9mm NATO.
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