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Posted: 6/14/2009 1:38:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 1:38:59 PM EST by Mikhail_86]
Bought a bag of mixed 9mm of of a lady recently for $10. Mixed in was 60 rounds of this stuff. The brass cased has a headstamp of "WCC +P+ 99" and the nickle cased is"WIN 9mm LUGER" and has red primer sealant.

It looks a lot like my Ranger T series 45 +P I carry in my 1911, except its coated black (lubolox?). Is this merely Winchester SXT or is some of it the infamous Black Talons?

Picture of headstamps

Next to Winchester Ranger T series

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 2:02:28 PM EST
It is the 127gr Ranger SXT +P+. Winchester started fazing the T-Series in as a replacement for the Ranger SXT back in 1998. 1999 was the last time any Ranger SXT was made.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 8:45:14 AM EST
Looks just like some of the Black Talons I have. Store bought stuff came in nickle cases and the LEO only stuff came with brass cases.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:50:22 PM EST
I read somewhere, that the brass cased Talons are reloads and not factory.

Once again, i am not sure just read about it.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:06:11 PM EST
The nickel plated are going to be commercial Black Talons with the 147gr bullet. The brass cased are LEO Talon ammo that was sold to Police agencies. The +P+ means that it is almost certainly the 127gr bullet. I am unaware of any LEO Talons loaded to +P+ in any other bullet weight.
The Ranger Talons nowadays have nickel casings and non-blackened bullets, just like your .45+P. I am not sure when the transition took place though. Back around 99-2000 I saw various calibers of LEO Talons that were black bullet/brass cased just like yours. But, I haven't seen any for a long time now.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 6:12:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By hotpig:
It is the 127gr Ranger SXT +P+.

Very good load IMO. Defeats some level IIA body armor too.
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