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Posted: 10/10/2004 1:20:43 PM EDT
Any good?


Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:28:01 PM EDT
Are you asking about the new Ruger auto??

Up until it, I have had no use for Ruger autos.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:40:42 PM EDT
Cheap...decent quality...mostly reliable...feels like a 2x4 and points like a quart milk bottle. The new one uses a magazine safety...in 2004! I wouldn't buy one on a bet, but that's just me. Turned down one recently for less than $350 new.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:41:15 PM EDT
Any of them currently for sale.


Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:42:40 PM EDT
Are they a lot heavier than a Colt 1911A1 military pistol?

That is the only 45 I've shot.

Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:50:46 PM EDT
I had a P90DC, and sold it within a year to buy a Kimber. I have never looked back. It was my first pistol and I didn't realize what I was buying...

Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:51:55 PM EDT
Ruger revolvers good accurate, Ruger autos P.O.S.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:55:37 PM EDT
Most anything Ruger Sucks I like there 22 auto loaders but almost all rugers have horrible triggers at least
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 1:57:12 PM EDT
Okay but what is this about a new Ruger auto?


Link Posted: 10/10/2004 3:22:46 PM EDT
I own quick a few pistols including a bunch of 1911s, glocks and others. I recently bought a used P97
DC which is a plastic lower stainless upper 45. I do not like double action autos but I couldn't pass on the price. I took it out with some of my other 45 to try. I only intended to shoot it a bit and then shoot my other pistols. I ended up shooting almost 500 rounds through it. It is about the size of a Commander and it very comfortable to shoot. Very good quality and accurate. I was very pleasently surprized.

The 345 that ruger recently introduced has a few differences from the P97 but reportably is just as good.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 4:10:33 PM EDT
Ruger Autos are for the most part very reliable. Their accuracy is not as good as some autos, but they are reliable. The P series was torture tested rather thoroughly by Ruger, it was originally for the US Army handgun competition back in the late 80's, but Ruger did not get it done in time.

Their tests included cutting off half of the slide, and plugging the barrel, and firing live ammo to see what would happen. The result was the extractor bent out. No huge KB like you see in some of the other pistols *cough Glock cough*

They may be ugly, but they are cheap, and reliable. If you only have that much money, and you don't want a used, better quality pistol, you will be ok with a Ruger.

My Ruger is built like a tank, but has never failed.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 5:40:21 PM EDT
Ruger auto pistols suck I had one a years ago, it was a stainless steel P89 (I think). The damn thing could't hot anything. "If you were shootin for shit you would'nt get a whiff" To top it all off it jammed using just about any kind of ammo. POS!
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 5:42:21 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 5:44:06 PM EDT
What is the Ruger 345?

I own a Ruger bolt action rifle and it's great but I don't own a handgun.

Thanks for the information guys.

Link Posted: 10/10/2004 6:08:52 PM EDT
Okay I found this on the Ruger 345:


I'll have to handle one to rule it in or out.

Link Posted: 10/10/2004 9:13:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2004 9:13:36 PM EDT by swingset]
Damn, feel all the Ruger hate in here!

I have a P89 and a P90, both of which are not the sleekest or smallest designs on the market. Put some Pachmyr wraparounds on them tho, and it really improves their ergos. Anyway, both have been completely, utterly, totally reliable and perfect for over 10 years and many thousands of rounds. Never a failure of any kind, none.

The P90 is actually very accurate. It will hang with my P220 and Sprinfield 1911, and in fact I used it for a number of matches in IDPA and did quite well. Never found myself wanting for more pistol. The P89 is not quite as good, but certainly adequate.

Now, contrast that with my 2 Kimbers. The Target has been to Kimber 2x for problems, first for a faulty slide then for finish problems. The Rimfire Target had to go back 4 times before a total gun replacement. Both are ammo finicky and tho accurate, are not trustworthy enough to ever rely on.

Total cost of 2 Rugers: $675

Total cost of 2 Kimbers: $1490

You do the math.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:18:49 AM EDT
Thanks Swingset.

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:59:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:04:23 AM EDT
They're built like tanks ... personally, I wouldn't have one.

Crappy triggers, too bulky.

I like the 1911 .45

The SIG P220, if you're more a double action type of person.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 8:03:25 AM EDT
Theyre cheap and they work. Ive shot P89's, P90's, and P94's, all work as they should although there is nothing special about them other than a cheaper price than most imports.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 8:11:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Ultra reliable, notably accurate with the ergonomics and proportions of a hair dryer.

+1 Couldnt have said it better
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 10:32:53 AM EDT
hit or miss. some are real junk. had a buddy with a p95(?) that neither he, nor ruger could get to work. triggers universally suck.

imho mom's hairdryer looks much cooler than ruger's p series
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:11:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Ultra reliable, notably accurate with the ergonomics and proportions of a hair dryer.

Well put.

ALot of the so-called "Ruger hate" is due in part to Bill Ruger's stance on the 10 Round Mag fiasco.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:15:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Ultra reliable, notably accurate with the ergonomics and proportions of a hair dryer.

Well put.

ALot of the so-called "Ruger hate" is due in part to Bill Ruger's stance on the 10 Round Mag fiasco.

Good call, both of you. I find myself more and more defending Ruger and their great quality firearms. I just two days ago put a Hogue Handall wrap around on my P95, and absolutely love it. I'm gonna get a P97 soon, and would get a .40 caliber Ruger handgun if the capacity was more than 11.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:22:04 PM EDT
I'm guessing the "bulk" of the gun is designed to fill the void left by lack of pride of ownership?
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:11:36 PM EDT
I shot a buddy's P-90 not too long ago. Damn it is an UGLY gun with a long trigger, but I was putting every round into a hole like I had been shooting it for years. The thing was dead reliable and shockingly accurate. It has caused me to take another look a Ruger auto-pistols.

One of those greater than the sum of it's parts (or price) type things I guess.

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:40:16 PM EDT
I know they're ugly but I don't care.

Guns are for using, not looking at.

Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:43:46 PM EDT
My Ruger P94 has decent gouping with FMJ but CNL sucks
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:53:48 PM EDT
I love my P97. 1000 rounds down the tube, zero failures. I would carry it CCW, but its too big, and doesnt hold enough rounds.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:45:04 PM EDT
8 rounds of 45 ACP is plenty for me.

Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:11:01 PM EDT
I shot a P89 once, years ago...decided to hold off on further investigation of ruger's centerfire semi-aumtomatic handun line until someone developed a hydraulic assist for the trigger.

I do remember hitting the borad side of the barn 3 or 4 out of 10 shots, though.........
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:14:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
8 rounds of 45 ACP is plenty for me.


I meant that that pistol is too large for only 8rds. Either it needs to be slimmer, or just carry more. I still love it, tho.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:15:10 PM EDT
Rugers might not look great, but they are more than accurate enough. I'm not good enough at shooting pistols to worry about slight advantages in accuracy. All of the rugers I've shot (3 pistols, 1 rifle) are extremely reliable.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:28:08 PM EDT
The new Ruger 45 is supposed to be much slimmer than the 97 from what I found.

Link Posted: 10/12/2004 2:50:58 PM EDT
I can get every ruger semi auto pistol NIB for under $325, at the local pawn shop at that. I may pick up the new .45 just because it is priced so low.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 2:59:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:
Ruger revolvers good accurate, Ruger autos P.O.S.

It's weird how many times I hear something idiotic on here like the above statement. They've probably never even shot one, but they're the first to say "THEY SUCK" but can't begin to say why. I have a stainless P94 .40 and I wouldn't trade it for anything. This gun has never malfunctioned since I bought it 6 years ago, whether it was Cor-Bons or cheap shit, this thing shoots everything without complaint.

This gun flatout works, and that takes priority over looks, or whatever. I actually think the P94 series looks good, better than the 85,89,90.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 9:47:23 AM EDT
I had a P90...I really liked it, but it was pretty big, and I have small hands...so I finally decided to sell it, but not for any reliability issues. Mine shot a touch left also, but I attributed that to not being able to get as good a grip on it.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 9:55:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 10:02:21 AM EDT by HardShell]

Originally Posted By DarkKnight:
... *cough Glock cough* ...

You really ought to do something about that nasty cough...

On topic: I have fired my brother-in-law's P90 many times over the years & I have to agree with Lumpy's assessment above. (But it has served him well for years, without problems.)

The new 345, however, really interests me. I handled one as soon as they came out (haven't had a chance to shoot one yet) and it felt VERY comfortable. IIRC, a couple of folks here on the board already have them & are well-pleased with them so far.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 7:46:30 PM EDT
ergonomic they are not... but indeed they are built like tanks... reliable and solid..... and ugly.

But hey... it goes bang when you want it to.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:00:06 AM EDT
If you are using it for defense, the BG will probably be about 5 yards away give or take?

My Ruger P89 series has never failed me, holds 16 rounds of .9mm, currently I have talons in there.

If you want ultiamte reliability out of the box, I'd go for a Ruger.

I have made mistakes in my life, so had Bill R. I don't care about his politics nor anything else except he made a damn reliable handgun.

All theses Bill Bashers are probably the same folks that have Russian and Chinese SKS's and AK's as well as the Lugers et al.... Hippocrates!

Link Posted: 10/28/2004 6:02:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gilfrd:
...All theses Bill Bashers are probably the same folks that have Russian and Chinese SKS's and AK's as well as the Lugers et al.... Hippocrates!


Link Posted: 10/28/2004 6:08:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2004 6:08:45 PM EDT by triburst1]
They are unrefined, the ergonomics suck, and they are not very accurate, but they are reliable and cheap.
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