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Posted: 5/11/2004 8:49:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 8:55:42 AM EST by eno45]
I have two Glock 23's. Long ago when I first purchased the first one a buddy recommended the Gold Dot 180gr. So I used that for a while. Then I read some ammo review and decided to switch to the 155gr HydraShok. Now I don't really concern myself all to much with the ammo, more if it works in my gun(everything seems to work in these guns). I am about ready to buy a good 500-1000rds of ammo of the stuff I plan to carry & practice with and want to get some opinions and or reasons why you pick "X" ammo over "Y" ammo.
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 8:19:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/12/2004 8:19:47 AM EST by I-M-A-WMD]
I personally stick to Hydra-Shok 165 grains in my 40. (Glock 22) I like the weight/velocity trade off. Also, I always bought 165 grain PMC FMJs for practice so I figured to stick with the same bullet weight. (Which would be OK except the load doesn't necessarily equate eachother as the Hydra-Shoks feel a lot more tame compared to the PMCs)

Having granted grace to several deer and an elk, an injured angus bull, a charging Rotweiler, a sick Rotweiler, skunks, coons, rattle snake, prairie dogs, etc. etc. the round has proven to me to be effective, reliable, and equally important- ACCURATE. YMMV.

Sly
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 9:31:40 AM EST
I've only fired two different loads of defense HP in .40cal. That would be Remmington Golden Sabre and Speer Gold Dot. Of the two I'd definately choose Gold Dot because in two different Glocks( models 22 and 27) the Golden Sabre had 5 stoppages(total between the 2 pistols) whereas the Gold Dot had none.

I was not impressed at all with Remmington's quality control...While in the police academy the instructors emptied the boxes of Rem Golden Sabre into a large box and the class had to load our mags from the pile of ammo. During the loading we found 3 rounds that had offset primers and there was 1 round that had no powder charge at all!! 4 rounds in a case of 500 that were defective is just piss poor QC IMO!! Damn shame that the county I worked for made us carry that round because it was $4 cheaper by the case than Gold Dot!!
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 2:29:55 PM EST
I carry gold dots in my 27 b/c in tests the dots tend to mushroom more than federals.
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 3:07:07 PM EST
I definitely stick with the Gold Dots. I do jump between the 155 and 165 ammo though. I started with the one 155s but decided to go with a little more weight. The Gold Dots have been reliable and accurate through my G22 and G27.
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 3:19:36 PM EST
Gold Dot 165's in my 27 and Cor-Bon 135's in my 35.

155gr Silver Tips are my "old reliable" and work great in both pistols.
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 6:38:18 PM EST
Gold Dot...No jacket to seperate.
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 9:27:52 PM EST
Gold Dots...

pick your flavor, put 'em in the right place and they will do the job.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 3:38:18 AM EST
Is Cor-bon totally out of the question?
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 7:05:56 AM EST
Not for me they're not! I push the 135's ~1400fps out of my 35. Smokin'!
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 12:43:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By Hal9k:
Not for me they're not! I push the 135's ~1400fps out of my 35. Smokin'!



Good choice.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 6:51:02 PM EST
So is the Gold Dot at ammoman.com a good deal? Is that first quality ammo? A stock ? I am going to buy a bunch and gold dot is darn cheap. Whats that no jacket to seperate mean?
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 8:46:32 PM EST
The jacket of the bullet is bonded to the led bullet. It is almost like plateing the bullet. The bullet and the jacket do not separate on contact or during penetration, it also helps with controld expansion. Check out speer-ammo.com.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 1:31:20 PM EST
I run 155gr HydraShok in my 22 and 23.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 7:47:59 PM EST
The websight is speer-bullets.com not speer-ammo.com. Sorry
Link Posted: 5/16/2004 11:57:51 AM EST
1000rds of Speer Gold Dot 180gr 40S&W ordered. Thanks for your opinions, the tests do show that it mushrooms very well and since I know it feeds fine in my Glocks, I will use this 1000rds for the practice ammo and will go pick up some retail box Gold Dot 180gr to load in my carry mags.
Link Posted: 5/16/2004 12:58:14 PM EST
Cor-Bon 135gr.....Glock 23

Winchester SXT 180gr.....Glock 27

I've got flamed pretty bad in the past about the Cor-Bon, who cares, bet the bad guy don't like it either!

teamroper2004
Link Posted: 5/16/2004 2:02:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By teamroper2004:
I've got flamed pretty bad in the past about the Cor-Bon,


Why were you flamed? I know they had some QA/QC issues (almost 10 years ago) and there was some counterfeit Cor-Bon circulating for a while, but everythings been great for a long time now.

With that particular 135gr load (my personal favorite), we're talking .357 Magunum terminal ballistics. Damn right the bad guy won't like it!
Link Posted: 5/16/2004 2:20:15 PM EST
I have corbon 165's in my G27 and G22.

But I've noticed the jacket sheds pretty consistantly in just a water jug. I'm going to switch to Gold Dots a soon as I get around to it.
Link Posted: 5/16/2004 5:31:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By Hal9k:

Originally Posted By teamroper2004:
I've got flamed pretty bad in the past about the Cor-Bon,


Why were you flamed? I know they had some QA/QC issues (almost 10 years ago) and there was some counterfeit Cor-Bon circulating for a while, but everythings been great for a long time now.

With that particular 135gr load (my personal favorite), we're talking .357 Magunum terminal ballistics. Damn right the bad guy won't like it!



I was told there's newer, better ammo out there nowadays!

It probably had more to do with the fact I have some Olys, C-More sights, Glock C guns & customized Glocks! Probably not, but you never know.

I'll still use Cor-Bon and the rest of my gear w/o any shame or fear!

teamroper2004
Link Posted: 5/25/2004 3:33:06 AM EST
Remington Golden Sabers.
Link Posted: 5/25/2004 8:47:18 PM EST
Federal 165 gr EFMJ
Link Posted: 6/1/2004 9:35:11 AM EST
Little late but a +1 on the Speer Gold-Dots... love them...
Link Posted: 6/4/2004 3:12:23 PM EST
180grain Winchester Ranger T....because the Leos use them. They have to be good.hug.gif
Link Posted: 6/6/2004 9:03:48 AM EST
I shoot the Cor-Bon 135's out of both my 23 and 27, never had any issues. The trade of in weight/vel is one consideration. Box says 1300FPS. It's what I always used, never really tried any other brand. When I used to carry a Colt, I took out about 10 different brands and did expansion checks on them all. The old Black Talon was the most damaging, but the Cor-Bon in .45 was quite impressive to, so when I transfered to .40 I stuck with the Cor-Bon.
Link Posted: 6/16/2004 3:58:53 AM EST
At work and at home I use Speer GDHP 165gr rounds. At work we carry the G22 and out of work I carry a G23. I like the Cor Bon and Triton 135gr jhp rounds too. JMTCW....Trapfan
Link Posted: 7/15/2004 8:04:56 PM EST
155 GRAIN SLIVER TIP FRIST TWO ROUNDS AFTER THAT 155 GOLD DOTS IN MY 27
Link Posted: 7/15/2004 10:31:23 PM EST
165gr Speer Gold Dots

Link Posted: 7/16/2004 10:14:32 AM EST
180gr Ranger T ammo here and some 180gr Black Talon I have. The Ranger T is the same as the Black Talon just not black coated anymore.
Link Posted: 7/23/2004 9:57:26 AM EST
My Dept. issue ammo is either 155grn Gold Dot or 155grn HS.

P3
Link Posted: 7/28/2004 6:17:59 PM EST
Black Talons... yup- need to shoot 'em up and get more...

-Roth
Link Posted: 7/31/2004 12:00:59 PM EST
Speer Gold Dots 180gr

Link Posted: 8/1/2004 10:27:31 AM EST
135 gr corbon saved my buddy's life. i got second hand from the guy who did the autopsy, that my friend's double tap did more internal damage than any other handgun wound he'd ever seen. dropped a hopped up perp before he hit the ground.
Link Posted: 8/2/2004 6:09:28 PM EST
Glad to hear he came out on top of that situation. In a hyphenated word, "Fuckin'-A!"

Out of curiosity, was he carrying a Glock 22?
Link Posted: 8/4/2004 6:51:08 AM EST
g22 all right. after the spray. after the asp hits to the skull from a 500lb+ bench presser. last i heard he was thinking of getting a corbon tattoo.
Link Posted: 8/4/2004 11:18:20 AM EST
5 mags with Hydra-Shock 4 mags with 180 gr. FMJ
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:33:09 PM EST
Speer Gold dot 180Gn. best balance of controllability and performance for me.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:21:11 PM EST
Gold Dot in the G35
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 12:20:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 5:29:33 PM EST
CorBon Pow'R'ball in my 23.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 5:31:04 PM EST
I swtched to Corbon in my G35 better accuracy and knock down energy
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 11:39:58 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:10:45 PM EST
I use Hornady 180gr. XTP in my G22.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 4:34:23 AM EST
Gold dots, and Rangers.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 1:59:14 AM EST
Ranger-T for me.
Interesting thing I heard about ammo the other day. Heard it from a source I consider to be reliable, though I can not say that this is 100%.
What I heard is that the 50 round boxes that are typically sold to LEO/LEA have a much stricter QC than the 20/25 round consumer boxes. Specifically I heard that the 20/25 round boxes can have upto a 5% failure rate in the lot and still be green lighted where as the 50 round boxes have to have no misfires in the lot. Don't know for sure, but makes it easier to spend a little extra on the Ranger T's.
Chris
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 2:19:21 AM EST
Cor-Bon 135's in my G27.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:42:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 1:43:57 PM EST by russr]
1st 2=.40 IQ Aguila 95g 1500 fps

next 2=corbon 135

rest=corbon 140 gr DPX "barns Xbullets"
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 9:29:17 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:37:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By russr:
1st 2=.40 IQ Aguila 95g 1500 fps



I've never seen those tested. Would they penetrate so much as a heavy sweater?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:39:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:11:02 AM EST
Gold Dot, Golden Saber or Ranger in 180gr JHP, in that order.
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